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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In Montgomery County no because MCCC is frankly really bad. NOVA is well respected. California has community colleges that are better than many regional universities.

The place where DE might help is if the target is UMD. If this is the case then starting to work on a transfer path into your major is a good strategy.

It is so frustrating when people who obviously know nothing about DE spout out this kind of stuff. Personally I don’t care if people do DE or not but they should at least have access to accurate information to make their decisions.

Montgomery College is ranked one of the top community colleges in the country. Also, there is no DE transfer pathway to UMD. DE students must apply as freshman and get no transfer advantage.

MTAP is a transfer pathway program into UMD. Sounds like you are the one who is ill informed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Montgomery County no because MCCC is frankly really bad. NOVA is well respected. California has community colleges that are better than many regional universities.

The place where DE might help is if the target is UMD. If this is the case then starting to work on a transfer path into your major is a good strategy.

It is so frustrating when people who obviously know nothing about DE spout out this kind of stuff. Personally I don’t care if people do DE or not but they should at least have access to accurate information to make their decisions.

Montgomery College is ranked one of the top community colleges in the country. Also, there is no DE transfer pathway to UMD. DE students must apply as freshman and get no transfer advantage.

MTAP is a transfer pathway program into UMD. Sounds like you are the one who is ill informed.

DE students cannot transfer. They can only apply as first year students. MTAP is a transfer program.

This is the specific language from the UMD prospective student page on their own website:
If you are a high school graduate who, at the time of applying, have completed at least 12 semester or 18 quarter hours after high school graduation at a regionally accredited college or university, then you are considered a transfer applicant.


Transfer students have to have completed their course work AFTER high school graduation. A dual enrolled student is by definition earning their college credits BEFORE high school graduation, so they apply as a first year student.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In Montgomery County no because MCCC is frankly really bad. NOVA is well respected. California has community colleges that are better than many regional universities.

The place where DE might help is if the target is UMD. If this is the case then starting to work on a transfer path into your major is a good strategy.

Ignoramus, MC is among the best community colleges in the country, and MD is ranked #1 as a whole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Montgomery County no because MCCC is frankly really bad. NOVA is well respected. California has community colleges that are better than many regional universities.

The place where DE might help is if the target is UMD. If this is the case then starting to work on a transfer path into your major is a good strategy.

It is so frustrating when people who obviously know nothing about DE spout out this kind of stuff. Personally I don’t care if people do DE or not but they should at least have access to accurate information to make their decisions.

Montgomery College is ranked one of the top community colleges in the country. Also, there is no DE transfer pathway to UMD. DE students must apply as freshman and get no transfer advantage.

MTAP is a transfer pathway program into UMD. Sounds like you are the one who is ill informed.

DE students cannot transfer. They can only apply as first year students. MTAP is a transfer program.

This is the specific language from the UMD prospective student page on their own website:
If you are a high school graduate who, at the time of applying, have completed at least 12 semester or 18 quarter hours after high school graduation at a regionally accredited college or university, then you are considered a transfer applicant.


Transfer students have to have completed their course work AFTER high school graduation. A dual enrolled student is by definition earning their college credits BEFORE high school graduation, so they apply as a first year student.

If they take a semester+ break after graduating high school, they count as a transfer I believe

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Montgomery County no because MCCC is frankly really bad. NOVA is well respected. California has community colleges that are better than many regional universities.

The place where DE might help is if the target is UMD. If this is the case then starting to work on a transfer path into your major is a good strategy.

It is so frustrating when people who obviously know nothing about DE spout out this kind of stuff. Personally I don’t care if people do DE or not but they should at least have access to accurate information to make their decisions.

Montgomery College is ranked one of the top community colleges in the country. Also, there is no DE transfer pathway to UMD. DE students must apply as freshman and get no transfer advantage.

MTAP is a transfer pathway program into UMD. Sounds like you are the one who is ill informed.

DE students cannot transfer. They can only apply as first year students. MTAP is a transfer program.

This is the specific language from the UMD prospective student page on their own website:
If you are a high school graduate who, at the time of applying, have completed at least 12 semester or 18 quarter hours after high school graduation at a regionally accredited college or university, then you are considered a transfer applicant.


Transfer students have to have completed their course work AFTER high school graduation. A dual enrolled student is by definition earning their college credits BEFORE high school graduation, so they apply as a first year student.

If they take a semester+ break after graduating high school, they count as a transfer I believe

I have never heard that and it does not match the language UMD publishes on how transfers are defined. The MTAP webpage also specifically calls out that dual enrolled high school students are not eligible. But it is possible you have some special knowledge here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Montgomery County no because MCCC is frankly really bad. NOVA is well respected. California has community colleges that are better than many regional universities.

The place where DE might help is if the target is UMD. If this is the case then starting to work on a transfer path into your major is a good strategy.

It is so frustrating when people who obviously know nothing about DE spout out this kind of stuff. Personally I don’t care if people do DE or not but they should at least have access to accurate information to make their decisions.

Montgomery College is ranked one of the top community colleges in the country. Also, there is no DE transfer pathway to UMD. DE students must apply as freshman and get no transfer advantage.

MTAP is a transfer pathway program into UMD. Sounds like you are the one who is ill informed.

DE students cannot transfer. They can only apply as first year students. MTAP is a transfer program.

This is the specific language from the UMD prospective student page on their own website:
If you are a high school graduate who, at the time of applying, have completed at least 12 semester or 18 quarter hours after high school graduation at a regionally accredited college or university, then you are considered a transfer applicant.


Transfer students have to have completed their course work AFTER high school graduation. A dual enrolled student is by definition earning their college credits BEFORE high school graduation, so they apply as a first year student.

If they take a semester+ break after graduating high school, they count as a transfer I believe

For MTAP all the transfer credits (minimum of 30) have to be taken after HS graduation. DE courses don't count. You can still transfer them, but in addition to the MTAP requirement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Montgomery County no because MCCC is frankly really bad. NOVA is well respected. California has community colleges that are better than many regional universities.

The place where DE might help is if the target is UMD. If this is the case then starting to work on a transfer path into your major is a good strategy.

It is so frustrating when people who obviously know nothing about DE spout out this kind of stuff. Personally I don’t care if people do DE or not but they should at least have access to accurate information to make their decisions.

Montgomery College is ranked one of the top community colleges in the country. Also, there is no DE transfer pathway to UMD. DE students must apply as freshman and get no transfer advantage.

MTAP is a transfer pathway program into UMD. Sounds like you are the one who is ill informed.

DE students cannot transfer. They can only apply as first year students. MTAP is a transfer program.

This is the specific language from the UMD prospective student page on their own website:
If you are a high school graduate who, at the time of applying, have completed at least 12 semester or 18 quarter hours after high school graduation at a regionally accredited college or university, then you are considered a transfer applicant.


Transfer students have to have completed their course work AFTER high school graduation. A dual enrolled student is by definition earning their college credits BEFORE high school graduation, so they apply as a first year student.

If they take a semester+ break after graduating high school, they count as a transfer I believe

They may count as a transfer (regular, not MTAP) but transferring to UMD outside of MTAP is very competitive. If you have the stats, you may as well apply as a freshman. If you don't have high stats, your best bet is MTAP but they spell it out in multiple places that all credits have to be earned after the HS graduation and DE classes won't satisfy that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Montgomery County no because MCCC is frankly really bad. NOVA is well respected. California has community colleges that are better than many regional universities.

The place where DE might help is if the target is UMD. If this is the case then starting to work on a transfer path into your major is a good strategy.

It is so frustrating when people who obviously know nothing about DE spout out this kind of stuff. Personally I don’t care if people do DE or not but they should at least have access to accurate information to make their decisions.

Montgomery College is ranked one of the top community colleges in the country. Also, there is no DE transfer pathway to UMD. DE students must apply as freshman and get no transfer advantage.

MTAP is a transfer pathway program into UMD. Sounds like you are the one who is ill informed.

DE students cannot transfer. They can only apply as first year students. MTAP is a transfer program.

This is the specific language from the UMD prospective student page on their own website:
If you are a high school graduate who, at the time of applying, have completed at least 12 semester or 18 quarter hours after high school graduation at a regionally accredited college or university, then you are considered a transfer applicant.


Transfer students have to have completed their course work AFTER high school graduation. A dual enrolled student is by definition earning their college credits BEFORE high school graduation, so they apply as a first year student.

If they take a semester+ break after graduating high school, they count as a transfer I believe

I have never heard that and it does not match the language UMD publishes on how transfers are defined. The MTAP webpage also specifically calls out that dual enrolled high school students are not eligible. But it is possible you have some special knowledge here.

This is what UMD told me. The language is about whether you have graduated high school at the time of the application.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Montgomery County no because MCCC is frankly really bad. NOVA is well respected. California has community colleges that are better than many regional universities.

The place where DE might help is if the target is UMD. If this is the case then starting to work on a transfer path into your major is a good strategy.

It is so frustrating when people who obviously know nothing about DE spout out this kind of stuff. Personally I don’t care if people do DE or not but they should at least have access to accurate information to make their decisions.

Montgomery College is ranked one of the top community colleges in the country. Also, there is no DE transfer pathway to UMD. DE students must apply as freshman and get no transfer advantage.

MTAP is a transfer pathway program into UMD. Sounds like you are the one who is ill informed.

DE students cannot transfer. They can only apply as first year students. MTAP is a transfer program.

This is the specific language from the UMD prospective student page on their own website:
If you are a high school graduate who, at the time of applying, have completed at least 12 semester or 18 quarter hours after high school graduation at a regionally accredited college or university, then you are considered a transfer applicant.


Transfer students have to have completed their course work AFTER high school graduation. A dual enrolled student is by definition earning their college credits BEFORE high school graduation, so they apply as a first year student.

If they take a semester+ break after graduating high school, they count as a transfer I believe

I have never heard that and it does not match the language UMD publishes on how transfers are defined. The MTAP webpage also specifically calls out that dual enrolled high school students are not eligible. But it is possible you have some special knowledge here.

This is what UMD told me. The language is about whether you have graduated high school at the time of the application.

UMD told you that if you were a HS dual enrollment student and then took a semester off, without taking any additional classes, you could apply as a transfer student under MTAP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Montgomery County no because MCCC is frankly really bad. NOVA is well respected. California has community colleges that are better than many regional universities.

The place where DE might help is if the target is UMD. If this is the case then starting to work on a transfer path into your major is a good strategy.

It is so frustrating when people who obviously know nothing about DE spout out this kind of stuff. Personally I don’t care if people do DE or not but they should at least have access to accurate information to make their decisions.

Montgomery College is ranked one of the top community colleges in the country. Also, there is no DE transfer pathway to UMD. DE students must apply as freshman and get no transfer advantage.

MTAP is a transfer pathway program into UMD. Sounds like you are the one who is ill informed.

DE students cannot transfer. They can only apply as first year students. MTAP is a transfer program.

This is the specific language from the UMD prospective student page on their own website:
If you are a high school graduate who, at the time of applying, have completed at least 12 semester or 18 quarter hours after high school graduation at a regionally accredited college or university, then you are considered a transfer applicant.


Transfer students have to have completed their course work AFTER high school graduation. A dual enrolled student is by definition earning their college credits BEFORE high school graduation, so they apply as a first year student.

If they take a semester+ break after graduating high school, they count as a transfer I believe

I have never heard that and it does not match the language UMD publishes on how transfers are defined. The MTAP webpage also specifically calls out that dual enrolled high school students are not eligible. But it is possible you have some special knowledge here.

This is what UMD told me. The language is about whether you have graduated high school at the time of the application.

UMD told you that if you were a HS dual enrollment student and then took a semester off, without taking any additional classes, you could apply as a transfer student under MTAP?

No. They didn’t mention MTAP. They simply said that you are considered a freshman applicant if, at the time of application, you have not graduated high school, regardless of how many college credits you have, and that you are considered a transfer applicant if, at the time of application, you have a GE or high school diploma and more than a minimal amount of college credits.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Montgomery County no because MCCC is frankly really bad. NOVA is well respected. California has community colleges that are better than many regional universities.

The place where DE might help is if the target is UMD. If this is the case then starting to work on a transfer path into your major is a good strategy.

It is so frustrating when people who obviously know nothing about DE spout out this kind of stuff. Personally I don’t care if people do DE or not but they should at least have access to accurate information to make their decisions.

Montgomery College is ranked one of the top community colleges in the country. Also, there is no DE transfer pathway to UMD. DE students must apply as freshman and get no transfer advantage.

MTAP is a transfer pathway program into UMD. Sounds like you are the one who is ill informed.

DE students cannot transfer. They can only apply as first year students. MTAP is a transfer program.

This is the specific language from the UMD prospective student page on their own website:
If you are a high school graduate who, at the time of applying, have completed at least 12 semester or 18 quarter hours after high school graduation at a regionally accredited college or university, then you are considered a transfer applicant.


Transfer students have to have completed their course work AFTER high school graduation. A dual enrolled student is by definition earning their college credits BEFORE high school graduation, so they apply as a first year student.

If they take a semester+ break after graduating high school, they count as a transfer I believe

I have never heard that and it does not match the language UMD publishes on how transfers are defined. The MTAP webpage also specifically calls out that dual enrolled high school students are not eligible. But it is possible you have some special knowledge here.

This is what UMD told me. The language is about whether you have graduated high school at the time of the application.

UMD told you that if you were a HS dual enrollment student and then took a semester off, without taking any additional classes, you could apply as a transfer student under MTAP?

No. They didn’t mention MTAP. They simply said that you are considered a freshman applicant if, at the time of application, you have not graduated high school, regardless of how many college credits you have, and that you are considered a transfer applicant if, at the time of application, you have a GE or high school diploma and more than a minimal amount of college credits.

I believe it is possible they told you this but for anyone else I’d do my homework and confirm directly. This contradicts their own webpage so it would feel worth double checking, at a minimum.

[Anonymous]

DE impresses top colleges when it's done in conjunction with a regular rigorous HS schedule. Like, a kid who has 6 DE classes under their belt while taking as many APs as they can during the year. Some kids take online DE classes during the year (condensed terms) or during the summer summer (and yes, they pay for them out of pocket).

Ask me how I know?

[Anonymous]

How do you know?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Montgomery County no because MCCC is frankly really bad. NOVA is well respected. California has community colleges that are better than many regional universities.

The place where DE might help is if the target is UMD. If this is the case then starting to work on a transfer path into your major is a good strategy.

It is so frustrating when people who obviously know nothing about DE spout out this kind of stuff. Personally I don’t care if people do DE or not but they should at least have access to accurate information to make their decisions.

Montgomery College is ranked one of the top community colleges in the country. Also, there is no DE transfer pathway to UMD. DE students must apply as freshman and get no transfer advantage.

MTAP is a transfer pathway program into UMD. Sounds like you are the one who is ill informed.

DE students cannot transfer. They can only apply as first year students. MTAP is a transfer program.

This is the specific language from the UMD prospective student page on their own website:
If you are a high school graduate who, at the time of applying, have completed at least 12 semester or 18 quarter hours after high school graduation at a regionally accredited college or university, then you are considered a transfer applicant.


Transfer students have to have completed their course work AFTER high school graduation. A dual enrolled student is by definition earning their college credits BEFORE high school graduation, so they apply as a first year student.

If they take a semester+ break after graduating high school, they count as a transfer I believe

I have never heard that and it does not match the language UMD publishes on how transfers are defined. The MTAP webpage also specifically calls out that dual enrolled high school students are not eligible. But it is possible you have some special knowledge here.

This is what UMD told me. The language is about whether you have graduated high school at the time of the application.

UMD told you that if you were a HS dual enrollment student and then took a semester off, without taking any additional classes, you could apply as a transfer student under MTAP?

No. They didn’t mention MTAP. They simply said that you are considered a freshman applicant if, at the time of application, you have not graduated high school, regardless of how many college credits you have, and that you are considered a transfer applicant if, at the time of application, you have a GE or high school diploma and more than a minimal amount of college credits.

I believe it is possible they told you this but for anyone else I’d do my homework and confirm directly. This contradicts their own webpage so it would feel worth double checking, at a minimum.

The minimum number of credits completed post high school to be a transfer applicant is 12.

[Anonymous]

My sense is that DE is being pushed in some districts as a way to increase college participation or to provide a pathway to an AA degree. In MCPS I feel like showing rigor through Apps is still the preferred path. This may change though. DE is more popular nationwide than it has ever been.