High School Swim Questions (VHSL)

[Anonymous]

Some of the information here is wrong, but it’s because it’s confusing and it’s slightly different depending on which VHSL class and region you are in.

For States, it’s really easy. The cut times are posted on the VHSL website. If you swim faster than that time at a HS meet this year, you have a spot at States.

Next up is Regionals. If you finish in the top 5 at your regional meet, then you have earned a spot at States.

Now is where it gets confusing. To make regionals it’s either make the region cut time which are different in every region or each school gets to send X number of swimmers where X is different in every region. This usually happens in regions that don’t have districts. If there are districts then each school gets X entries per event, where again X is different. If you swim at districts, the top X finishers get a sport at regionals. All of these decisions are made by the HS Atheltic Directors in the region, so it’s very very different depending on what class/region/district you are in. A lot of this is based on geography and how close all the HS are to each other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. What swimmers on the team go to Districts and in how many events?

Each team can put up to four swimmers in each event. Each swimmer can swim up to four events (either 2 individual and 2 relays, or 1 individual, 3 relays). Generally, the fastest kids go to districts.

2. What swimmers go to Regionals and how many events?

To make Regionals, you need to place highly at Districts OR get a cut time (different regions have different cut times). Event limitations are the same.

3. What swimmers go to States and in how many events?

To make states you need to place in the top 5 at regionals OR get a cut time (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ghc-ycnC4WFJ0z5JhDu3tyKkf1nw0EuZ/view)

4. Dual meet results are not published online

Okay, I have two questions now. Where are the regional cut times posted (thank you to the State cut times poster)?

And, if a kid already has a state cut time, I would assume that the coach would try and get other kids into District/Regionals in that event? Am I correct in that assumption?

The Region times aren't posted publicly, they are sent out by the DSA of the school hosting the specific region. Most coaches should have them, ours sent them out in an email at the beginning of the year.

Sometimes, but not necessarily. If your schools is a competitive team and in a position to win the District/Region meet, then they might swim the swimmer who already has a time in that event to maximize points.

PVS posts all the District results, and time standards (including region cut) are included. They are under HS meets.

[Anonymous]

Regional/State cut times -

https://theswimfarm.com/time-standards


High School swim & dive info -

https://theswimfarm.com/about-high-school-swim

https://theswimfarm.com/about-high-school-dive

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Regional/State cut times -

https://theswimfarm.com/time-standards


High School swim & dive info -

https://theswimfarm.com/about-high-school-swim

https://theswimfarm.com/about-high-school-dive

That is only the Northern Region. Each region is slightly different (but all Class 6 very similar)

[Anonymous]

But the formula the ADs use is listed, so you could figure it out for any region based on that formula

[Anonymous]

Is there a rulebook somewhere for VHSL that spells these things out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Is there a rulebook somewhere for VHSL that spells these things out?

Yes there is a NHFS rule book that VHSL uses, but it only covers State Meets (think NHFS=USA Swimming, VHSL=PVS). VHSL itself is only responsible for Class 1-6 State Meets, so it doesn't cover anything except the State Championship meets. VHSL will also publish a "Meet Information" on their website for the State Meets (similar to a PVS Sanction/Meet announcement) that will spell out the different ways to qualify for States. Everything below that is decided by the HS Athletic Directors in that Region/District; so it's WILDLY different between Regions and Districts around the state. It gets even more convoluted when there are mixed Class schools in the same Region and/or District.

So the crappy answer is really "Ask your HS Athletic Director" because they are probably the only person that knows for your particular school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Is there a rulebook somewhere for VHSL that spells these things out?

The "rule" is in the VHSL handbook which can be found on vhsl.org under "Administrators and Coaches":

80-4-3 Qualifying Standards-VHSL state qualifying standards will be produced annually in
accordance with the NFHS rules. Regions shall set swimming and diving standards
for qualifying into their respective championship meets in accordance with NFHS rules. If
a region fails to set such standards, the default for those championships will be the VHSL
state qualifying standards.

80-4-4 State Meet Entries-Eligibility of individual contestants shall be governed by the
following provisions:
(1) Only entries which are properly submitted using the Hy-Tek Meet Manager fi le,
provided by the State Meet Director, and received by the State Meet Director not later than
the deadline date for entry, will be accepted.
(2) The entry list must show those participants who place first, second, third, fourth,
fifth, sixth, seventh, or eighth in a regional championship meet or who were certified by the
regional meet director as having met the qualifying performance times and/or scores for the
state meet during the regional championship meet or in a regular meet, as defined by the
NFHS rules book.
(3) No additions to, or changes in, the official list of entries (other than scratches)
shall be permitted after the entry form has been received by the meet director.
(4) Relay events are considered as school team events. Any student included on a
school's Master Eligibility List may be included on the state meet entry form as an alternate.
(5) Each school's relay team must place first, second, third, or fourth in a regional
championship meet or must have met the state qualifying standards in the regional champion-
ship meet or a regular meet, as defined by the NFHS Swimming and Diving Rules Book.

[Anonymous]

Do kids wear tech suits at these meets? Districts? Regionals? States?

I would think that they would wear team suits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do kids wear tech suits at these meets? Districts? Regionals? States?

I would think that they would wear team suits.

Some do, some don't for districts. More for regions, everyone at states. I've never seen one at a dual meet.

[Anonymous]

Are meet results anywhere? I thought the VHSL ticker would update with results.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are meet results anywhere? I thought the VHSL ticker would update with results.

"It depends" on the host team computer operator/coach. Sometimes it goes to MeetMobile and/or Swimcloud; sometimes only the participating teams get pdf results; and sometimes even the participating teams/swimmers don't get the results.

Regional and State's are USA Swimming observed, so the results will be available at either PVS or VSI:

https://www.pvswim.org/hsresults.html
https://www.gomotionapp.com/team/va/page/meets/high-school

[Anonymous]

We never get our results. It is annoying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We never get our results. It is annoying.

we only get results for our own team.

[Anonymous]

Are there multiple States meets? Or just one meet where high schoolers from around the state compete?