Hellllllppppppp Frozen Turkey

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would leave it sitting out for the night, without water. If the core is still frozen solid, there's no way the outer flesh will start to go bad.

No, the water method is faster.... because science!

I don't doubt you, it's just work and risk of splashing raw meat germs about. I'm lazy. Overnight plus tomorrow morning should be fine outside, but maybe it depends on how late OP's Thanksgiving is.

You leave it in the wrapper.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would leave it sitting out for the night, without water. If the core is still frozen solid, there's no way the outer flesh will start to go bad.

No, the water method is faster.... because science!

I don't doubt you, it's just work and risk of splashing raw meat germs about. I'm lazy. Overnight plus tomorrow morning should be fine outside, but maybe it depends on how late OP's Thanksgiving is.

You'll likely get sick doing it your way.

I don't think so. I'm a microbiologist, I've worked with bacteria in the lab. I know the food rules, ie, you don't leave raw meat at room temp. But sometimes... it is an easy way to defrost something, and if the inside is still very cold, there won't be enough bacteria that will accumulate on the defrosted portion, because it will still be quite cold, to make anyone sick. Whereas if you open up the package, and try to maneuver a large bird into a bath of cold water, that you're also supposed to change every 30 minutes, I'm going to guess that most people will get raw meat juice somewhere they don't want to, which might lead to food poisoning. Either way, there's a measure of risk, and you can choose the option that you are most comfortable with. I would never change a turkey's bath every 30 minutes! I've got other things to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would leave it sitting out for the night, without water. If the core is still frozen solid, there's no way the outer flesh will start to go bad.

No, the water method is faster.... because science!

I don't doubt you, it's just work and risk of splashing raw meat germs about. I'm lazy. Overnight plus tomorrow morning should be fine outside, but maybe it depends on how late OP's Thanksgiving is.

You'll likely get sick doing it your way.

I don't think so. I'm a microbiologist, I've worked with bacteria in the lab. I know the food rules, ie, you don't leave raw meat at room temp. But sometimes... it is an easy way to defrost something, and if the inside is still very cold, there won't be enough bacteria that will accumulate on the defrosted portion, because it will still be quite cold, to make anyone sick. Whereas if you open up the package, and try to maneuver a large bird into a bath of cold water, that you're also supposed to change every 30 minutes, I'm going to guess that most people will get raw meat juice somewhere they don't want to, which might lead to food poisoning. Either way, there's a measure of risk, and you can choose the option that you are most comfortable with. I would never change a turkey's bath every 30 minutes! I've got other things to do.

Well I guess it will give you more time for the shitter later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would leave it sitting out for the night, without water. If the core is still frozen solid, there's no way the outer flesh will start to go bad.

No, the water method is faster.... because science!

I don't doubt you, it's just work and risk of splashing raw meat germs about. I'm lazy. Overnight plus tomorrow morning should be fine outside, but maybe it depends on how late OP's Thanksgiving is.

You'll likely get sick doing it your way.

I don't think so. I'm a microbiologist, I've worked with bacteria in the lab. I know the food rules, ie, you don't leave raw meat at room temp. But sometimes... it is an easy way to defrost something, and if the inside is still very cold, there won't be enough bacteria that will accumulate on the defrosted portion, because it will still be quite cold, to make anyone sick. Whereas if you open up the package, and try to maneuver a large bird into a bath of cold water, that you're also supposed to change every 30 minutes, I'm going to guess that most people will get raw meat juice somewhere they don't want to, which might lead to food poisoning. Either way, there's a measure of risk, and you can choose the option that you are most comfortable with. I would never change a turkey's bath every 30 minutes! I've got other things to do.

NO one agrees with you.
https://www.cdc.gov/food-safety/foods/holiday-turkey.html#:~:text=When%20a%20turkey%20stays%20out%20at%20room,more%20information%20about%20thawing%20turkeys%20from%20USDA.
"When a turkey stays out at room temperature for more than 2 hours, its temperature becomes unsafe even if the center is still frozen. Germs can grow rapidly in the "danger zone" between 40°F and 140°F."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:cold water bath to defrost faster - 30 minutes per lb. from frozen

Keep the water cold and change it out every 30 minutes

Once the outside is defrosted, put it back into the fridge.

You can defrost the inner core/neck tomorrow morning by running cold water into the cavity.

This. You will be fine!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would leave it sitting out for the night, without water. If the core is still frozen solid, there's no way the outer flesh will start to go bad.

No, the water method is faster.... because science!

I don't doubt you, it's just work and risk of splashing raw meat germs about. I'm lazy. Overnight plus tomorrow morning should be fine outside, but maybe it depends on how late OP's Thanksgiving is.

You'll likely get sick doing it your way.

I don't think so. I'm a microbiologist, I've worked with bacteria in the lab. I know the food rules, ie, you don't leave raw meat at room temp. But sometimes... it is an easy way to defrost something, and if the inside is still very cold, there won't be enough bacteria that will accumulate on the defrosted portion, because it will still be quite cold, to make anyone sick. Whereas if you open up the package, and try to maneuver a large bird into a bath of cold water, that you're also supposed to change every 30 minutes, I'm going to guess that most people will get raw meat juice somewhere they don't want to, which might lead to food poisoning. Either way, there's a measure of risk, and you can choose the option that you are most comfortable with. I would never change a turkey's bath every 30 minutes! I've got other things to do.

You leave the turkey INSIDE the wrapper! No raw meat juice anywhere, use the sink it if fits, and wash it after so you can be sure it’s clean.

[Anonymous]

Butterball has been my choice for decades. The above water thaw is the correct method. You will be surprised how quickly it will thaw. Keep it in the refrigerator with the wrapping on. Have a nice thanksgiving!

[Anonymous]

Absolutely never open the wrapper until you are ready to cook. Also if you have a meat thermometer you can cook it frozen. Start early.
https://www.butterball.com/products/cook-frozen-whole-turkey
https://justcook.butcherbox.com/a-step-by-step-guide-for-how-to-cook-a-frozen-turkey/

[Anonymous]

Do you by any chance have a sou vide machine?

A friend used that by setting it to 37 degrees to defrost a turkey very quickly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Butterball has been my choice for decades. The above water thaw is the correct method. You will be surprised how quickly it will thaw. Keep it in the refrigerator with the wrapping on. Have a nice thanksgiving!

Thank you experts! We put the bird, wrapper on, in a bowl of cold water inside the refrigerator. By some thanksgiving miracle, the bird was thawed within a few hours. Now wish me luck cooking the thing ...

[Anonymous]

Consider chicken

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would leave it sitting out for the night, without water. If the core is still frozen solid, there's no way the outer flesh will start to go bad.

No, the water method is faster.... because science!

I don't doubt you, it's just work and risk of splashing raw meat germs about. I'm lazy. Overnight plus tomorrow morning should be fine outside, but maybe it depends on how late OP's Thanksgiving is.

You keep it wrapped in the plastic

[Anonymous]

OP - Post update here in 24 hrs.

[Anonymous]

How frozen was it? Hot water is great too, not sure why pps are saying cold water only.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would leave it sitting out for the night, without water. If the core is still frozen solid, there's no way the outer flesh will start to go bad.

No, the water method is faster.... because science!

I don't doubt you, it's just work and risk of splashing raw meat germs about. I'm lazy. Overnight plus tomorrow morning should be fine outside, but maybe it depends on how late OP's Thanksgiving is.

You'll likely get sick doing it your way.

I don't think so. I'm a microbiologist, I've worked with bacteria in the lab. I know the food rules, ie, you don't leave raw meat at room temp. But sometimes... it is an easy way to defrost something, and if the inside is still very cold, there won't be enough bacteria that will accumulate on the defrosted portion, because it will still be quite cold, to make anyone sick. Whereas if you open up the package, and try to maneuver a large bird into a bath of cold water, that you're also supposed to change every 30 minutes, I'm going to guess that most people will get raw meat juice somewhere they don't want to, which might lead to food poisoning. Either way, there's a measure of risk, and you can choose the option that you are most comfortable with. I would never change a turkey's bath every 30 minutes! I've got other things to do.

I've done this many times, nobody ever got sick, turkey is awesome, lasts for days. Normal way in Europe to defrost most meats. You do not keep it out for days, clearly.