Publicly funded supermarkets?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Commissary, anyone?

Yep. Military have had these forever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe Mamdani was on to something.

It's the beginning.

IOW, give it a year or two before it implodes.

What’s the worse case scenario? I honestly can’t think of one. Maybe no customers, bad produce? Then it just goes out of business. No harm. No foul. But an idea to solve a problem.

[Anonymous]

Shrug. We’re publicly funding the salaries of a bunch of morons in this administration as well as a load of other ridiculousness the Orange man wants ;(thus summer’s military parade). Bring it on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"publicly funded, privately run* is the model for graft.

Socialize the costs, privatize the benefits.

Democrats found a new NGO model.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Commissary, anyone?

I’m convinced that so many Service Members struggle when they leave because the cradle-to-grave socialism of the military takes away a lot of day-to-day anxieties. Of course, those anxieties are replaced by other ones - seeing active combat, year-long deployments, etc.

But when socialism works well (see: U.S. military life), people often flounder when they are removed from that structure and tossed into the cold reality of the U.S. civilian economy and society.

People flounder when trapped in a capitalist economy, you say?

No, people flounder when they have been infantilized and dependent on others and now have to grow up and live independently.

Even our national parks know this; don’t feed the wildlife, they stop learning to forage for their own food

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe Mamdani was on to something.

It's the beginning.

IOW, give it a year or two before it implodes.

What’s the worse case scenario? I honestly can’t think of one. Maybe no customers, bad produce? Then it just goes out of business. No harm. No foul. But an idea to solve a problem.

No harm, no foul? Millions of dollars are going to lost. It will drive real businesses out after having their taxes subsidize their competition.

You are either a fed or a sahm to be this ignorant. Money doesn’t just “appear” it comes for others labor and services.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a response to market failures. Grocery stores are owned by corporations and don’t want to invest in low income areas where margins are low.

For some reason, it’s fine when rural white people have co-op grocery stores, often subsidized by a local or state government. But this idea in poor neighborhoods of NYC raises hackles?

Get bent.

Co-ops are member-owned, are not not government-subsidized. It's just a different business model, not one dependent on government subsidies. If a co-op fails, no taxpayer dollars are lost.

Yeah, I don't see why if rural white people can organize coops. Inner cities people can't.

I mean this is what my parents did. They would all read a coop book, write down the things they wanted, put in an order. Then sit in the Walmart parking lot and hand out the items from an 18-wheeler when they arrived. Many times, members of the coop would team up. For example, split a five-gallon bucket of peanut butter.

That's what they did.

[Anonymous]

Yes fool. Food security is one of the most basic ways a nation can defend itself. If they only spent a fraction of what they spend on the military on food, our nation would be better and stronger

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes fool. Food security is one of the most basic ways a nation can defend itself. If they only spent a fraction of what they spend on the military on food, our nation would be better and stronger

You seem fairly to extremely uninformed about America's food supply. Maybe you should research it a little.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s a response to market failures. Grocery stores are owned by corporations and don’t want to invest in low income areas where margins are low.

For some reason, it’s fine when rural white people have co-op grocery stores, often subsidized by a local or state government. But this idea in poor neighborhoods of NYC raises hackles?

Get bent.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a response to market failures. Grocery stores are owned by corporations and don’t want to invest in low income areas where margins are low.

For some reason, it’s fine when rural white people have co-op grocery stores, often subsidized by a local or state government. But this idea in poor neighborhoods of NYC raises hackles?

Get bent.

Co-ops are member-owned, are not not government-subsidized. It's just a different business model, not one dependent on government subsidies. If a co-op fails, no taxpayer dollars are lost.

most of the rural co-ops receive public grants. Do you really not know this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Commissary, anyone?

I’m convinced that so many Service Members struggle when they leave because the cradle-to-grave socialism of the military takes away a lot of day-to-day anxieties. Of course, those anxieties are replaced by other ones - seeing active combat, year-long deployments, etc.

But when socialism works well (see: U.S. military life), people often flounder when they are removed from that structure and tossed into the cold reality of the U.S. civilian economy and society.

People flounder when trapped in a capitalist economy, you say?

No, people flounder when they have been infantilized and dependent on others and now have to grow up and live independently.

Even our national parks know this; don’t feed the wildlife, they stop learning to forage for their own food

That belief only works if capitalist society provides people the means to live independently. Ever tried supporting a family of four on Walmart wages? They deliberately underpay their workers, knowing that SNAP benefits will make up the difference. The government is subsidizing these large corporations.

Seems like the corporations should learn how to forage for themselves.

[Anonymous]

This supermarket has nothing to do with bringing food to poor minority residents and everything to do with gentrification.

The area of Atlanta where this grocery store is opening is in the South Downtown area which has seen a surge in commercial and residential development, including upscale condos, hotels, office buildings, and retail spaces. Mercedes Benz stadium is about a mile away.

Around 8 years ago the South’s largest homeless shelter- the Peachtree-Pine which housed up to 1,000 homeless on cold winter nights closed under community pressure that theye was a massive of crime around the shelter.

So shelter closes, downtrodden forced out, new developments go in, property values increase. Business support this supermarket so they can sell residential properties. All in time for the 8 games Atlanta is hosting for the World Cup next summer at Mercedes benz stadium.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Commissary, anyone?

I’m convinced that so many Service Members struggle when they leave because the cradle-to-grave socialism of the military takes away a lot of day-to-day anxieties. Of course, those anxieties are replaced by other ones - seeing active combat, year-long deployments, etc.

But when socialism works well (see: U.S. military life), people often flounder when they are removed from that structure and tossed into the cold reality of the U.S. civilian economy and society.

People flounder when trapped in a capitalist economy, you say?

No, people flounder when they have been infantilized and dependent on others and now have to grow up and live independently.

Even our national parks know this; don’t feed the wildlife, they stop learning to forage for their own food

That’s not why parks don’t allow feeding. It’s to minimize human/wildlife encounters with desensitized animals that may attack.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Commissary, anyone?

I’m convinced that so many Service Members struggle when they leave because the cradle-to-grave socialism of the military takes away a lot of day-to-day anxieties. Of course, those anxieties are replaced by other ones - seeing active combat, year-long deployments, etc.

But when socialism works well (see: U.S. military life), people often flounder when they are removed from that structure and tossed into the cold reality of the U.S. civilian economy and society.

Yeah, my early childhood in the 80s was spent on Army bases overseas and life was pretty idyllic when we had very little choice in where we bought our groceries, clothing, healthcare, etc. There weren’t even any commercials on the one American TV station we had access to—just government sponsored announcements. Reintegrating into American capitalist life—the one our parents were ostensibly defending around the world—was rough on the whole family.