Motherless Mothers

Anonymous
I don't consider those whose mothers have passed away motherless, book title or not. This is clearly not the author of that book on this thread. Those with mothers who have passed away have experienced having a mother in a positive way, at least.

When your mother/MIL is abusive or absent or just plain selfish in so many ways, it is a very different hole in your heart. Be glad you will never know it: someone who is supposed to love you who just can't. Because the mother/MIL doesn't love themselves. Can you picture it? Can you sum it up in a book? Probably not.

Don't laugh when someone says they have to watch t.v. to see what a real mother is. It is all some have. Never diminish their need like that. Some people do not have role models and have to figure out "motherly" (or even domestic things) out themselves. It makes for an extremely difficult life day to day, like it or not.

Maybe we should be asking: what did your mother teach you? Maybe some people will be helpful in this regard.

I am sorry for those who have lost their mothers, but consider how blessed you are to have great memories, photos, movies, traditions, etc. to pass onto your children. More than some have. Please be grateful you had that (ever) and don't turn this into a contest.
Anonymous
My mother was supposed to have loved me and just couldn't. And now she has Alzheimer's and cannot even feed herself.

Guess I lucked out twice for this thread.
Anonymous
22:59 - I am sorry. That must be difficult.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don't consider those whose mothers have passed away motherless, book title or not. This is clearly not the author of that book on this thread. Those with mothers who have passed away have experienced having a mother in a positive way, at least.

When your mother/MIL is abusive or absent or just plain selfish in so many ways, it is a very different hole in your heart. Be glad you will never know it: someone who is supposed to love you who just can't. Because the mother/MIL doesn't love themselves. Can you picture it? Can you sum it up in a book? Probably not.

Don't laugh when someone says they have to watch t.v. to see what a real mother is. It is all some have. Never diminish their need like that. Some people do not have role models and have to figure out "motherly" (or even domestic things) out themselves. It makes for an extremely difficult life day to day, like it or not.

Maybe we should be asking: what did your mother teach you? Maybe some people will be helpful in this regard.

I am sorry for those who have lost their mothers, but consider how blessed you are to have great memories, photos, movies, traditions, etc. to pass onto your children. More than some have. Please be grateful you had that (ever) and don't turn this into a contest.


I'm not sure where you get the idea that all people who have mothers who are dead, had mothers who were loving and caring when they were alive. I'm sorry to tell you otherwise. My mother is dead, but I never had a good relationship with her. She was narcissistic. She was not abusive, but just because a mother is dead, doesn't mean she was a great mother. My mother has been dead 9 years and I don't really miss her. I would rather someone else's mother "adopted" me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don't consider those whose mothers have passed away motherless, book title or not. This is clearly not the author of that book on this thread. Those with mothers who have passed away have experienced having a mother in a positive way, at least.

When your mother/MIL is abusive or absent or just plain selfish in so many ways, it is a very different hole in your heart. Be glad you will never know it: someone who is supposed to love you who just can't. Because the mother/MIL doesn't love themselves. Can you picture it? Can you sum it up in a book? Probably not.

Don't laugh when someone says they have to watch t.v. to see what a real mother is. It is all some have. Never diminish their need like that. Some people do not have role models and have to figure out "motherly" (or even domestic things) out themselves. It makes for an extremely difficult life day to day, like it or not.

Maybe we should be asking: what did your mother teach you? Maybe some people will be helpful in this regard.

I am sorry for those who have lost their mothers, but consider how blessed you are to have great memories, photos, movies, traditions, etc. to pass onto your children. More than some have. Please be grateful you had that (ever) and don't turn this into a contest.


My MIL is abusive and selfish and a whole lot of other things - I don't consider myself motherless because of that and I certainly don't have a "hole in my heart" because of it. It is just my MIL, not my real mother. It is just like if someone down the street was like that, the only difference being that unfortunately I have to deal with her from time to time because of my husband. Her existence or not does not make any difference to me.
Anonymous
My mom died a couple weeks before my 30th birthday, so I guess I fall into the "motherless mother" category. We had a terrible relationship that we didn't repair until about 2 years before she died and even then we were separated by distance. I miss her every day and some days I feel like a huge part of me died with her. The worst is when I wake up after having a dream where she's alive, and the having the realization hit me that she's gone. It took me a good 6 months to stop picking up the phone to call her.

My MIL is not a mother to me. Not because I don't like her, but because we are just not close. Our relationship is incredibly superficial. Thankfully we live far enough away so that the superficial nature of the relationship works well. When we lived in the same town, she was a nightmare for me. She critisized everything that I did and her sister and her mother were critical of me, too. She never thought that I was good enough for her son. My daughter has a great relationship with her and she and my husband get along well, so that's all that matters to me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP it is so hard. I struggle with it constantly. I have no one to lean on. I get so jealous of my friends with moms who babysit, send care packages, bring soup when they are sick, let them be a brat every once in awhile and not judge them. I'm trying to be the mother I never had, but it is draining. I would love someone to love ME like I love my kids. It wasn't in the cards. I don't know how to tell you to cope, but know you aren't alone.

And to the poster with the deceased mother, I am so very sorry for you loss. I hope your happy memories bring you some comfort. I have none of those. Believe me when I say there are things in life worse than death.


I can relate. I work hard everyday to not parent like my mother, and it's exhausting. But my kid is happy and grounded, so I'm more than happy to be exhausted. My grandmother, my mother's mother, is awesome, I don't understand what made my mom the person she is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:19:02 why don't YOU be grateful that you had a nice mother worth remembering. I'd take 5 years with one of those over the 30 I've had with mine. Do you even GET that some people have HORRIBLE parents? Like, abusive, thieving, crazy as hell parents? At least you had a role model. I have to figure out how to be a mother by watching movies and stealing moments I observe in others. Get your head out your ass.


I'm sorry but that just struck me as funny.


Funny but true. I often wonder why my mother had children - I think it was the thing to do.
Anonymous
My mother was a drug addict who died when I was 5. I barely remember her, and what I remember is mostly bad. But I think she loved me anyway.
Anonymous
New poster here...

There's more then one way to be motherless. Some people lose their mothers when they are young, or when they are adults. Other people have abusive or neglectful mothers who can't serve as role models as to what true mothers are like.

For those who have mothers who passed away - my condolences. But keep in mind how hard it must be to be a mother (or father) when your own mother (or father) were horrible. And what kind of burden that is to share with your own children. How do you explain it to them? How do you answer their questions? I think that is what the OP is asking. So please, relax and don't take it personally.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, I mean this kindly, so please don't take it the wrong way. I am an actual motherless mother--my mother passed away twelve years ago. You still have the opportunity to repair relations with your mother; you are not truly motherless. As someone who knows what it is really like to have no mother, literally, please reapir things before it is too late.



Listen to this PP. You can change things if you try and you need to try.
Anonymous
sometimes you can't change things with your mother and you don't need to try. My mother is abusive to the point that her parents AND her priest told me to move on and stop trying to repair things. She is abusive and she will not change. She doesn't want to. I have moved on -- to my kids it's just mom doesn't have a mom -- that's it. I have kids ranging from college-age to kindergarten and it's really matter of fact in our house and I have deliberately kept it that way. To OP, people who don't have these kinds of relationships think that if you work hard, you can repair things. People who have experienced it understand that you can't always.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP it is so hard. I struggle with it constantly. I have no one to lean on. I get so jealous of my friends with moms who babysit, send care packages, bring soup when they are sick, let them be a brat every once in awhile and not judge them. I'm trying to be the mother I never had, but it is draining. I would love someone to love ME like I love my kids. It wasn't in the cards. I don't know how to tell you to cope, but know you aren't alone.

And to the poster with the deceased mother, I am so very sorry for you loss. I hope your happy memories bring you some comfort. I have none of those. Believe me when I say there are things in life worse than death.
I can relate to this post very much. My mom is still living, she lives about 4 hrs from me and has been to my house once. I can literally count on one hand the number of times she has called me in my entire adult life (I'm 37.) She's like a stranger in so many ways. If she weren't a facebook friend, we'd have no relationship. I don't think she's an inherently bad person, just very detached. I used to feel lonely and frankly unloved or at least unlucky when I was a kid and the other kids had parents who seemed to care about them, would go to school functions and sports games, or just say "I love you" to their kids. When I was very young I'd ask why so and so's mom did such and such and mine didn't and she would just say that kid was spoiled and no one would like them when they grow up. I'm currently TTC and I seriously doubt my children will have any relationship with my mom and I'm even debating whether to tell her when I do have a baby. My step dad was somewhat abusive/neglectful growing up and my mom worked swing shift so she was never around and when I would tell her about what he had done the night before she would either say it wasn't true or if she quit we'd have to go on welfare and it would be my fault. As far as I'm concerned she hasn't earned the right to be around any child of mine. A couple of months ago I took the 2 kids I nanny to my friend's house and she lives across the road from my parents. (The kids parents were out of town in another state.) I had taken both kids on a train w/ all of their things by myself for 3 hrs, arranged for my friend to meet us and then my mom wondered if I was going to visit them. I had gone all that way and she couldn't even bother to walk across the road (it's a little farther than just walking across the street.) I didn't visit because 1. I thought she should make some sort of effort 2. There wasn't any point to bringing someone else's kids for her to meet and 3. I don't think they've earned the right to be around kids. So my kids won't have any grandparents (my dad died of alcoholism when I was 14) and that's going to have to be OK.


You should report your step father and your mother because I don't believe, there is a statute of limitations on child sexual abuse. In face, I believe you have a moral obligation to do so because if he is still alive then he may well be abusing another child. If I had been your employer I would have fired you for putting my children that close to someone who allowed sexual abuse of children.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:sometimes you can't change things with your mother and you don't need to try. My mother is abusive to the point that her parents AND her priest told me to move on and stop trying to repair things. She is abusive and she will not change. She doesn't want to. I have moved on -- to my kids it's just mom doesn't have a mom -- that's it. I have kids ranging from college-age to kindergarten and it's really matter of fact in our house and I have deliberately kept it that way. To OP, people who don't have these kinds of relationships think that if you work hard, you can repair things. People who have experienced it understand that you can't always.


Still, you should try and it may not work but she will know that she tried.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, I mean this kindly, so please don't take it the wrong way. I am an actual motherless mother--my mother passed away twelve years ago. You still have the opportunity to repair relations with your mother; you are not truly motherless. As someone who knows what it is really like to have no mother, literally, please reapir things before it is too late.



Listen to this PP. You can change things if you try and you need to try.


That sounds a little judgmental actually. It's her fault and she's just not trying hard enough if her mother is not changing her ways? There comes a point where you just need to just let it go. And in cases where your health and the health of your children are at stake (as in the case with abusive parents) it's often in someone's best interest to let it go from the beginning.

Whether someone's mother passed away, or someone's mother is just neglectful, abusive, or simply absent they still are "motherless".
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