Loser Managers

[Anonymous]

So the meeting is being moved to tomorrow? The day immediately after the weekend, for which there will be no intervening day to work out scheduling?

The only note I'd have to the boss is to just schedule it and not ask permission. But if she thinks she needs to accommodate people's schedules, then yeah she needs to reach people over the weekend.

[Anonymous]

Pick a fight with her if you want to pick a fight. Seems like a weird fight to pick, but you know more about the likelihood that you'll get fired for it, how easy it would be to get a new job, and whether you can afford unemployment.

[Anonymous]

Why are you getting repeated texts of a non emergency issue on your personnel cell phone on a Sunday?

You need to bluntly tell her to stop or you'll document it as harassment.

Precisely none of my teammates/colleagues have my cell phone number because of this reason. You do not get my time attention or labor outsde of M-F, 8-4.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:a meeting moved and you're going to die on this hill?

Strange choice of a hill to die for...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:a meeting moved and you're going to die on this hill?

Strange choice of a hill to die for...

Pretty sure no one is dying, Karen.

OP- the manager is unserious and low IQ. Gray rock them.

[Anonymous]

This is like complaining about people who send email messages at night and on weekends. It's dumb. Text messages and email messages are asynchronous communication. The benefit is that they can be sent and responded to when doing so is convenient. Just because a message is sent at night/on a weekend does not mean that a response is required then.

Respond on Monday morning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pick a fight with her if you want to pick a fight. Seems like a weird fight to pick, but you know more about the likelihood that you'll get fired for it, how easy it would be to get a new job, and whether you can afford unemployment.

Objecting to intrusive interruptions that are not of an emergency nature is not something you want to fire people over unless you want to be sued.

A manager that has this much blatant disregard for colleagues' personnel life boundaries almost certainly overreaches/steps in many other areas that would make a harassment suit a slam dunk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:JFC a meeting moved and you're going to die on this hill?

either non profit or government worker.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is something urgent came up and your manager‘s private life and wanted to make sure it was going to work out as far as moving your meeting. If they don’t normally act like this, in your shoes, I would give the Grace I’m assuming some kind of extraordinary circumstance.

You sound like you really hate your manager, and you also sound a little petty because it would’ve taken very little for you to respond to the message once you saw it. I don’t understand why you were playing games about that.

Ehh, I think you're missing the point. It's about the interruption, not how little effort it takes to text back. It's also about boundaries and precedents. What's next? Expectation to answer work texts 7 days a week 365 days a year?

Do you call people at 2 am? I bet not. You don't because it's rude, not because it's 'hard' for the person youre calling to pick up the phone.

Ehh, I’m not missing the point. I said if they don’t normally act like this, I’d give this instance some grace. Sometimes people react very strangely when something bad suddenly comes up in their personal lives. Maybe this was that. I don’t see an inevitable jump from this to expecting 24/7 availability. I agree OP should definitely normally maintain boundaries.

But OP refers to her manager as a “loser,” which makes me think there’s an existing dislike on OP’s part.

OP here. My manager is a loser. They have no life. They have no hobbies. They have no partner. They have no kids. They routinely stay past 7 or 8 "because somebody has to get this all done!"

I explain to her that if work is causing her to stay for 15 hours a week extra, she is overloaded, not a martyr. I'm 51; my days of caring about my employer more than myself or my family are looooooooong over.

Again, we are not curing cancer. For purposes of this discussion, imagine us as manufacturers of toilet paper roll tubes. Life will go on if the entire team stays home for two weeks. It mght be hard for people in DC with an over inflated idea of their work's importance but we are not doing God's work or stopping sex trafficking. We make disposable household goods.

She makes loud passive aggressive comments about people 'leaving at the exact stroke of 5pm.' like all the time. She is clueless on how no one likes her.

Op, you sound bitter and judgmental. If you’ve already crossed the line to being bitter and mean, I think you should probably start looking for a new job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are you getting repeated texts of a non emergency issue on your personnel cell phone on a Sunday?

You need to bluntly tell her to stop or you'll document it as harassment.

Precisely none of my teammates/colleagues have my cell phone number because of this reason. You do not get my time attention or labor outsde of M-F, 8-4.

This is not harassment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pick a fight with her if you want to pick a fight. Seems like a weird fight to pick, but you know more about the likelihood that you'll get fired for it, how easy it would be to get a new job, and whether you can afford unemployment.

Objecting to intrusive interruptions that are not of an emergency nature is not something you want to fire people over unless you want to be sued.

A manager that has this much blatant disregard for colleagues' personnel life boundaries almost certainly overreaches/steps in many other areas that would make a harassment suit a slam dunk.

You should definitely take legal advice from this person, OP.

[Anonymous]

Weird flex

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JFC a meeting moved and you're going to die on this hill?

either non profit or government worker.

+1

Private sector workers are laughing at OP’s meltdown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are you getting repeated texts of a non emergency issue on your personnel cell phone on a Sunday?

You need to bluntly tell her to stop or you'll document it as harassment.

Precisely none of my teammates/colleagues have my cell phone number because of this reason. You do not get my time attention or labor outsde of M-F, 8-4.

This is not harassment.

This is 100% harassment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JFC a meeting moved and you're going to die on this hill?

either non profit or government worker.

OP already described their work and it's neither.

Back to grade school for you.