Why do parents from high FARMS school

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Low income students can't travel far. They have jobs and sibling care responsibilities. So if you put magnets in the high income schools, you basically siphon off highest resourced high performing students from the low income schools. The kids that are left have a very small cohort and the school can no longer sustain advanced coursework. It is truly better not to have a magnet at all
High income students already have advanced classes at their home schools.

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This. No more all county magnets. Focus resources on all the home schools so all kids have access to challenging course. And be ok that sometimes it's 10 kids in a hard class in some schools.


This I would be okay with. I wish they would just build up all of the county high schools. But the DCC parents seem very against this with the theory that their children haven't had equal access to classes even though they have the magnets and consortium. It's not magically better in the low FARMS school. They have classes with 35-40 students too. They don't deserve to get ignored or looked down upon just because they are in a different area of the county.
Anonymous
They should be ZERO arts programs. Those do not lead to employment.

The math, science magnets and IB programs should NOT be in the high FARMS schools
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Low income students can't travel far. They have jobs and sibling care responsibilities. So if you put magnets in the high income schools, you basically siphon off highest resourced high performing students from the low income schools. The kids that are left have a very small cohort and the school can no longer sustain advanced coursework. It is truly better not to have a magnet at all
High income students already have advanced classes at their home schools.

It

This. No more all county magnets. Focus resources on all the home schools so all kids have access to challenging course. And be ok that sometimes it's 10 kids in a hard class in some schools.


This I would be okay with. I wish they would just build up all of the county high schools. But the DCC parents seem very against this with the theory that their children haven't had equal access to classes even though they have the magnets and consortium. It's not magically better in the low FARMS school. They have classes with 35-40 students too. They don't deserve to get ignored or looked down upon just because they are in a different area of the county.


Magnets and consortiums have limited spots. Not everyone realizes that its an issue till they are at that school and its too late. Why shouldn't all kids get what your kids have?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:feel that the "academic" programs need to be at their school? This is not supposed to be about making these schools have equal FARMS rates, but rather about having equal acccess for all students in the county. For too long, Blair, which is located down in the bottom of the county and not close to most students, has held the programs with the big draw. Students choose not to go due to the long bus rides. Certainly, my child at Churchill would not consider it. Now they are trying to make it so all students are not too far away and adding more seats- this is a good thing. Do I think it is going to be hard to implement- yes. But I like the thinking. And I do not think that they need to consider FARMS rates when choosing which program is placed in each school. Existing teachers, space, and interest should dominate the thinking.


lol gotta be a troll to post something this uninformed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They should be ZERO arts programs. Those do not lead to employment.

The math, science magnets and IB programs should NOT be in the high FARMS schools


I disagree with you. The placement of the programs should be spread aruond the county, regardless of FARMS rates.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They should be ZERO arts programs. Those do not lead to employment.

The math, science magnets and IB programs should NOT be in the high FARMS schools


Then, lets remove all math and science at all schools since its not necessary.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:feel that the "academic" programs need to be at their school? This is not supposed to be about making these schools have equal FARMS rates, but rather about having equal acccess for all students in the county. For too long, Blair, which is located down in the bottom of the county and not close to most students, has held the programs with the big draw. Students choose not to go due to the long bus rides. Certainly, my child at Churchill would not consider it. Now they are trying to make it so all students are not too far away and adding more seats- this is a good thing. Do I think it is going to be hard to implement- yes. But I like the thinking. And I do not think that they need to consider FARMS rates when choosing which program is placed in each school. Existing teachers, space, and interest should dominate the thinking.


Putting high-demand academic programs in low-income schools is a time-tested strategy for raising the performance of the school and/or preventing families from leaving the area. That’s why the Blair magnet was placed there. Same with the RM magnet.

Placing high-demand academic programs in high-performing schools that already receive substantial community support is gilding the lily.


then why did the Kennedy IB program fail?

1. RM cluster boundary was redrawn when they put IB there. It included several wealthier areas.
2. RM is close to Wootton, WJ and Churchill so it's not much of a commute

Kennedy doesn't have rich areas, and it's further from the W schools. Traffic going east is horrendous in the morning.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They should be ZERO arts programs. Those do not lead to employment.

The math, science magnets and IB programs should NOT be in the high FARMS schools


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Low income students can't travel far. They have jobs and sibling care responsibilities. So if you put magnets in the high income schools, you basically siphon off highest resourced high performing students from the low income schools. The kids that are left have a very small cohort and the school can no longer sustain advanced coursework. It is truly better not to have a magnet at all
High income students already have advanced classes at their home schools.

It

This. No more all county magnets. Focus resources on all the home schools so all kids have access to challenging course. And be ok that sometimes it's 10 kids in a hard class in some schools.


This I would be okay with. I wish they would just build up all of the county high schools. But the DCC parents seem very against this with the theory that their children haven't had equal access to classes even though they have the magnets and consortium. It's not magically better in the low FARMS school. They have classes with 35-40 students too. They don't deserve to get ignored or looked down upon just because they are in a different area of the county.


You don't understand. DCC students HAVE to travel further to access the SAME classes that Whitman and BCC students have at their home school. The fear is they won't have access at all without the flexibility of the DCC. Classes in DCC schools are not smaller.

Demanding equity is not "looking down" on you. You are making this about you when your child gets more resources and opportunities than ours. I do judge you because you sound very self involved.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:feel that the "academic" programs need to be at their school? This is not supposed to be about making these schools have equal FARMS rates, but rather about having equal acccess for all students in the county. For too long, Blair, which is located down in the bottom of the county and not close to most students, has held the programs with the big draw. Students choose not to go due to the long bus rides. Certainly, my child at Churchill would not consider it. Now they are trying to make it so all students are not too far away and adding more seats- this is a good thing. Do I think it is going to be hard to implement- yes. But I like the thinking. And I do not think that they need to consider FARMS rates when choosing which program is placed in each school. Existing teachers, space, and interest should dominate the thinking.


Putting high-demand academic programs in low-income schools is a time-tested strategy for raising the performance of the school and/or preventing families from leaving the area. That’s why the Blair magnet was placed there. Same with the RM magnet.

Placing high-demand academic programs in high-performing schools that already receive substantial community support is gilding the lily.


then why did the Kennedy IB program fail?


IIRC, it became a regional magnet in 2020 or 2021. COVID made it hard to build it up in the first few years.

It's been 5 years. If you look at the home school of Kennedy IB cohort, very few are from the wealth areas.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Low income students can't travel far. They have jobs and sibling care responsibilities. So if you put magnets in the high income schools, you basically siphon off highest resourced high performing students from the low income schools. The kids that are left have a very small cohort and the school can no longer sustain advanced coursework. It is truly better not to have a magnet at all
High income students already have advanced classes at their home schools.

It

This. No more all county magnets. Focus resources on all the home schools so all kids have access to challenging course. And be ok that sometimes it's 10 kids in a hard class in some schools.


This I would be okay with. I wish they would just build up all of the county high schools. But the DCC parents seem very against this with the theory that their children haven't had equal access to classes even though they have the magnets and consortium. It's not magically better in the low FARMS school. They have classes with 35-40 students too. They don't deserve to get ignored or looked down upon just because they are in a different area of the county.




You don't understand. DCC students HAVE to travel further to access the SAME classes that Whitman and BCC students have at their home school. The fear is they won't have access at all without the flexibility of the DCC. Classes in DCC schools are not smaller.

Demanding equity is not "looking down" on you. You are making this about you when your child gets more resources and opportunities than ours. I do judge you because you sound very self involved.



And yet from my viewpoint, you are making this all about your child and not considering everyone in the county. I am not sayiing that every program needs to be at a low FARMS school, just that there should be a fair distribution.

I wish my child had access to child development classes because she would love that, but it is not offered at our school. I will welcome the opportunity to have niche programs that other students in the county can access. They don't need to be academic ones to draw students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Low income students can't travel far. They have jobs and sibling care responsibilities. So if you put magnets in the high income schools, you basically siphon off highest resourced high performing students from the low income schools. The kids that are left have a very small cohort and the school can no longer sustain advanced coursework. It is truly better not to have a magnet at all
High income students already have advanced classes at their home schools.

It

This. No more all county magnets. Focus resources on all the home schools so all kids have access to challenging course. And be ok that sometimes it's 10 kids in a hard class in some schools.


This I would be okay with. I wish they would just build up all of the county high schools. But the DCC parents seem very against this with the theory that their children haven't had equal access to classes even though they have the magnets and consortium. It's not magically better in the low FARMS school. They have classes with 35-40 students too. They don't deserve to get ignored or looked down upon just because they are in a different area of the county.


Magnets and consortiums have limited spots. Not everyone realizes that its an issue till they are at that school and its too late. Why shouldn't all kids get what your kids have?


The non-DCC school that my child attends does not have the magnet or other special programs that your DCC school has. And there are not enough seats in these programs for all the kids who would benefit (and some are DCC only) not to mention transportation challenges. The new model has some flaws for sure but it is an attempt to create more opportunity throughout the county for special programs while also investing in a core set of advanced classes at every single high school. That seems like a good approach even if it means change for the DCC and NEC.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Low income students can't travel far. They have jobs and sibling care responsibilities. So if you put magnets in the high income schools, you basically siphon off highest resourced high performing students from the low income schools. The kids that are left have a very small cohort and the school can no longer sustain advanced coursework. It is truly better not to have a magnet at all
High income students already have advanced classes at their home schools.

It

This. No more all county magnets. Focus resources on all the home schools so all kids have access to challenging course. And be ok that sometimes it's 10 kids in a hard class in some schools.


This I would be okay with. I wish they would just build up all of the county high schools. But the DCC parents seem very against this with the theory that their children haven't had equal access to classes even though they have the magnets and consortium. It's not magically better in the low FARMS school. They have classes with 35-40 students too. They don't deserve to get ignored or looked down upon just because they are in a different area of the county.




You don't understand. DCC students HAVE to travel further to access the SAME classes that Whitman and BCC students have at their home school. The fear is they won't have access at all without the flexibility of the DCC. Classes in DCC schools are not smaller.

Demanding equity is not "looking down" on you. You are making this about you when your child gets more resources and opportunities than ours. I do judge you because you sound very self involved.



And yet from my viewpoint, you are making this all about your child and not considering everyone in the county. I am not sayiing that every program needs to be at a low FARMS school, just that there should be a fair distribution.

I wish my child had access to child development classes because she would love that, but it is not offered at our school. I will welcome the opportunity to have niche programs that other students in the county can access. They don't need to be academic ones to draw students.


So the regional program will offer the same chances to access niche stuff. You only stand to gain from it while your child already has access to more than most have at their home schools. You are offended at the notion that advanced academic programs should be at low income schools, but don't want to acknowledge the assets your school does have.
Anonymous
Yeah rich biches we are ready to fight your greedy racist a$$3s
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yeah rich biches we are ready to fight your greedy racist a$$3s


How is this racist?
DCC people have lost their mind.
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