All Saints Day Holy Day of Obligation abrogated?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From our church:

"On November 1, we celebrate the Solemnity of All Saints, honoring all the saints in heaven. While it remains a Holy Day, the
obligation to attend Mass has been abrogated this year because it falls on a Saturday. All are still encouraged to attend Mass and
mark the day in prayer and thanksgiving."

Is this a new thing? When I was a kid, we'd have to go on a holy day of obligation even if it fell on a Saturday. The church would add a noon mass for that purpose (since 8am mass was the usual daily mass).

Yeah, but things change, ya know. These days people are more into convenience than religion, and having a holy day fall on a Saturday is very inconvenient.

Convert says what

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From our church:

"On November 1, we celebrate the Solemnity of All Saints, honoring all the saints in heaven. While it remains a Holy Day, the
obligation to attend Mass has been abrogated this year because it falls on a Saturday. All are still encouraged to attend Mass and
mark the day in prayer and thanksgiving."

Is this a new thing? When I was a kid, we'd have to go on a holy day of obligation even if it fell on a Saturday. The church would add a noon mass for that purpose (since 8am mass was the usual daily mass).

Yeah, but things change, ya know. These days people are more into convenience than religion, and having a holy day fall on a Saturday is very inconvenient.

Convert says what

not a convert

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not like the old days when churches had 5 priests. Most chuches now have 1-2 priests and they are often on the older size. Adding a holly day of obligation back to back with Sunday — in addition to all the weddings, funerals, confessions, announcing of sick that must take place on weekends — is really crushing for the priests. It’s less about the faithful being lazy and more about the church just being really stretched thin already. Give these poor guys a break! I remember seeing a priest that had done something like 7 masses in a 36 hour period because he was the only priest assigned to the parish. He stood up for the last homily and he looked like he was about to have a heart attack. He apologized and said he was too exhausted for a long homily so would get right to the point and said just love one another. And we all said a big Amen.

It sounds like going into the priesthood is not a god career move for good Catholic boys anymore. Maybe they're better off becoming social workers, but then they have to look after people of all religions and no religion at all - not just Catholics.

Catholic charities and ministries serve people of need regardless of those people’s religion or lack thereof.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a new thing. I remember dispensations when St Patrick's day fell on a Friday in Lent. etc.
https://onepeterfive.com/forgotten-customs-st-patricks-day/

Gotta let those good Irish Catholics drink!

The Friday dispensation is specifically for meat. It has nothing to do with drinking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a new thing. I remember dispensations when St Patrick's day fell on a Friday in Lent. etc.
https://onepeterfive.com/forgotten-customs-st-patricks-day/

Gotta let those good Irish Catholics drink!

The Friday dispensation is specifically for meat. It has nothing to do with drinking.

The previous post mentioned dispensations when St Patrick's day fell on a Friday in Lent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can they easily add Saturday masses? Isn’t that when most weddings are?

Yes, but they get the big bucks for those.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a new thing. I remember dispensations when St Patrick's day fell on a Friday in Lent. etc.
https://onepeterfive.com/forgotten-customs-st-patricks-day/

Gotta let those good Irish Catholics drink!

The Friday dispensation is specifically for meat. It has nothing to do with drinking.

The previous post mentioned dispensations when St Patrick's day fell on a Friday in Lent.

Yes, and those are dispensations specifically from the rule to not eat meat on Fridays. They have nothing to do with alcohol.

There is no prohibition on drinking alcohol in Lent. If someone has given up alcohol and wants to make an exception for St Patrick’s Day they will figure it out for themselves. Since giving something up for Lent, other than meat on Fridays, fasting on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday (note that these are partial fasts), and a few liturgical things in the Mass, is a personal choice and not a rule imposed by the church you would be asking yourself permission, and not asking for a dispensation.

It’s really sad when people come here and make up stuff about Catholics to strengthen stereotypes like that Irish Americans are drunkards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a new thing. I remember dispensations when St Patrick's day fell on a Friday in Lent. etc.
https://onepeterfive.com/forgotten-customs-st-patricks-day/

Gotta let those good Irish Catholics drink!

The Friday dispensation is specifically for meat. It has nothing to do with drinking.

The previous post mentioned dispensations when St Patrick's day fell on a Friday in Lent.

Yes, and those are dispensations specifically from the rule to not eat meat on Fridays. They have nothing to do with alcohol.

There is no prohibition on drinking alcohol in Lent. If someone has given up alcohol and wants to make an exception for St Patrick’s Day they will figure it out for themselves. Since giving something up for Lent, other than meat on Fridays, fasting on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday (note that these are partial fasts), and a few liturgical things in the Mass, is a personal choice and not a rule imposed by the church you would be asking yourself permission, and not asking for a dispensation.

It’s really sad when people come here and make up stuff about Catholics to strengthen stereotypes like that Irish Americans are drunkards.

To me, it's really sad when people come here mainly to call other people sad. It makes me more angry than sad and makes me suspicious that pp is an Irish person who drinks too much. But I really don't have any way of actually knowing that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a new thing. I remember dispensations when St Patrick's day fell on a Friday in Lent. etc.
https://onepeterfive.com/forgotten-customs-st-patricks-day/

Gotta let those good Irish Catholics drink!

The Friday dispensation is specifically for meat. It has nothing to do with drinking.

The previous post mentioned dispensations when St Patrick's day fell on a Friday in Lent.

Yes, and those are dispensations specifically from the rule to not eat meat on Fridays. They have nothing to do with alcohol.

There is no prohibition on drinking alcohol in Lent. If someone has given up alcohol and wants to make an exception for St Patrick’s Day they will figure it out for themselves. Since giving something up for Lent, other than meat on Fridays, fasting on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday (note that these are partial fasts), and a few liturgical things in the Mass, is a personal choice and not a rule imposed by the church you would be asking yourself permission, and not asking for a dispensation.

It’s really sad when people come here and make up stuff about Catholics to strengthen stereotypes like that Irish Americans are drunkards.

To me, it's really sad when people come here mainly to call other people sad. It makes me more angry than sad and makes me suspicious that pp is an Irish person who drinks too much. But I really don't have any way of actually knowing that.

They don’t. They come to respond to posts with incorrect information. Why would that make you sad, much less angry?