All Saints Day Holy Day of Obligation abrogated?

Anonymous
From our church:

"On November 1, we celebrate the Solemnity of All Saints, honoring all the saints in heaven. While it remains a Holy Day, the
obligation to attend Mass has been abrogated this year because it falls on a Saturday. All are still encouraged to attend Mass and
mark the day in prayer and thanksgiving."

Is this a new thing? When I was a kid, we'd have to go on a holy day of obligation even if it fell on a Saturday. The church would add a noon mass for that purpose (since 8am mass was the usual daily mass).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:From our church:

"On November 1, we celebrate the Solemnity of All Saints, honoring all the saints in heaven. While it remains a Holy Day, the
obligation to attend Mass has been abrogated this year because it falls on a Saturday. All are still encouraged to attend Mass and
mark the day in prayer and thanksgiving."

Is this a new thing? When I was a kid, we'd have to go on a holy day of obligation even if it fell on a Saturday. The church would add a noon mass for that purpose (since 8am mass was the usual daily mass).


Yeah, but things change, ya know. These days people are more into convenience than religion, and having a holy day fall on a Saturday is very inconvenient.
Anonymous
"The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB), with Holy See approval, established a rule in 1993 for how holy days are observed. Under this rule, for the Solemnity of Mary, Mother of God (January 1), the Assumption (August 15), and All Saints' Day (November 1), the Mass obligation is "abrogated" or canceled if the holy day falls on a Saturday or Monday. This rule did not apply to Christmas or the Immaculate Conception."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:"The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB), with Holy See approval, established a rule in 1993 for how holy days are observed. Under this rule, for the Solemnity of Mary, Mother of God (January 1), the Assumption (August 15), and All Saints' Day (November 1), the Mass obligation is "abrogated" or canceled if the holy day falls on a Saturday or Monday. This rule did not apply to Christmas or the Immaculate Conception."


Maybe the rule does not apply to Christmas or the Immaculate Conception because they're too important.
Anonymous
depends on the holiday, day of the week, and the dioceses. there will still be mass if you want to go.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From our church:

"On November 1, we celebrate the Solemnity of All Saints, honoring all the saints in heaven. While it remains a Holy Day, the
obligation to attend Mass has been abrogated this year because it falls on a Saturday. All are still encouraged to attend Mass and
mark the day in prayer and thanksgiving."

Is this a new thing? When I was a kid, we'd have to go on a holy day of obligation even if it fell on a Saturday. The church would add a noon mass for that purpose (since 8am mass was the usual daily mass).


Yeah, but things change, ya know. These days people are more into convenience than religion, and having a holy day fall on a Saturday is very inconvenient.


This is another reason why religion is a scam
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From our church:

"On November 1, we celebrate the Solemnity of All Saints, honoring all the saints in heaven. While it remains a Holy Day, the
obligation to attend Mass has been abrogated this year because it falls on a Saturday. All are still encouraged to attend Mass and
mark the day in prayer and thanksgiving."

Is this a new thing? When I was a kid, we'd have to go on a holy day of obligation even if it fell on a Saturday. The church would add a noon mass for that purpose (since 8am mass was the usual daily mass).


Yeah, but things change, ya know. These days people are more into convenience than religion, and having a holy day fall on a Saturday is very inconvenient.


This is another reason why religion is a scam


correct
Anonymous
Can they easily add Saturday masses? Isn’t that when most weddings are?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Can they easily add Saturday masses? Isn’t that when most weddings are?


Presumably the church can just not take any weddings when they plan to have mass. These dates of holy obligation are known years in advance.
Anonymous
It’s not like the old days when churches had 5 priests. Most chuches now have 1-2 priests and they are often on the older size. Adding a holly day of obligation back to back with Sunday — in addition to all the weddings, funerals, confessions, announcing of sick that must take place on weekends — is really crushing for the priests. It’s less about the faithful being lazy and more about the church just being really stretched thin already. Give these poor guys a break! I remember seeing a priest that had done something like 7 masses in a 36 hour period because he was the only priest assigned to the parish. He stood up for the last homily and he looked like he was about to have a heart attack. He apologized and said he was too exhausted for a long homily so would get right to the point and said just love one another. And we all said a big Amen.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s not like the old days when churches had 5 priests. Most chuches now have 1-2 priests and they are often on the older size. Adding a holly day of obligation back to back with Sunday — in addition to all the weddings, funerals, confessions, announcing of sick that must take place on weekends — is really crushing for the priests. It’s less about the faithful being lazy and more about the church just being really stretched thin already. Give these poor guys a break! I remember seeing a priest that had done something like 7 masses in a 36 hour period because he was the only priest assigned to the parish. He stood up for the last homily and he looked like he was about to have a heart attack. He apologized and said he was too exhausted for a long homily so would get right to the point and said just love one another. And we all said a big Amen.


So you're suggesting that the All Saint's day obligation was called off for the Priests' sake?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s not like the old days when churches had 5 priests. Most chuches now have 1-2 priests and they are often on the older size. Adding a holly day of obligation back to back with Sunday — in addition to all the weddings, funerals, confessions, announcing of sick that must take place on weekends — is really crushing for the priests. It’s less about the faithful being lazy and more about the church just being really stretched thin already. Give these poor guys a break! I remember seeing a priest that had done something like 7 masses in a 36 hour period because he was the only priest assigned to the parish. He stood up for the last homily and he looked like he was about to have a heart attack. He apologized and said he was too exhausted for a long homily so would get right to the point and said just love one another. And we all said a big Amen.


It sounds like going into the priesthood is not a god career move for good Catholic boys anymore. Maybe they're better off becoming social workers, but then they have to look after people of all religions and no religion at all - not just Catholics.
Anonymous
Not a new thing. I remember dispensations when St Patrick's day fell on a Friday in Lent. etc.
https://onepeterfive.com/forgotten-customs-st-patricks-day/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not a new thing. I remember dispensations when St Patrick's day fell on a Friday in Lent. etc.
https://onepeterfive.com/forgotten-customs-st-patricks-day/


Gotta let those good Irish Catholics drink!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not a new thing. I remember dispensations when St Patrick's day fell on a Friday in Lent. etc.
https://onepeterfive.com/forgotten-customs-st-patricks-day/


Gotta let those good Irish Catholics drink!


And eat their corned beef!
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