Chatgpt common app essay blew me away..

[Anonymous]

I prompted it with a metaphor and theme. fed it the extra curriculars and told it 650 words. It gave me a rough draft that was 80% there.

I think it evens the playing field

[Anonymous]

OP, why do you post a smiley face? I pray my child doesn’t have you as a teacher.

[Anonymous]

My kid's public school AP Lang teacher has a zero AI policy. I am glad for the hard stance.

The purpose of writing training is to learn to write well without something else doing the work for you.

It's sad if leveling the playing field means everyone can turn in something that approximately AI slop.

[Anonymous]

^approximates

[Anonymous]

Usually if an essay is too good, too mature, you know it is fake or at least suspect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They're have to hand write in pen soon.

In a human proctored examination hall, no less.

I actually love this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're have to hand write in pen soon.

In a human proctored examination hall, no less.

I actually love this.

I have one kid with dysgraphia and another kid who permanently damaged their dominant hand tendons playing a sport so I don’t love this.
I grew up hating handwriting and taught myself to speed type at 12 so never really hand write anything after that—this was in the 80s. I can remember running my hand under hot water it hurt so much after an essay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid's public school AP Lang teacher has a zero AI policy. I am glad for the hard stance.

The purpose of writing training is to learn to write well without something else doing the work for you.

It's sad if leveling the playing field means everyone can turn in something that approximately AI slop.

Sane with ours- AP Lang & AP Lit. And he really works hard with the kids on actual teaching—essay re-writes when he hands back a C which is pretty much an average essay grade- but then teaches what they need to do- gives feedback, etc. Also- first quarter are always the lowest grade while they are first learning. They do a lot if in-class writing.

[Anonymous]

What is interesting is that this is encouraging students not to revise.

My son wrote a college admission essay last year that was heartfelt but had several errors and sentence structure /vocabulary that could be improved. I looked at it but he didn't want me to proofread it and point out the errors. He said that is the way he writes and he was well aware he could put it into ChatGPT and it would correct all the errors and improve several things. He submitted it the way he wrote it and he surprisingly got admitted into some college that on paper he was in the lower range of the stats for the school. Now I wonder if admission readers were happy to read an unpolished essay that was absolutely clear the student wrote without any help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is interesting is that this is encouraging students not to revise.

My son wrote a college admission essay last year that was heartfelt but had several errors and sentence structure /vocabulary that could be improved. I looked at it but he didn't want me to proofread it and point out the errors. He said that is the way he writes and he was well aware he could put it into ChatGPT and it would correct all the errors and improve several things. He submitted it the way he wrote it and he surprisingly got admitted into some college that on paper he was in the lower range of the stats for the school. Now I wonder if admission readers were happy to read an unpolished essay that was absolutely clear the student wrote without any help.

I’ve read in multiple places that they are looking for less than perfect grammar, including lack of the use of the Oxford, period less than perfect sentence structure. It shows them that you have not used AI.

[Anonymous]

Yes, teachers are known to spend their Saturdays on DCUM, especially in the college forum.

People are so gullible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid's public school AP Lang teacher has a zero AI policy. I am glad for the hard stance.

The purpose of writing training is to learn to write well without something else doing the work for you.

It's sad if leveling the playing field means everyone can turn in something that approximately AI slop.

Sure. But college applications at our school are done outside of class. You can have 4 years of non-AI writing. That’s fine w me

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're have to hand write in pen soon.

In a human proctored examination hall, no less.

I actually love this.

In a human proctored exam hall there is no need for the pen. Students can use locked down devices the same way they do for the PSAT and plenty of other assessments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, teachers are known to spend their Saturdays on DCUM, especially in the college forum.

People are so gullible.

Yes how silly! We all know its just government workers like you scrolling and posting!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, teachers are known to spend their Saturdays on DCUM, especially in the college forum.

People are so gullible.

Yes how silly! We all know its just government workers like you scrolling and posting!

Actually - both teachers AND government workers can be striver helicopter moms. But mostly its the lawyers. But none have a monopoly on maintaining an obsessive focus on their kids applications