UCL accepted too many foreign students

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your US kid attending would also be an international student, so maybe tone down the xenophobia.

It's shocking. I'm French and my children are US and French citizens. The xenophobia has significantly increased since Trump came to power, but it was always present in a low-key way on the College Forum.

The future of the world is global, no matter what ultra-nationalists say.

[Anonymous]

The xenophobia has always been present, its just that a lot of people in society understand that it is ugly to show it. What Trump has done is make it seem acceptable.

Which it still is not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The xenophobia has always been present, its just that a lot of people in society understand that it is ugly to show it. What Trump has done is make it seem acceptable.

Which it still is not.

Agree. However universities have created a problem with letting 80% of the international students come from just two countries. There is also a very large problem with sophisticated cheating rings, completely fabricated applications and entire industries in China and India supporting this. It’s unfair to US students and other international students.

Student visas should be restricted in number and by country by institution. A much smaller number should be allowed at universities that are turning away qualified US students. Universities that are having trouble filling seats should be able to file to increase their quota. These changes should be made in a rationale way allowing universities and students to plan.

[Anonymous]

I agree. This is no xenophobia. It is common sense. When 30% of a UK uni are comprised of Chinese students something is wrong.

UK unis attract a lot more Chinese and Indians than anything else.

I’m English and I understand the need to for international students, but 30% from one nationality is ridiculous and NOT diverse or global in anyway,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LSE and UCL are the worst offenders. LSE is 70% international….. I guess they have to pay London bills somehow….

Thought LSE was a travel agency that issued diplomas

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Its all over today's news in the UK that UCL made too many offers to foreign students. They exceeded their UK Foreign Office quota for student visas, so some students are being told they cannot attend this fall. It is a huge mess.

Apparently the primary cause is that the PRC applicant contingent had a much higher yield than expected.

Those students should just attend as undocumented students. What's stopping that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of under enrolled American colleges which could benefit from full pay Chinese students.

Very true but Chinese students and/or their parents are savvy consumers and want the top colleges for their kids, not middling ones.

They also want the stem universities so they csn steal US research and send it back to the ccp?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LSE and UCL are the worst offenders. LSE is 70% international….. I guess they have to pay London bills somehow….

Thought LSE was a travel agency that issued diplomas

How to show your complete and absolute ignorance.
LSE is regularly in the top 3 (or top 5) universities in the UK,
alongside Oxford and Cambridge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The xenophobia has always been present, its just that a lot of people in society understand that it is ugly to show it. What Trump has done is make it seem acceptable.

Which it still is not.

Agree. However universities have created a problem with letting 80% of the international students come from just two countries. There is also a very large problem with sophisticated cheating rings, completely fabricated applications and entire industries in China and India supporting this. It’s unfair to US students and other international students.

Student visas should be restricted in number and by country by institution. A much smaller number should be allowed at universities that are turning away qualified US students. Universities that are having trouble filling seats should be able to file to increase their quota. These changes should be made in a rationale way allowing universities and students to plan.

I've never heard of a large-scale cheating scandal with A levels in either India or China. Please fill me in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of under enrolled American colleges which could benefit from full pay Chinese students.

Very true but Chinese students and/or their parents are savvy consumers and want the top colleges for their kids, not middling ones.

They also want the stem universities so they csn steal US research and send it back to the ccp?

research is published publicly. What's there to steal? The most impressive and valuable research is coming out of AI labs, not universities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LSE and UCL are the worst offenders. LSE is 70% international….. I guess they have to pay London bills somehow….

Thought LSE was a travel agency that issued diplomas

How to show your complete and absolute ignorance.
LSE is regularly in the top 3 (or top 5) universities in the UK,
alongside Oxford and Cambridge.

Only in economics, IMO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LSE and UCL are the worst offenders. LSE is 70% international….. I guess they have to pay London bills somehow….

Thought LSE was a travel agency that issued diplomas

How to show your complete and absolute ignorance.
LSE is regularly in the top 3 (or top 5) universities in the UK,
alongside Oxford and Cambridge.

Only in economics, IMO.

Well there's plenty of ranking lists, UK ones and international ones and then there's your singular opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The xenophobia has always been present, its just that a lot of people in society understand that it is ugly to show it. What Trump has done is make it seem acceptable.

Which it still is not.

Agree. However universities have created a problem with letting 80% of the international students come from just two countries. There is also a very large problem with sophisticated cheating rings, completely fabricated applications and entire industries in China and India supporting this. It’s unfair to US students and other international students.

Student visas should be restricted in number and by country by institution. A much smaller number should be allowed at universities that are turning away qualified US students. Universities that are having trouble filling seats should be able to file to increase their quota. These changes should be made in a rationale way allowing universities and students to plan.

I've never heard of a large-scale cheating scandal with A levels in either India or China. Please fill me in.

Not A levels but…

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/5-australian-universities-restrict-indian-students-amid-surge-in-fraud-applications-3959175/amp/1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of under enrolled American colleges which could benefit from full pay Chinese students.

Very true but Chinese students and/or their parents are savvy consumers and want the top colleges for their kids, not middling ones.

They also want the stem universities so they csn steal US research and send it back to the ccp?

What US research?
China is way ahead of US in research.

Chinese students come to USA to get capitalism money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your US kid attending would also be an international student, so maybe tone down the xenophobia.

It's shocking. I'm French and my children are US and French citizens. The xenophobia has significantly increased since Trump came to power, but it was always present in a low-key way on the College Forum.

The future of the world is global, no matter what ultra-nationalists say.

You can always count on the French poster to pop in and hold her nose up. She’s relentless.