Is it normal for grade11 to stay until near 12am?

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Anonymous wrote:Teach your kid to finish most of the homework at school. My kids did their homework in the classroom, during lunch, on the school bus. And they were in competitive magnet STEM program.

This.

Most kids are given a lot of time during the school day to be free. If your kid goofs off, socializes or zones out it is a missed opportunity.

Have two in high school and both go to bed 9:45-10:30 timeframe. They also are really good about when they get home from sports finishing up any work they did not get done during the day.

Might depend on the classes. As far as I can tell, this doesn't seem to be how DD's classes have been working. Her math class for instance, assigns about 15 pages of problems each session, on average. And the teacher gets super pissed if the kids start working on this in class, instead of focusing on whatever she's asking them to do. One of her other classes on that day assigns about a chapter of reading a week (40-50 pages) and about 45 problems a week. The third one is just note taking, so it's usually only about 20-30 pages per session. When you add in all the quizzes and tests, there is no earthly way to prep for everything during the school day; the only "free time" she has is about 45 minutes every other day during advisory, and once she starts tutoring for honor society, that's gone as well. As it is, she's usually doing her work in the car on her way to places, and still ends up having to stay up late some nights.

+1 we see this too for our kid. The amount of time and effort stuff ends up taking is far more than the time offered in class, but usually they don’t get any class time. If they do it’s not enough to finish whatever monster task (which ends up being formative anyway). They really need to stop the busy work and just get back to lectures, note taking and reading and then quiz or test. It’s too much.

Yes.

And the learning seminars (study hall) are mostly taken up by district mandated lessons on equity topics

There isn't really a lot of time to work on homework at school.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teach your kid to finish most of the homework at school. My kids did their homework in the classroom, during lunch, on the school bus. And they were in competitive magnet STEM program.

This.

Most kids are given a lot of time during the school day to be free. If your kid goofs off, socializes or zones out it is a missed opportunity.

Have two in high school and both go to bed 9:45-10:30 timeframe. They also are really good about when they get home from sports finishing up any work they did not get done during the day.

Might depend on the classes. As far as I can tell, this doesn't seem to be how DD's classes have been working. Her math class for instance, assigns about 15 pages of problems each session, on average. And the teacher gets super pissed if the kids start working on this in class, instead of focusing on whatever she's asking them to do. One of her other classes on that day assigns about a chapter of reading a week (40-50 pages) and about 45 problems a week. The third one is just note taking, so it's usually only about 20-30 pages per session. When you add in all the quizzes and tests, there is no earthly way to prep for everything during the school day; the only "free time" she has is about 45 minutes every other day during advisory, and once she starts tutoring for honor society, that's gone as well. As it is, she's usually doing her work in the car on her way to places, and still ends up having to stay up late some nights.

+1 we see this too for our kid. The amount of time and effort stuff ends up taking is far more than the time offered in class, but usually they don’t get any class time. If they do it’s not enough to finish whatever monster task (which ends up being formative anyway). They really need to stop the busy work and just get back to lectures, note taking and reading and then quiz or test. It’s too much.

Yes.

And the learning seminars (study hall) are mostly taken up by district mandated lessons on equity topics

There isn't really a lot of time to work on homework at school.

I disagree. Sorry.

This is time management and I have seen that all kids who are in magnet tracks from ES, learn time and project management for their academics. Unfortunately, I do not see this with the regular school kids.

Even if some kids come to a magnet program in HS, without learning these skills in ES and MS, they will feel enormous pressure because they have not learned to use the small bits of time throughout the school day to finish their work. Mainly, they cannot look at homework or a project and discern how to breakdown the whole homework in discrete pieces, what the sequence of work should be, and where the dependences are. They cannot prioritize work and they cannot figure out how to use the free time in the school day to finish parts of homework.

These kids are also great in identifying low priority, low impact, low value busy work - which often gets assigned by poorly prepared, not too intelligent, and lazy teachers - and they usually sit with their peers and divvy up this work to divide and conquer.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teach your kid to finish most of the homework at school. My kids did their homework in the classroom, during lunch, on the school bus. And they were in competitive magnet STEM program.

This.

Most kids are given a lot of time during the school day to be free. If your kid goofs off, socializes or zones out it is a missed opportunity.

Have two in high school and both go to bed 9:45-10:30 timeframe. They also are really good about when they get home from sports finishing up any work they did not get done during the day.

Might depend on the classes. As far as I can tell, this doesn't seem to be how DD's classes have been working. Her math class for instance, assigns about 15 pages of problems each session, on average. And the teacher gets super pissed if the kids start working on this in class, instead of focusing on whatever she's asking them to do. One of her other classes on that day assigns about a chapter of reading a week (40-50 pages) and about 45 problems a week. The third one is just note taking, so it's usually only about 20-30 pages per session. When you add in all the quizzes and tests, there is no earthly way to prep for everything during the school day; the only "free time" she has is about 45 minutes every other day during advisory, and once she starts tutoring for honor society, that's gone as well. As it is, she's usually doing her work in the car on her way to places, and still ends up having to stay up late some nights.

+1 we see this too for our kid. The amount of time and effort stuff ends up taking is far more than the time offered in class, but usually they don’t get any class time. If they do it’s not enough to finish whatever monster task (which ends up being formative anyway). They really need to stop the busy work and just get back to lectures, note taking and reading and then quiz or test. It’s too much.

Yes.

And the learning seminars (study hall) are mostly taken up by district mandated lessons on equity topics

There isn't really a lot of time to work on homework at school.

I disagree. Sorry.

This is time management and I have seen that all kids who are in magnet tracks from ES, learn time and project management for their academics. Unfortunately, I do not see this with the regular school kids.

Even if some kids come to a magnet program in HS, without learning these skills in ES and MS, they will feel enormous pressure because they have not learned to use the small bits of time throughout the school day to finish their work. Mainly, they cannot look at homework or a project and discern how to breakdown the whole homework in discrete pieces, what the sequence of work should be, and where the dependences are. They cannot prioritize work and they cannot figure out how to use the free time in the school day to finish parts of homework.

These kids are also great in identifying low priority, low impact, low value busy work - which often gets assigned by poorly prepared, not too intelligent, and lazy teachers - and they usually sit with their peers and divvy up this work to divide and conquer.

I have no idea what on earth you're talking about (Magnet tracks? Is that some sort of code for AAP?). DD's teachers expect homework to be done at home. There is no time during the class time to do homework, because that time is taken up by classwork. Just the math homework takes several hours. There is no way to carve out several hours during the school day to complete that work, and that's just one class. As I said previously, she gets 45 minutes or so of "free" time every other day, during advisory. That's hardly enough to get through the work for one class, never mind all the rest of them. Pretty much none of the work she is assigned can be categorized as busywork. It's imperative that she does them, because that's practice for quizzes and tests.

DD is well organized, doesn't have any processing difficulties, or other learning related challenges. She just has a mountain of work, and sometimes, getting everything done in a timely manner means she's up late. She is hardly alone, because her friends are also in similar positions. These are academically strong kids, and what they're going through is not because they aren't well organized, or have time management problems. There is just a lot of work.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teach your kid to finish most of the homework at school. My kids did their homework in the classroom, during lunch, on the school bus. And they were in competitive magnet STEM program.

This.

Most kids are given a lot of time during the school day to be free. If your kid goofs off, socializes or zones out it is a missed opportunity.

Have two in high school and both go to bed 9:45-10:30 timeframe. They also are really good about when they get home from sports finishing up any work they did not get done during the day.

Might depend on the classes. As far as I can tell, this doesn't seem to be how DD's classes have been working. Her math class for instance, assigns about 15 pages of problems each session, on average. And the teacher gets super pissed if the kids start working on this in class, instead of focusing on whatever she's asking them to do. One of her other classes on that day assigns about a chapter of reading a week (40-50 pages) and about 45 problems a week. The third one is just note taking, so it's usually only about 20-30 pages per session. When you add in all the quizzes and tests, there is no earthly way to prep for everything during the school day; the only "free time" she has is about 45 minutes every other day during advisory, and once she starts tutoring for honor society, that's gone as well. As it is, she's usually doing her work in the car on her way to places, and still ends up having to stay up late some nights.

+1 we see this too for our kid. The amount of time and effort stuff ends up taking is far more than the time offered in class, but usually they don’t get any class time. If they do it’s not enough to finish whatever monster task (which ends up being formative anyway). They really need to stop the busy work and just get back to lectures, note taking and reading and then quiz or test. It’s too much.

Yes.

And the learning seminars (study hall) are mostly taken up by district mandated lessons on equity topics

There isn't really a lot of time to work on homework at school.

I disagree. Sorry.

This is time management and I have seen that all kids who are in magnet tracks from ES, learn time and project management for their academics. Unfortunately, I do not see this with the regular school kids.

Even if some kids come to a magnet program in HS, without learning these skills in ES and MS, they will feel enormous pressure because they have not learned to use the small bits of time throughout the school day to finish their work. Mainly, they cannot look at homework or a project and discern how to breakdown the whole homework in discrete pieces, what the sequence of work should be, and where the dependences are. They cannot prioritize work and they cannot figure out how to use the free time in the school day to finish parts of homework.

These kids are also great in identifying low priority, low impact, low value busy work - which often gets assigned by poorly prepared, not too intelligent, and lazy teachers - and they usually sit with their peers and divvy up this work to divide and conquer.

NP. No, the kids aren’t just “bad at time management.” They have a ton of work. It takes time to complete. Way more time than they have at school, even if they are very efficient. Especially in older high school grades when they take 5+ AP classes. Also, nice of you to call teachers lazy and stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:Teach your kid to finish most of the homework at school. My kids did their homework in the classroom, during lunch, on the school bus. And they were in competitive magnet STEM program.

This.

Most kids are given a lot of time during the school day to be free. If your kid goofs off, socializes or zones out it is a missed opportunity.

Have two in high school and both go to bed 9:45-10:30 timeframe. They also are really good about when they get home from sports finishing up any work they did not get done during the day.

God forbid kids waste their time socializing at school.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teach your kid to finish most of the homework at school. My kids did their homework in the classroom, during lunch, on the school bus. And they were in competitive magnet STEM program.

This.

Most kids are given a lot of time during the school day to be free. If your kid goofs off, socializes or zones out it is a missed opportunity.

Have two in high school and both go to bed 9:45-10:30 timeframe. They also are really good about when they get home from sports finishing up any work they did not get done during the day.

Might depend on the classes. As far as I can tell, this doesn't seem to be how DD's classes have been working. Her math class for instance, assigns about 15 pages of problems each session, on average. And the teacher gets super pissed if the kids start working on this in class, instead of focusing on whatever she's asking them to do. One of her other classes on that day assigns about a chapter of reading a week (40-50 pages) and about 45 problems a week. The third one is just note taking, so it's usually only about 20-30 pages per session. When you add in all the quizzes and tests, there is no earthly way to prep for everything during the school day; the only "free time" she has is about 45 minutes every other day during advisory, and once she starts tutoring for honor society, that's gone as well. As it is, she's usually doing her work in the car on her way to places, and still ends up having to stay up late some nights.

+1 we see this too for our kid. The amount of time and effort stuff ends up taking is far more than the time offered in class, but usually they don’t get any class time. If they do it’s not enough to finish whatever monster task (which ends up being formative anyway). They really need to stop the busy work and just get back to lectures, note taking and reading and then quiz or test. It’s too much.

Yes.

And the learning seminars (study hall) are mostly taken up by district mandated lessons on equity topics

There isn't really a lot of time to work on homework at school.

I disagree. Sorry.

This is time management and I have seen that all kids who are in magnet tracks from ES, learn time and project management for their academics. Unfortunately, I do not see this with the regular school kids.

Even if some kids come to a magnet program in HS, without learning these skills in ES and MS, they will feel enormous pressure because they have not learned to use the small bits of time throughout the school day to finish their work. Mainly, they cannot look at homework or a project and discern how to breakdown the whole homework in discrete pieces, what the sequence of work should be, and where the dependences are. They cannot prioritize work and they cannot figure out how to use the free time in the school day to finish parts of homework.

These kids are also great in identifying low priority, low impact, low value busy work - which often gets assigned by poorly prepared, not too intelligent, and lazy teachers - and they usually sit with their peers and divvy up this work to divide and conquer.

I have no idea what on earth you're talking about (Magnet tracks? Is that some sort of code for AAP?). DD's teachers expect homework to be done at home. There is no time during the class time to do homework, because that time is taken up by classwork. Just the math homework takes several hours. There is no way to carve out several hours during the school day to complete that work, and that's just one class. As I said previously, she gets 45 minutes or so of "free" time every other day, during advisory. That's hardly enough to get through the work for one class, never mind all the rest of them. Pretty much none of the work she is assigned can be categorized as busywork. It's imperative that she does them, because that's practice for quizzes and tests.

DD is well organized, doesn't have any processing difficulties, or other learning related challenges. She just has a mountain of work, and sometimes, getting everything done in a timely manner means she's up late. She is hardly alone, because her friends are also in similar positions. These are academically strong kids, and what they're going through is not because they aren't well organized, or have time management problems. There is just a lot of work.

+1 I also notice teachers expect kids to be working on weekends as well. They assign brand new tasks on Friday due the next class period. They never give the kids a break!

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No, that’s terrible. They need sleep.
Should be doing homework as soon as they get home and finish before doing anything else (other than dinner).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teach your kid to finish most of the homework at school. My kids did their homework in the classroom, during lunch, on the school bus. And they were in competitive magnet STEM program.

This.

Most kids are given a lot of time during the school day to be free. If your kid goofs off, socializes or zones out it is a missed opportunity.

Have two in high school and both go to bed 9:45-10:30 timeframe. They also are really good about when they get home from sports finishing up any work they did not get done during the day.

Might depend on the classes. As far as I can tell, this doesn't seem to be how DD's classes have been working. Her math class for instance, assigns about 15 pages of problems each session, on average. And the teacher gets super pissed if the kids start working on this in class, instead of focusing on whatever she's asking them to do. One of her other classes on that day assigns about a chapter of reading a week (40-50 pages) and about 45 problems a week. The third one is just note taking, so it's usually only about 20-30 pages per session. When you add in all the quizzes and tests, there is no earthly way to prep for everything during the school day; the only "free time" she has is about 45 minutes every other day during advisory, and once she starts tutoring for honor society, that's gone as well. As it is, she's usually doing her work in the car on her way to places, and still ends up having to stay up late some nights.

+1 we see this too for our kid. The amount of time and effort stuff ends up taking is far more than the time offered in class, but usually they don’t get any class time. If they do it’s not enough to finish whatever monster task (which ends up being formative anyway). They really need to stop the busy work and just get back to lectures, note taking and reading and then quiz or test. It’s too much.

Yes.

And the learning seminars (study hall) are mostly taken up by district mandated lessons on equity topics

There isn't really a lot of time to work on homework at school.

I disagree. Sorry.

This is time management and I have seen that all kids who are in magnet tracks from ES, learn time and project management for their academics. Unfortunately, I do not see this with the regular school kids.

Even if some kids come to a magnet program in HS, without learning these skills in ES and MS, they will feel enormous pressure because they have not learned to use the small bits of time throughout the school day to finish their work. Mainly, they cannot look at homework or a project and discern how to breakdown the whole homework in discrete pieces, what the sequence of work should be, and where the dependences are. They cannot prioritize work and they cannot figure out how to use the free time in the school day to finish parts of homework.

These kids are also great in identifying low priority, low impact, low value busy work - which often gets assigned by poorly prepared, not too intelligent, and lazy teachers - and they usually sit with their peers and divvy up this work to divide and conquer.

How can you disagree about the learning seminars mostly being taken up by district mandated equity lessons?

That is a fact.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teach your kid to finish most of the homework at school. My kids did their homework in the classroom, during lunch, on the school bus. And they were in competitive magnet STEM program.

This.

Most kids are given a lot of time during the school day to be free. If your kid goofs off, socializes or zones out it is a missed opportunity.

Have two in high school and both go to bed 9:45-10:30 timeframe. They also are really good about when they get home from sports finishing up any work they did not get done during the day.

Might depend on the classes. As far as I can tell, this doesn't seem to be how DD's classes have been working. Her math class for instance, assigns about 15 pages of problems each session, on average. And the teacher gets super pissed if the kids start working on this in class, instead of focusing on whatever she's asking them to do. One of her other classes on that day assigns about a chapter of reading a week (40-50 pages) and about 45 problems a week. The third one is just note taking, so it's usually only about 20-30 pages per session. When you add in all the quizzes and tests, there is no earthly way to prep for everything during the school day; the only "free time" she has is about 45 minutes every other day during advisory, and once she starts tutoring for honor society, that's gone as well. As it is, she's usually doing her work in the car on her way to places, and still ends up having to stay up late some nights.

+1 we see this too for our kid. The amount of time and effort stuff ends up taking is far more than the time offered in class, but usually they don’t get any class time. If they do it’s not enough to finish whatever monster task (which ends up being formative anyway). They really need to stop the busy work and just get back to lectures, note taking and reading and then quiz or test. It’s too much.

Yes.

And the learning seminars (study hall) are mostly taken up by district mandated lessons on equity topics

There isn't really a lot of time to work on homework at school.

I disagree. Sorry.

This is time management and I have seen that all kids who are in magnet tracks from ES, learn time and project management for their academics. Unfortunately, I do not see this with the regular school kids.

Even if some kids come to a magnet program in HS, without learning these skills in ES and MS, they will feel enormous pressure because they have not learned to use the small bits of time throughout the school day to finish their work. Mainly, they cannot look at homework or a project and discern how to breakdown the whole homework in discrete pieces, what the sequence of work should be, and where the dependences are. They cannot prioritize work and they cannot figure out how to use the free time in the school day to finish parts of homework.

These kids are also great in identifying low priority, low impact, low value busy work - which often gets assigned by poorly prepared, not too intelligent, and lazy teachers - and they usually sit with their peers and divvy up this work to divide and conquer.

From your post it sounds like you are a parent of elementary school students, perhaps elementary AAP center kids?

High school is different. Wait until your kids are older.

How can you disagree about learning seminar topics when you don't have kids in high school?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teach your kid to finish most of the homework at school. My kids did their homework in the classroom, during lunch, on the school bus. And they were in competitive magnet STEM program.

This.

Most kids are given a lot of time during the school day to be free. If your kid goofs off, socializes or zones out it is a missed opportunity.

Have two in high school and both go to bed 9:45-10:30 timeframe. They also are really good about when they get home from sports finishing up any work they did not get done during the day.

Might depend on the classes. As far as I can tell, this doesn't seem to be how DD's classes have been working. Her math class for instance, assigns about 15 pages of problems each session, on average. And the teacher gets super pissed if the kids start working on this in class, instead of focusing on whatever she's asking them to do. One of her other classes on that day assigns about a chapter of reading a week (40-50 pages) and about 45 problems a week. The third one is just note taking, so it's usually only about 20-30 pages per session. When you add in all the quizzes and tests, there is no earthly way to prep for everything during the school day; the only "free time" she has is about 45 minutes every other day during advisory, and once she starts tutoring for honor society, that's gone as well. As it is, she's usually doing her work in the car on her way to places, and still ends up having to stay up late some nights.

+1 we see this too for our kid. The amount of time and effort stuff ends up taking is far more than the time offered in class, but usually they don’t get any class time. If they do it’s not enough to finish whatever monster task (which ends up being formative anyway). They really need to stop the busy work and just get back to lectures, note taking and reading and then quiz or test. It’s too much.

Yes.

And the learning seminars (study hall) are mostly taken up by district mandated lessons on equity topics

There isn't really a lot of time to work on homework at school.

I disagree. Sorry.

This is time management and I have seen that all kids who are in magnet tracks from ES, learn time and project management for their academics. Unfortunately, I do not see this with the regular school kids.

Even if some kids come to a magnet program in HS, without learning these skills in ES and MS, they will feel enormous pressure because they have not learned to use the small bits of time throughout the school day to finish their work. Mainly, they cannot look at homework or a project and discern how to breakdown the whole homework in discrete pieces, what the sequence of work should be, and where the dependences are. They cannot prioritize work and they cannot figure out how to use the free time in the school day to finish parts of homework.

These kids are also great in identifying low priority, low impact, low value busy work - which often gets assigned by poorly prepared, not too intelligent, and lazy teachers - and they usually sit with their peers and divvy up this work to divide and conquer.

I have no idea what on earth you're talking about (Magnet tracks? Is that some sort of code for AAP?). DD's teachers expect homework to be done at home. There is no time during the class time to do homework, because that time is taken up by classwork. Just the math homework takes several hours. There is no way to carve out several hours during the school day to complete that work, and that's just one class. As I said previously, she gets 45 minutes or so of "free" time every other day, during advisory. That's hardly enough to get through the work for one class, never mind all the rest of them. Pretty much none of the work she is assigned can be categorized as busywork. It's imperative that she does them, because that's practice for quizzes and tests.

DD is well organized, doesn't have any processing difficulties, or other learning related challenges. She just has a mountain of work, and sometimes, getting everything done in a timely manner means she's up late. She is hardly alone, because her friends are also in similar positions. These are academically strong kids, and what they're going through is not because they aren't well organized, or have time management problems. There is just a lot of work.

+1 I also notice teachers expect kids to be working on weekends as well. They assign brand new tasks on Friday due the next class period. They never give the kids a break!

Up until 10 years ago, having homework over the weekend, even in elementary school, was very common.

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Yes. Mine stays up until 11 or 12, and it takes a toll on their health. After being at school all day, they need a long break before starting in on their homework. So in 11th grade, with the workload, it means they wind up being up way too late. I wish school started at 9:00.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Teach your kid to finish most of the homework at school. My kids did their homework in the classroom, during lunch, on the school bus. And they were in competitive magnet STEM program.

This.

Most kids are given a lot of time during the school day to be free. If your kid goofs off, socializes or zones out it is a missed opportunity.

Have two in high school and both go to bed 9:45-10:30 timeframe. They also are really good about when they get home from sports finishing up any work they did not get done during the day.

Might depend on the classes. As far as I can tell, this doesn't seem to be how DD's classes have been working. Her math class for instance, assigns about 15 pages of problems each session, on average. And the teacher gets super pissed if the kids start working on this in class, instead of focusing on whatever she's asking them to do. One of her other classes on that day assigns about a chapter of reading a week (40-50 pages) and about 45 problems a week. The third one is just note taking, so it's usually only about 20-30 pages per session. When you add in all the quizzes and tests, there is no earthly way to prep for everything during the school day; the only "free time" she has is about 45 minutes every other day during advisory, and once she starts tutoring for honor society, that's gone as well. As it is, she's usually doing her work in the car on her way to places, and still ends up having to stay up late some nights.

+1 we see this too for our kid. The amount of time and effort stuff ends up taking is far more than the time offered in class, but usually they don’t get any class time. If they do it’s not enough to finish whatever monster task (which ends up being formative anyway). They really need to stop the busy work and just get back to lectures, note taking and reading and then quiz or test. It’s too much.

Yes.

And the learning seminars (study hall) are mostly taken up by district mandated lessons on equity topics

There isn't really a lot of time to work on homework at school.

I disagree. Sorry.

This is time management and I have seen that all kids who are in magnet tracks from ES, learn time and project management for their academics. Unfortunately, I do not see this with the regular school kids.

Even if some kids come to a magnet program in HS, without learning these skills in ES and MS, they will feel enormous pressure because they have not learned to use the small bits of time throughout the school day to finish their work. Mainly, they cannot look at homework or a project and discern how to breakdown the whole homework in discrete pieces, what the sequence of work should be, and where the dependences are. They cannot prioritize work and they cannot figure out how to use the free time in the school day to finish parts of homework.

These kids are also great in identifying low priority, low impact, low value busy work - which often gets assigned by poorly prepared, not too intelligent, and lazy teachers - and they usually sit with their peers and divvy up this work to divide and conquer.

How can you disagree about the learning seminars mostly being taken up by district mandated equity lessons?

That is a fact.

+1 I’m glad you brought this up because this is the reality. I have been complaining about this for two years straight now. My child never gets the full 90 minutes to work which they desperately need. 45 minutes every other day isn’t cutting it. They need to offer a study hall period daily - I would like to see at least 45 minutes daily.

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It really depends on the school. My DD and her best friend at two different HS and both in the highest level classes. Best friend reports being given lots of time in classes to get work done which frustrates DD because her teachers are not giving any time in class to get work done. Both are very self-motivated, highly organized and bright (both scored 1500+ on SAT). Different schools in FCPS do things differently.

[Anonymous]

10th grader constantly studying way past midnight. They even get help from us. And they are not getting straight A. I was surprised to read the thread and thought my kid is dumb. Then I realize they are taking many AP courses. Maybe AP and honor classes do take time.

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Anonymous wrote:It really depends on the school. My DD and her best friend at two different HS and both in the highest level classes. Best friend reports being given lots of time in classes to get work done which frustrates DD because her teachers are not giving any time in class to get work done. Both are very self-motivated, highly organized and bright (both scored 1500+ on SAT). Different schools in FCPS do things differently.

+1 can you share which school is the homework heavy one?