Dog owners in NYC. Have you noticed an uptick in aggressive dogs around you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I’ve noticed is an uptick in entitled dog owners that think it’s ok to walk their dog without a leash on the street or run around in non-dog park because the dog is “friendly”. A couple of times I’ve even seen them at playgrounds. Scaring the crap out people and kids. The level of hate I’m starting to develop for these people… 311 is useless and somehow they’re more people that want to act like dogs are babies so it’s ok. Ridiculous.

You call 311 on people? Really?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My neighborhood is full of dogs. The only aggressive ones are the tiny little Pomeranians the little white ladies hold in their purses and take everywhere, yet have never properly trained.

yeah, a Pomeranian isn't going to kill you or rip your face off, no matter how angry and loud it can get. Dogs that can kill should be leashed and muzzled in public places. It's common sense.

You know this means you'll have to muzzle your goldendoodle. Skippy is big enough to kill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I’ve noticed is an uptick in entitled dog owners that think it’s ok to walk their dog without a leash on the street or run around in non-dog park because the dog is “friendly”. A couple of times I’ve even seen them at playgrounds. Scaring the crap out people and kids. The level of hate I’m starting to develop for these people… 311 is useless and somehow they’re more people that want to act like dogs are babies so it’s ok. Ridiculous.

I’ve never ever seen this in my 20+ years in NYC, at least before pit bulls became so common because of the advocacy of a small group of people.

Years ago, informal dog parks in NYC were common and enjoyed by many. I didn’t have a dog then, but a friend did and there was a hill near the Brooklyn bridge where dogs ran, and it was wonderful for all. You essentially never saw an aggressive breed, and I never saw a fight. Now you have people walking what are essentially loaded guns around and a significant uptick in extremely serious dog attacks, requiring everyone to leash up their dogs and keep their children away to keep them safe.

Breed bans are common in European countries and you’ll see that unleashed dogs in parks are not uncommon. No one should have to worry that a dog can kill their dog or their child if it makes a mistake.

It’s unfortunate.

You sound like RFK Jr waxing rhapsodic about how when he was a kid they were encouraged to bring their guns to school and no one ever got shot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was at a large kids sporting event recently and I saw what looked like a young pit bull there. It was leashed and just minding its own business. But I was still apprehensive. Stereotypes aren't made up. Even the best trained pit bull has a higher likelihood of snapping. I don't think anything should be done with living pit bulls that are behaving. But I really don't understand the desire to continue this breed. There are lots of other types of dogs out there. People are going to naturally shy away from pit bulls. Who wants to be that guy?

Leash laws are in place for a reason. There are places to let your dog off leash. Those who don't like dogs should stay away from those places. But in general public, dogs should be kept close on a leash. I almost tripped over a leash that was extended out about six feet on a busy sidewalk the other day. Not cool.

I have no problem with dog owners of non aggressive breeds ‘breaking the law’ and having their dogs off leash in unofficial areas like the one I mentioned by the water. Not high traffic or where kids are playing. There is a grassy meadow with little pedestrian traffic and at dusk, dog owners congregate and let their dogs run and play. It seems like the people who have the biggest issue with it on DCUM are those who have pit bulls and can’t trust their own dogs. So if a dog runs up to it, they know their dog might attack.

To me, the fix is to ban aggressive dog breeds, not make everyone else have to accommodate your killer dog. If my dog misbehaves, she might jump on you. Not maul your arm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My neighborhood is full of dogs. The only aggressive ones are the tiny little Pomeranians the little white ladies hold in their purses and take everywhere, yet have never properly trained.

yeah, a Pomeranian isn't going to kill you or rip your face off, no matter how angry and loud it can get. Dogs that can kill should be leashed and muzzled in public places. It's common sense.

You know this means you'll have to muzzle your goldendoodle. Skippy is big enough to kill.

Please provide stats of golden doodles harming people or other animals

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I’ve noticed is an uptick in entitled dog owners that think it’s ok to walk their dog without a leash on the street or run around in non-dog park because the dog is “friendly”. A couple of times I’ve even seen them at playgrounds. Scaring the crap out people and kids. The level of hate I’m starting to develop for these people… 311 is useless and somehow they’re more people that want to act like dogs are babies so it’s ok. Ridiculous.

I’ve never ever seen this in my 20+ years in NYC, at least before pit bulls became so common because of the advocacy of a small group of people.

Years ago, informal dog parks in NYC were common and enjoyed by many. I didn’t have a dog then, but a friend did and there was a hill near the Brooklyn bridge where dogs ran, and it was wonderful for all. You essentially never saw an aggressive breed, and I never saw a fight. Now you have people walking what are essentially loaded guns around and a significant uptick in extremely serious dog attacks, requiring everyone to leash up their dogs and keep their children away to keep them safe.

Breed bans are common in European countries and you’ll see that unleashed dogs in parks are not uncommon. No one should have to worry that a dog can kill their dog or their child if it makes a mistake.

It’s unfortunate.

You sound like RFK Jr waxing rhapsodic about how when he was a kid they were encouraged to bring their guns to school and no one ever got shot.

I guess you’re trying to be clever but you’re not. Makes sense based on your dog of choice

[Anonymous]

I am frequently in Riverside Park and to a lesser extent Central Park where I believe dogs are allowed off leash before 9 am and there are many dog runs. I often see people walking with their dogs off leash in the middle of the day when the park is fairly crowded. I'm 95% sure the dogs are harmless but as the parent of a child who was very afraid of dogs for years, I do not appreciate this. There is a time and a place. The dog can run around in the dog run or early in the morning. It is not torture for the dog to be on a leash. You might know that your dog is harmless but others don't. And for some, the mere act of an unleashed dog running at them to play is still frightening.

Note that i grew up in the suburbs with a dog that loved to jump on people and wouldn't hurt a soul. So I get the joke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am frequently in Riverside Park and to a lesser extent Central Park where I believe dogs are allowed off leash before 9 am and there are many dog runs. I often see people walking with their dogs off leash in the middle of the day when the park is fairly crowded. I'm 95% sure the dogs are harmless but as the parent of a child who was very afraid of dogs for years, I do not appreciate this. There is a time and a place. The dog can run around in the dog run or early in the morning. It is not torture for the dog to be on a leash. You might know that your dog is harmless but others don't. And for some, the mere act of an unleashed dog running at them to play is still frightening.

Note that i grew up in the suburbs with a dog that loved to jump on people and wouldn't hurt a soul. So I get the joke.

I find this surprising. I rarely see this.

Almost never that I can recall in fact.

If your dd has a phobia, that is something to work on as a parent, no?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am frequently in Riverside Park and to a lesser extent Central Park where I believe dogs are allowed off leash before 9 am and there are many dog runs. I often see people walking with their dogs off leash in the middle of the day when the park is fairly crowded. I'm 95% sure the dogs are harmless but as the parent of a child who was very afraid of dogs for years, I do not appreciate this. There is a time and a place. The dog can run around in the dog run or early in the morning. It is not torture for the dog to be on a leash. You might know that your dog is harmless but others don't. And for some, the mere act of an unleashed dog running at them to play is still frightening.

Note that i grew up in the suburbs with a dog that loved to jump on people and wouldn't hurt a soul. So I get the joke.

I find this surprising. I rarely see this.

Almost never that I can recall in fact.

If your dd has a phobia, that is something to work on as a parent, no?

A) On average I see at least one dog off leash every time I go. Sorry you don't see this. Maybe you aren't looking closely enough.
B) We have worked on the phobia (it is my son, by the way - not sure why you assumed it was a daughter - you know what happens when you assume). My child is now largely over it, partially thanks to a very kind neighbor with a sweet dog who has taken the time to let my son become comfortable with his dog. But my child is not alone in this. Your child has no fears, challenges, or issues? They've managed to overcome having a jerk like you as a parent? If you even found someone dumb enough to procreate with you?
C) There are rules. People who have their dog off leash when they are supposed to be on leash are breaking the rules. There are plenty of times and places where dogs can be off leash. Full stop.
D) Your condescending, patronizing tone is not appreciated. Let me guess. Your precious Rover loves to be off leash and thus the whole world must stop to accommodate you. I think the city has come up with a pretty nice compromise with dedicated off leash hours and dog runs. If you don't like it, move to the suburbs and fence in a yard. Good riddance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am frequently in Riverside Park and to a lesser extent Central Park where I believe dogs are allowed off leash before 9 am and there are many dog runs. I often see people walking with their dogs off leash in the middle of the day when the park is fairly crowded. I'm 95% sure the dogs are harmless but as the parent of a child who was very afraid of dogs for years, I do not appreciate this. There is a time and a place. The dog can run around in the dog run or early in the morning. It is not torture for the dog to be on a leash. You might know that your dog is harmless but others don't. And for some, the mere act of an unleashed dog running at them to play is still frightening.

Note that i grew up in the suburbs with a dog that loved to jump on people and wouldn't hurt a soul. So I get the joke.

I find this surprising. I rarely see this.

Almost never that I can recall in fact.

If your dd has a phobia, that is something to work on as a parent, no?

A) On average I see at least one dog off leash every time I go. Sorry you don't see this. Maybe you aren't looking closely enough.
B) We have worked on the phobia (it is my son, by the way - not sure why you assumed it was a daughter - you know what happens when you assume). My child is now largely over it, partially thanks to a very kind neighbor with a sweet dog who has taken the time to let my son become comfortable with his dog. But my child is not alone in this. Your child has no fears, challenges, or issues? They've managed to overcome having a jerk like you as a parent? If you even found someone dumb enough to procreate with you?
C) There are rules. People who have their dog off leash when they are supposed to be on leash are breaking the rules. There are plenty of times and places where dogs can be off leash. Full stop.
D) Your condescending, patronizing tone is not appreciated. Let me guess. Your precious Rover loves to be off leash and thus the whole world must stop to accommodate you. I think the city has come up with a pretty nice compromise with dedicated off leash hours and dog runs. If you don't like it, move to the suburbs and fence in a yard. Good riddance.

Wow, so defensive!

I rarely see dogs off leash in busy areas. Then again, I’m not looking to be angry about a dog off leash that is not bothering me, so perhaps I don’t see them. Perhaps you are overly sensitive to the issue and focus on it?

I see dogs off leash at *less* busy times and/or areas, and I don’t mind them. I’m not the only who appreciates this btw; as I mentioned, there is a community of dog owners who have found each other and who congregate. So you want to ruin it for everyone because your dc has an irrational fear of dogs?

As far as whether it is a dd or ds who has a phobia, who who cares what the gender is? The point is that you are trying to control others because of your child’s needs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am frequently in Riverside Park and to a lesser extent Central Park where I believe dogs are allowed off leash before 9 am and there are many dog runs. I often see people walking with their dogs off leash in the middle of the day when the park is fairly crowded. I'm 95% sure the dogs are harmless but as the parent of a child who was very afraid of dogs for years, I do not appreciate this. There is a time and a place. The dog can run around in the dog run or early in the morning. It is not torture for the dog to be on a leash. You might know that your dog is harmless but others don't. And for some, the mere act of an unleashed dog running at them to play is still frightening.

Note that i grew up in the suburbs with a dog that loved to jump on people and wouldn't hurt a soul. So I get the joke.

I find this surprising. I rarely see this.

Almost never that I can recall in fact.

If your dd has a phobia, that is something to work on as a parent, no?

A) On average I see at least one dog off leash every time I go. Sorry you don't see this. Maybe you aren't looking closely enough.
B) We have worked on the phobia (it is my son, by the way - not sure why you assumed it was a daughter - you know what happens when you assume). My child is now largely over it, partially thanks to a very kind neighbor with a sweet dog who has taken the time to let my son become comfortable with his dog. But my child is not alone in this. Your child has no fears, challenges, or issues? They've managed to overcome having a jerk like you as a parent? If you even found someone dumb enough to procreate with you?
C) There are rules. People who have their dog off leash when they are supposed to be on leash are breaking the rules. There are plenty of times and places where dogs can be off leash. Full stop.
D) Your condescending, patronizing tone is not appreciated. Let me guess. Your precious Rover loves to be off leash and thus the whole world must stop to accommodate you. I think the city has come up with a pretty nice compromise with dedicated off leash hours and dog runs. If you don't like it, move to the suburbs and fence in a yard. Good riddance.

Also, you are easily triggered and quick to insult. Bet I can guess why… lolz

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My neighborhood is full of dogs. The only aggressive ones are the tiny little Pomeranians the little white ladies hold in their purses and take everywhere, yet have never properly trained.

yeah, a Pomeranian isn't going to kill you or rip your face off, no matter how angry and loud it can get. Dogs that can kill should be leashed and muzzled in public places. It's common sense.

You know this means you'll have to muzzle your goldendoodle. Skippy is big enough to kill.

Please provide stats of golden doodles harming people or other animals

The statement was “dogs that can kill.” Do you honestly think a doodle can’t kill? Certainly they can. This is why muzzling all “dogs that can kill” is over the top.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am frequently in Riverside Park and to a lesser extent Central Park where I believe dogs are allowed off leash before 9 am and there are many dog runs. I often see people walking with their dogs off leash in the middle of the day when the park is fairly crowded. I'm 95% sure the dogs are harmless but as the parent of a child who was very afraid of dogs for years, I do not appreciate this. There is a time and a place. The dog can run around in the dog run or early in the morning. It is not torture for the dog to be on a leash. You might know that your dog is harmless but others don't. And for some, the mere act of an unleashed dog running at them to play is still frightening.

Note that i grew up in the suburbs with a dog that loved to jump on people and wouldn't hurt a soul. So I get the joke.

I find this surprising. I rarely see this.

Almost never that I can recall in fact.

If your dd has a phobia, that is something to work on as a parent, no?

A) On average I see at least one dog off leash every time I go. Sorry you don't see this. Maybe you aren't looking closely enough.
B) We have worked on the phobia (it is my son, by the way - not sure why you assumed it was a daughter - you know what happens when you assume). My child is now largely over it, partially thanks to a very kind neighbor with a sweet dog who has taken the time to let my son become comfortable with his dog. But my child is not alone in this. Your child has no fears, challenges, or issues? They've managed to overcome having a jerk like you as a parent? If you even found someone dumb enough to procreate with you?
C) There are rules. People who have their dog off leash when they are supposed to be on leash are breaking the rules. There are plenty of times and places where dogs can be off leash. Full stop.
D) Your condescending, patronizing tone is not appreciated. Let me guess. Your precious Rover loves to be off leash and thus the whole world must stop to accommodate you. I think the city has come up with a pretty nice compromise with dedicated off leash hours and dog runs. If you don't like it, move to the suburbs and fence in a yard. Good riddance.

Wow, so defensive!

I rarely see dogs off leash in busy areas. Then again, I’m not looking to be angry about a dog off leash that is not bothering me, so perhaps I don’t see them. Perhaps you are overly sensitive to the issue and focus on it?

I see dogs off leash at *less* busy times and/or areas, and I don’t mind them. I’m not the only who appreciates this btw; as I mentioned, there is a community of dog owners who have found each other and who congregate. So you want to ruin it for everyone because your dc has an irrational fear of dogs?

As far as whether it is a dd or ds who has a phobia, who who cares what the gender is? The point is that you are trying to control others because of your child’s needs.

NP: Insulting a child by calling a fear irrational? Really? How low class can you get?

And that is not "ruining it for everyone." It is ruining it for dog owners who have an irrational fear of keeping their dog on a leash and doing something for the greater good.

You are a truly small human being. Like Chihuahua small to put it in language you might understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My neighborhood is full of dogs. The only aggressive ones are the tiny little Pomeranians the little white ladies hold in their purses and take everywhere, yet have never properly trained.

yeah, a Pomeranian isn't going to kill you or rip your face off, no matter how angry and loud it can get. Dogs that can kill should be leashed and muzzled in public places. It's common sense.

You know this means you'll have to muzzle your goldendoodle. Skippy is big enough to kill.

Please provide stats of golden doodles harming people or other animals

The statement was “dogs that can kill.” Do you honestly think a doodle can’t kill? Certainly they can. This is why muzzling all “dogs that can kill” is over the top.

No, I don’t think a golden doodle is capable of killing a person. Do you have any stats on that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am frequently in Riverside Park and to a lesser extent Central Park where I believe dogs are allowed off leash before 9 am and there are many dog runs. I often see people walking with their dogs off leash in the middle of the day when the park is fairly crowded. I'm 95% sure the dogs are harmless but as the parent of a child who was very afraid of dogs for years, I do not appreciate this. There is a time and a place. The dog can run around in the dog run or early in the morning. It is not torture for the dog to be on a leash. You might know that your dog is harmless but others don't. And for some, the mere act of an unleashed dog running at them to play is still frightening.

Note that i grew up in the suburbs with a dog that loved to jump on people and wouldn't hurt a soul. So I get the joke.

I find this surprising. I rarely see this.

Almost never that I can recall in fact.

If your dd has a phobia, that is something to work on as a parent, no?

A) On average I see at least one dog off leash every time I go. Sorry you don't see this. Maybe you aren't looking closely enough.
B) We have worked on the phobia (it is my son, by the way - not sure why you assumed it was a daughter - you know what happens when you assume). My child is now largely over it, partially thanks to a very kind neighbor with a sweet dog who has taken the time to let my son become comfortable with his dog. But my child is not alone in this. Your child has no fears, challenges, or issues? They've managed to overcome having a jerk like you as a parent? If you even found someone dumb enough to procreate with you?
C) There are rules. People who have their dog off leash when they are supposed to be on leash are breaking the rules. There are plenty of times and places where dogs can be off leash. Full stop.
D) Your condescending, patronizing tone is not appreciated. Let me guess. Your precious Rover loves to be off leash and thus the whole world must stop to accommodate you. I think the city has come up with a pretty nice compromise with dedicated off leash hours and dog runs. If you don't like it, move to the suburbs and fence in a yard. Good riddance.

Wow, so defensive!

I rarely see dogs off leash in busy areas. Then again, I’m not looking to be angry about a dog off leash that is not bothering me, so perhaps I don’t see them. Perhaps you are overly sensitive to the issue and focus on it?

I see dogs off leash at *less* busy times and/or areas, and I don’t mind them. I’m not the only who appreciates this btw; as I mentioned, there is a community of dog owners who have found each other and who congregate. So you want to ruin it for everyone because your dc has an irrational fear of dogs?

As far as whether it is a dd or ds who has a phobia, who who cares what the gender is? The point is that you are trying to control others because of your child’s needs.

NP: Insulting a child by calling a fear irrational? Really? How low class can you get?

And that is not "ruining it for everyone." It is ruining it for dog owners who have an irrational fear of keeping their dog on a leash and doing something for the greater good.

You are a truly small human being. Like Chihuahua small to put it in language you might understand.

Wow. Why do you get so angry so quickly? Why make it personal? You immediately rush to insults. It is rather strange.

I don’t see that I insulted a child.. where? But yes, i think if a child has a phobia of something like dogs- who they are bound to see often as we are a society of pet owners- then yes, a good parent would work on that. Why is that so upsetting to you?

Do you have pets?