Colleges out of the U.S. for STEM

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Anonymous wrote:Mcgill

Can anyone elaborate? Thanks

DP. McGill is very rigorous in STEM, perhaps too rigorous. Anyone who survives Mcgill with a STEM will do well. Mental health for the STEM students is an area to worry about there, sadly. It really is very high stress.

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ACT scores still go up to 36 I believe. Are practice tests different?

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I went to MIT and MIT had a program with Cambridge. It also allowed Ecole Polytechnique, but just accepted P/F no grades.

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Anonymous wrote:Mcgill

Can anyone elaborate? Thanks

Other than stem, the Desautels Faculty of Management at McGill is very good also

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Anonymous wrote:Ecole Polytechnique in Paris.

Wouldn't they have to take all their classes in French??

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Anonymous wrote:With all the hate and politics surrounding colleges in the U.S., DC is very interested in Canada, UK and other schools. Would like to study most likely business/finance or engineering. 4.0 UW and practice ACT scores of 34/35. Any recommendations?

Most UK top (not all) will require at least 3 AP tests at 5. Some will ask for 5 at 5’s, others will do will a couple of 4’s and others like StA and Edinburgh and Bristol are more in tune with the different US systems and will look at your kid’s application more holistic.

For Engineering: Imperial, Bristol and Edinburgh
For Business (in UK it could be called Management, Econ Mgmt, Finance, Financial Econ, etc): Oxford, St Andrews, Warwick, LSE, UCL

You can look at the UK’s main rankings here. They rank by subject, undergrad teaching only, not about PhD Research: https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings/business-and-management-studies

Depending on the uni/program, if APs/ACTs/SATs meet minimum requirements (x number of relevant AP 5s plus 1500 or 34/35), applicants will need to interview and/or take additional subject-specific tests. E.g. DD applied to ICL for CS and, after meeting the AP/SAT requirements, had to interview and also take the "easiest" of Cambridge's STEP/math tests. FWIW, unlike the US's SAT/ACT/APs, the Oxford MAT and Cambridge STEP tests aren't trivial. A UK friend of mine had the A-levels for Cambridge, had to take STEP, said it was the hardest exam he'd ever sat for. DD's experience was similar.

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Anonymous wrote:With all the hate and politics surrounding colleges in the U.S., DC is very interested in Canada, UK and other schools. Would like to study most likely business/finance or engineering. 4.0 UW and practice ACT scores of 34/35. Any recommendations?

Most UK top (not all) will require at least 3 AP tests at 5. Some will ask for 5 at 5’s, others will do will a couple of 4’s and others like StA and Edinburgh and Bristol are more in tune with the different US systems and will look at your kid’s application more holistic.

For Engineering: Imperial, Bristol and Edinburgh
For Business (in UK it could be called Management, Econ Mgmt, Finance, Financial Econ, etc): Oxford, St Andrews, Warwick, LSE, UCL

You can look at the UK’s main rankings here. They rank by subject, undergrad teaching only, not about PhD Research: https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings/business-and-management-studies

Not really. They want all 5's as well, plus transcripts, letters of recommendation and anything else confirming your kid is academically viable. That's not really holistic. There's no interviews with these places. They do read your Personal Statement but that is written to show your ability to take up a place on a specific course, so it doesn't include sports and EC's unless directly related to that. We have just been through this cycle with two DC who are starting in the UK this week.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With all the hate and politics surrounding colleges in the U.S., DC is very interested in Canada, UK and other schools. Would like to study most likely business/finance or engineering. 4.0 UW and practice ACT scores of 34/35. Any recommendations?

Most UK top (not all) will require at least 3 AP tests at 5. Some will ask for 5 at 5’s, others will do will a couple of 4’s and others like StA and Edinburgh and Bristol are more in tune with the different US systems and will look at your kid’s application more holistic.

For Engineering: Imperial, Bristol and Edinburgh
For Business (in UK it could be called Management, Econ Mgmt, Finance, Financial Econ, etc): Oxford, St Andrews, Warwick, LSE, UCL

You can look at the UK’s main rankings here. They rank by subject, undergrad teaching only, not about PhD Research: https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings/business-and-management-studies

Not really. They want all 5's as well, plus transcripts, letters of recommendation and anything else confirming your kid is academically viable. That's not really holistic. There's no interviews with these places. They do read your Personal Statement but that is written to show your ability to take up a place on a specific course, so it doesn't include sports and EC's unless directly related to that. We have just been through this cycle with two DC who are starting in the UK this week.

I forgot to say, if STEM they rarely, if ever look at the PS. Many of these unis will use it as a "tie-breaker" in rare circumstances.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With all the hate and politics surrounding colleges in the U.S., DC is very interested in Canada, UK and other schools. Would like to study most likely business/finance or engineering. 4.0 UW and practice ACT scores of 34/35. Any recommendations?

Most UK top (not all) will require at least 3 AP tests at 5. Some will ask for 5 at 5’s, others will do will a couple of 4’s and others like StA and Edinburgh and Bristol are more in tune with the different US systems and will look at your kid’s application more holistic.

For Engineering: Imperial, Bristol and Edinburgh
For Business (in UK it could be called Management, Econ Mgmt, Finance, Financial Econ, etc): Oxford, St Andrews, Warwick, LSE, UCL

You can look at the UK’s main rankings here. They rank by subject, undergrad teaching only, not about PhD Research: https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings/business-and-management-studies

Depending on the uni/program, if APs/ACTs/SATs meet minimum requirements (x number of relevant AP 5s plus 1500 or 34/35), applicants will need to interview and/or take additional subject-specific tests. E.g. DD applied to ICL for CS and, after meeting the AP/SAT requirements, had to interview and also take the "easiest" of Cambridge's STEP/math tests. FWIW, unlike the US's SAT/ACT/APs, the Oxford MAT and Cambridge STEP tests aren't trivial. A UK friend of mine had the A-levels for Cambridge, had to take STEP, said it was the hardest exam he'd ever sat for. DD's experience was similar.

Only Cambridge and Oxford interview candidates before putting out an offer. LSE may interview some. The rest really don't bother any more. It used to be a lot more common years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With all the hate and politics surrounding colleges in the U.S., DC is very interested in Canada, UK and other schools. Would like to study most likely business/finance or engineering. 4.0 UW and practice ACT scores of 34/35. Any recommendations?

Most UK top (not all) will require at least 3 AP tests at 5. Some will ask for 5 at 5’s, others will do will a couple of 4’s and others like StA and Edinburgh and Bristol are more in tune with the different US systems and will look at your kid’s application more holistic.

For Engineering: Imperial, Bristol and Edinburgh
For Business (in UK it could be called Management, Econ Mgmt, Finance, Financial Econ, etc): Oxford, St Andrews, Warwick, LSE, UCL

You can look at the UK’s main rankings here. They rank by subject, undergrad teaching only, not about PhD Research: https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings/business-and-management-studies

Do you need the 3-5 AP 5s OR just the ACT/SAT 35/1550? My child has the latter but has all 4s so far on APs I guess we can't consider any UK schools? How about Waterloo/Toronto or St. Andrews? Thanks!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With all the hate and politics surrounding colleges in the U.S., DC is very interested in Canada, UK and other schools. Would like to study most likely business/finance or engineering. 4.0 UW and practice ACT scores of 34/35. Any recommendations?

Most UK top (not all) will require at least 3 AP tests at 5. Some will ask for 5 at 5’s, others will do will a couple of 4’s and others like StA and Edinburgh and Bristol are more in tune with the different US systems and will look at your kid’s application more holistic.

For Engineering: Imperial, Bristol and Edinburgh
For Business (in UK it could be called Management, Econ Mgmt, Finance, Financial Econ, etc): Oxford, St Andrews, Warwick, LSE, UCL

You can look at the UK’s main rankings here. They rank by subject, undergrad teaching only, not about PhD Research: https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings/business-and-management-studies

Do you need the 3-5 AP 5s OR just the ACT/SAT 35/1550? My child has the latter but has all 4s so far on APs I guess we can't consider any UK schools? How about Waterloo/Toronto or St. Andrews? Thanks!

Each college will have its own entry requirements. One really needs to check with each college. Very likely on their website.

At least for most UK colleges, admissions requirements vary by the specific degree sought (e.g., CS, history, math, or whatever).

Also, for colleges in England and Wales, one applies to a specific degree program - and changes of subject are difficult (a very few exceptions probably exist). In Scotland, it is easier to change subjects than it is in England, but still not as simple as it is at UMCP or UVa.

For most UK colleges, one must apply via UCAS. A few exceptions exist - for example, US students can apply to U. StAndrews without using UCAS.