How many out of county students pay tuition to attend FCPS?

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't fed govt pay tuition for military kids? Isn't that why we fill out those forms?

The students of military families are living in Fairfax County. There is no tuition needed because the military families are residing inside Fairfax County.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't fed govt pay tuition for military kids? Isn't that why we fill out those forms?

The students of military families are living in Fairfax County. There is no tuition needed because the military families are residing inside Fairfax County.

But those families don't pay county (or even state) taxes....FL and TX license plates, renters, etc. yet still use FCPS and all it's resources.

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Anonymous wrote:This information doesn’t show up anywhere I’ve looked. If you’re at TJ, a Governor’s school, out of county student don’t pay, which makes sense. There are other exemptions as well. I’m sure I don’t know what they are. I can guess that if a student who goes to a caregiver’s house in Fairfax, they may get an exemption. Maybe FCPS teachers who live outside Fairfax get exemptions for their children.

Friend moved out of county and planned to move her senior in with her parents, which would've been legit. However, instead, she didn’t move the kid in with her parents and shuttled him from out of county every morning. 🤦‍♀️ Apparently, this came out in some meeting. FCPS said her son could stay if she paid tuition bc the school had capacity. She was upset but this was known upfront. Ugh. “Simple” solution, move kid in with grandparents and make them legal guardians for his senior year. I feel bad for the kid.

Made me wonder how many people actually pay tuition as they should. Not sure if FCPS is even worth the expense.

Nope. That would not have worked. One cannot simply name a legal guardian who resides in FCPS for the purpose of attending tuition-free. If the parents were incarcerated or on their deathbed, and unable to care for their children, then they could attend tuition-free.

It’s all laid out in Regulation 2202: https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/CYJLGM560E5E/$file/P2202.pdf

Also interesting. My friend said they could do this since her DH took a job that necessitated the move. She’s gotten consent from the principal, which was later revoked

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So much misinformation in the first paragraph of the OP. The out-of-county kids who attend TJ have their tuition paid by their respective counties.

My point was they legitimately don’t have to pay unlike my friend whose child does not qualify for that.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This information doesn’t show up anywhere I’ve looked. If you’re at TJ, a Governor’s school, out of county student don’t pay, which makes sense. There are other exemptions as well. I’m sure I don’t know what they are. I can guess that if a student who goes to a caregiver’s house in Fairfax, they may get an exemption. Maybe FCPS teachers who live outside Fairfax get exemptions for their children.

Friend moved out of county and planned to move her senior in with her parents, which would've been legit. However, instead, she didn’t move the kid in with her parents and shuttled him from out of county every morning. 🤦‍♀️ Apparently, this came out in some meeting. FCPS said her son could stay if she paid tuition bc the school had capacity. She was upset but this was known upfront. Ugh. “Simple” solution, move kid in with grandparents and make them legal guardians for his senior year. I feel bad for the kid.

Made me wonder how many people actually pay tuition as they should. Not sure if FCPS is even worth the expense.

Nope. That would not have worked. One cannot simply name a legal guardian who resides in FCPS for the purpose of attending tuition-free. If the parents were incarcerated or on their deathbed, and unable to care for their children, then they could attend tuition-free.

It’s all laid out in Regulation 2202: https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/CYJLGM560E5E/$file/P2202.pdf

Also interesting. My friend said they could do this since her DH took a job that necessitated the move. She’s gotten consent from the principal, which was later revoked

Yeah, the principal had no business approving it in the first place. That’s why it was later revoked.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Doesn't fed govt pay tuition for military kids? Isn't that why we fill out those forms?

The students of military families are living in Fairfax County. There is no tuition needed because the military families are residing inside Fairfax County.

But those families don't pay county (or even state) taxes....FL and TX license plates, renters, etc. yet still use FCPS and all it's resources.

This is where Impact Aid comes into play.
https://www.fcps.edu/services/families-and-caregivers/family-academy/families-military/education-policies-and-programs

[Anonymous]

There are currently no methods for attending FCPS, living out of district, and skipping tuition (except TJ). Not for staff, childcare, grandparents, senior year privileges. There are ways to attend, but you pay.

As a HS teacher, 95% of the cases of boundary fraud kids share with me (they all talk openly) is within the county. Mom and step dad got divorced but they’re still using step dad’s address despite not living there anymore. Or family moved across the line but didn’t update their address from FCPS A to FCPS B.

Maybe once every few years I learn of a kid who moved to PG county but still attends their former FCPS. It comes up because they are chronically late to school or to be picked up.

FWIW, I always report it to the registrar. I don’t know what they choose to do with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op - why didn't your friend stay in Fairfax Co and just commute daily (albeit a long commute) to the out-of-county...instead of doing it in reverse as you described?

I'd think driving a long commute to work is better than a long commute to my HS senior's school is easier. Or the HS senior's drives him/herself.

Spouse took a county job that, as I understand it, requires him to live in the new county.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This information doesn’t show up anywhere I’ve looked. If you’re at TJ, a Governor’s school, out of county student don’t pay, which makes sense.

The public school system the TJ student is zoned for has to pay TJ for each child from their system who attends TJ. Tuition is NOT waived. It is paid by that other school system (e.g., APS, LCPS).

Perseverating on TJ and how tuition is paid are totally off topic. Mention of it was used as an acknowledgement that the friend’s situation is different.

[Anonymous]

So again, where are the numbers about how many out of county students pay to attend FCPS schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Doesn't fed govt pay tuition for military kids? Isn't that why we fill out those forms?

The students of military families are living in Fairfax County. There is no tuition needed because the military families are residing inside Fairfax County.

But those families don't pay county (or even state) taxes....FL and TX license plates, renters, etc. yet still use FCPS and all it's resources.

The government does pay the tuition for those kids in Fairfax County. That is why they are so insistent on those federal forms they send out at the beginning of the year.

Now, the question is: will these payments be impacted by FCPS protest to Title IX?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Doesn't fed govt pay tuition for military kids? Isn't that why we fill out those forms?

The students of military families are living in Fairfax County. There is no tuition needed because the military families are residing inside Fairfax County.

But those families don't pay county (or even state) taxes....FL and TX license plates, renters, etc. yet still use FCPS and all it's resources.

The government does pay the tuition for those kids in Fairfax County. That is why they are so insistent on those federal forms they send out at the beginning of the year.

Now, the question is: will these payments be impacted by FCPS protest to Title IX?

No.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For some, it’s cheaper and easier to rent an apartment or a room somewhere in district for the one year. The kid lives in it with whatever family member they want M-F. It would be the primary residence.

There was a very famous--and well respected football player--who did that for his son about twenty years ago. It didn't turn out well.

I was suggesting they actually move there. Not rent just for the address. That would be illegal.

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Anonymous wrote:For some, it’s cheaper and easier to rent an apartment or a room somewhere in district for the one year. The kid lives in it with whatever family member they want M-F. It would be the primary residence.

There was a very famous--and well respected football player--who did that for his son about twenty years ago. It didn't turn out well.

I was suggesting they actually move there. Not rent just for the address. That would be illegal.

Agree that would be illegal.

After giving this more thought and perusing the responses here, I'm beginning to think that FCPS is purposely hiding these numbers. I also wonder if the number of out of county students (excluding those at TJ) is insignificant (in which case it is no big deal to show those numbers) and how many are paying tuition. Or, maybe they are significant enough to affect boundary decisions.

-OP

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For some, it’s cheaper and easier to rent an apartment or a room somewhere in district for the one year. The kid lives in it with whatever family member they want M-F. It would be the primary residence.

There was a very famous--and well respected football player--who did that for his son about twenty years ago. It didn't turn out well.

I was suggesting they actually move there. Not rent just for the address. That would be illegal.

Agree that would be illegal.

After giving this more thought and perusing the responses here, I'm beginning to think that FCPS is purposely hiding these numbers. I also wonder if the number of out of county students (excluding those at TJ) is insignificant (in which case it is no big deal to show those numbers) and how many are paying tuition. Or, maybe they are significant enough to affect boundary decisions.

-OP

It’s the former. I’ve been a school-based administrator for over 15 years. I’ve never known anyone to pay out of county tuition. I have told parents that they will be charged this because we have discovered that they live out of county and we have proof (through a residency investigation). They withdraw.