VA State School Job Application - Asking for Original SSN Card?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have never had to show a SS card, which is good, because I e never had one. Good grief. Is this something I should figure out how to get for my kid? I assume it’s like birth and marriage certificates, where you can pay for an official certified copy from Richmond or whatever?


Yes. You should have gotten one when your kid was a baby.

Huh. Do you yours from when you were a baby? Is this actually something most people have? I have never once needed it. I’ve never had one as an adult. If my parents had one for me, they never mentioned it. I’ve had a passport since I was 14, and my kid has had one since she was 5. That’s all we’ve ever needed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have never had to show a SS card, which is good, because I e never had one. Good grief. Is this something I should figure out how to get for my kid? I assume it’s like birth and marriage certificates, where you can pay for an official certified copy from Richmond or whatever?


Yes. You should have gotten one when your kid was a baby.

Huh. Do you yours from when you were a baby? Is this actually something most people have? I have never once needed it. I’ve never had one as an adult. If my parents had one for me, they never mentioned it. I’ve had a passport since I was 14, and my kid has had one since she was 5. That’s all we’ve ever needed.


DP. Yes, I have my SS card from when I was a baby and my three kids all have theirs. They also have passports, so will probably never need to show their SS cards. But we all have ours.
Anonymous
Do not put an original SS card into the mail. Because of fraud concerns, it is a nightmare ti get a replacement card.
Anonymous
I have had to present my original SS card for every job I have ever had. A passport will work, too, as well as a formal birth certificate. The I9 verification is to prove you are legally allowed to work in the US.
Anonymous
actually it's not for I-9. instead it's to "confirm Form W-4 info is correct." ok fine but why must it be the original card? absurd.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have never had to show a SS card, which is good, because I e never had one. Good grief. Is this something I should figure out how to get for my kid? I assume it’s like birth and marriage certificates, where you can pay for an official certified copy from Richmond or whatever?


Yes. You should have gotten one when your kid was a baby.

Huh. Do you yours from when you were a baby? Is this actually something most people have? I have never once needed it. I’ve never had one as an adult. If my parents had one for me, they never mentioned it. I’ve had a passport since I was 14, and my kid has had one since she was 5. That’s all we’ve ever needed.


DP: I have my card and my kids’ SSN cards. They’re stored in a safe along with the passports and other important documents. Seems odd to never have had a SSN card for yourself or your kids.
Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]actually it's not for I-9. instead it's to "confirm Form W-4 info is correct." ok fine but why must it be the original card? absurd.[/quote]

Yeah, that’s weird. The W-4 is about tax deduction withholding, completely separate and distinct from I-9 employment verification. And the IRS instructions for W-4 say nothing about requiring a copy of the SSN. Maybe the person isn’t explaining it well or your student isn’t understanding?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:actually it's not for I-9. instead it's to "confirm Form W-4 info is correct." ok fine but why must it be the original card? absurd.

Yeah, that’s weird. The W-4 is about tax deduction withholding, completely separate and distinct from I-9 employment verification. And the IRS instructions for W-4 say nothing about requiring a copy of the SSN. Maybe the person isn’t explaining it well or your student isn’t understanding?


it's on the info packet distributed to all interested students DC took a picture of that W-4/VA-4 section to show me the exact languages.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have never had to show a SS card, which is good, because I e never had one. Good grief. Is this something I should figure out how to get for my kid? I assume it’s like birth and marriage certificates, where you can pay for an official certified copy from Richmond or whatever?


Yes. You should have gotten one when your kid was a baby.

Huh. Do you yours from when you were a baby? Is this actually something most people have? I have never once needed it. I’ve never had one as an adult. If my parents had one for me, they never mentioned it. I’ve had a passport since I was 14, and my kid has had one since she was 5. That’s all we’ve ever needed.

If you got a SSN for your child, then you must have been given the card.

As far as I am aware, most people do this when the baby is born. I think it might be in the set of docs the hospital gives, one of which is for ordering a copy of the birth certificate.

Our DMV also requires the SSN (not the physical card, just the number) to issue a new state ID/learner permit/license.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:actually it's not for I-9. instead it's to "confirm Form W-4 info is correct." ok fine but why must it be the original card? absurd.

Yeah, that’s weird. The W-4 is about tax deduction withholding, completely separate and distinct from I-9 employment verification. And the IRS instructions for W-4 say nothing about requiring a copy of the SSN. Maybe the person isn’t explaining it well or your student isn’t understanding?


it's on the info packet distributed to all interested students DC took a picture of that W-4/VA-4 section to show me the exact languages.


i'm really curious why the school demanded that. millions of new hires fill out the W-4 all the time without HR asking for original card. makes no sense.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have never had to show a SS card, which is good, because I e never had one. Good grief. Is this something I should figure out how to get for my kid? I assume it’s like birth and marriage certificates, where you can pay for an official certified copy from Richmond or whatever?


Yes. You should have gotten one when your kid was a baby.

Huh. Do you yours from when you were a baby? Is this actually something most people have? I have never once needed it. I’ve never had one as an adult. If my parents had one for me, they never mentioned it. I’ve had a passport since I was 14, and my kid has had one since she was 5. That’s all we’ve ever needed.

If you got a SSN for your child, then you must have been given the card.

As far as I am aware, most people do this when the baby is born. I think it might be in the set of docs the hospital gives, one of which is for ordering a copy of the birth certificate.

Our DMV also requires the SSN (not the physical card, just the number) to issue a new state ID/learner permit/license.

Of course she has a SSN and we know what it is (we file taxes, after all). I think we did get a card when she was a baby, but hell if I know where it is after 3 moves. I’ve never had one, as I said, or needed one (if my parents had it, which it sounds like they must have, they never gave it to me), so I guess I never figured the physical card was important after nearly 50 years without it. Didn’t need DD’s to get her a passport at age 5, and the passport is all we’ve ever needed to get anything else (like learner’s and license).

I’m inclined not to worry about trying to get a reissued card at this point when a passport seems to work for everything, but we’ll see.
Anonymous
I’m sure Elon Musk in now in possession of all our kids’ SSNs anyway…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m sure Elon Musk in now in possession of all our kids’ SSNs anyway…


They didn’t give it to you because you can’t even keep track of your child’s card.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:actually it's not for I-9. instead it's to "confirm Form W-4 info is correct." ok fine but why must it be the original card? absurd.

Yeah, that’s weird. The W-4 is about tax deduction withholding, completely separate and distinct from I-9 employment verification. And the IRS instructions for W-4 say nothing about requiring a copy of the SSN. Maybe the person isn’t explaining it well or your student isn’t understanding?


it's on the info packet distributed to all interested students DC took a picture of that W-4/VA-4 section to show me the exact languages.


i'm really curious why the school demanded that. millions of new hires fill out the W-4 all the time without HR asking for original card. makes no sense.

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The W-4 and VA-4 are just the withholding forms. You have to write in your SSN but there is no language on the form itself about requiring the original SSN card. The I-9 form explicitly allows a passport, and in fact an SSN card isn’t enough on its own because it doesn’t have a photo so you need a second ID with it, while a valid passport doesn’t need anything else. Baffling to me why the school is asking for this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m sure Elon Musk in now in possession of all our kids’ SSNs anyway…


They didn’t give it to you because you can’t even keep track of your child’s card.


Uh, I’m not the OP. Mine are in a safe (though that’s probably a futile effort given how much our data has been compromised on a national level).
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