How reliable is Naviance?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn't the GPA on Naviance actually the student's GPA after *senior year* - not what they used to apply to schools? If so, I find that extremely misleading.

yes - GPA's are overstated and standardized testing can be understated.

[Anonymous]

Our school's Naviance shows Cal Tech, Harvard, Princeton and Dartmouth (only one acceptance) as highly selective but I was surprised to see how low the accepted SAT scores are at every other top school, including Yale and MIT. Some quite low like Duke. Several of my kids have gone through the high school (and still are) so I know these low SAT's scores aren't athletes - maybe test optional or other hooks but I wasn't expecting to see that...

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Anonymous wrote:Yes it is the best resource available to you. School data is the more relevant data. That said, Naviance does not show rigor. However, rigor is the most important one factor colleges evaluate an applicant's academic readiness.

It shows rigor to an extent if GPA's are weighted.

Not really. Schools around us have 0.5 bump for all honors, AP and DE. Other schools bump AP and DE to 1.0, honors 0.5, but then AP precal and APES are weighted the same as AC calc BC and AP Chem. One school calls Multivariable calc "honors" and it gets 0.5, despite being the hardest math level at the school. AO's understand the differences and they can scan a transcript quickly, using the school profile list of courses offered, and detect rigor differences easily. There are numerous videos of AOs at top unis and lacs that show the process. weighted gpa cannot reveal rigor in that way

You can absolutely see that in your school context if you look at naviance for a range of colleges. That’s the most important context for your kid anyway.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes it is the best resource available to you. School data is the more relevant data. That said, Naviance does not show rigor. However, rigor is the most important one factor colleges evaluate an applicant's academic readiness.

It shows rigor to an extent if GPA's are weighted.

Ah ours only shows unweighted GPAs so no way to assess rigor. And ofc not all APs are equally hard but ours doesn't even reflect rigor.

Our school uses Maia Learning vs. Naviance. Some other schools use Scoir.

[Anonymous]

Naviance works well if you have an average child. Not so well if you have a 1570 SAT and you are applying to elites from a competitive school. It honestly feels like a crapshoot

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My DC’s school uses SCOIR and it shows major choice. I am surprised there are schools that don’t include that information.

[Anonymous]

Naviance was not at all accurate for us since covers pre covid test optional.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes it is the best resource available to you. School data is the more relevant data. That said, Naviance does not show rigor. However, rigor is the most important one factor colleges evaluate an applicant's academic readiness.

It shows rigor to an extent if GPA's are weighted.

Many students take easier AP’s to fatten up their GPAs. Scattergrams are still useful but it’s incomplete.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DC’s school uses SCOIR and it shows major choice. I am surprised there are schools that don’t include that information.

That’s great, I’ve never heard of a school doing this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My DC’s school uses SCOIR and it shows major choice. I am surprised there are schools that don’t include that information.

That’s great, I’ve never heard of a school doing this.

Agree that is incredibly helpful.

[Anonymous]

Naviance doesn't indicate whether a kid is a sports recruit, child of a big donor, URM, etc.

So it is much less useful at schools that have a lot of students who fall into those categories.

[Anonymous]

Naviance was not reliable for my DD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Naviance doesn't indicate whether a kid is a sports recruit, child of a big donor, URM, etc.

So it is much less useful at schools that have a lot of students who fall into those categories.

My dc’s school removes donors, legacy admits, sports recruit from SCOIR scattergrams. Also lists major, whether test optional (but lists scores so you can see), and if they applied ED/EA/RD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Naviance works well if you have an average child. Not so well if you have a 1570 SAT and you are applying to elites from a competitive school. It honestly feels like a crapshoot

This isn’t true either. Just because the reach or target level is different doesn’t mean Naviance is more accurate at the “average” level. And any school that has less than a 20% acceptance rate is a crapshoot, with or without the gpa and sat data.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Naviance doesn't indicate whether a kid is a sports recruit, child of a big donor, URM, etc.

So it is much less useful at schools that have a lot of students who fall into those categories.

My dc’s school removes donors, legacy admits, sports recruit from SCOIR scattergrams. Also lists major, whether test optional (but lists scores so you can see), and if they applied ED/EA/RD

Wish we had that at our public high school. We have no idea if a score represents a test optional applicant but many of them are LOW so I'm assuming those are - but I'd love to know about the marginal ones - high 1400's. Being a part of the community I know these admits at top 15 colleges aren't athletic recruits and the demographics of the school suggest URM unlikely but certain schools like Duke and Cornell accept kids ever year and the SAT averages are 1449 and 1390! For Northwestern the average 1265! The Ivy's are much higher, other than Cornell and Brown.