Congratulations on your CS degree. Maybe you can work at Chipotle…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Somebody who majors in CS and is just a programmer (coder sounds better but it's programming) either had bad advice, is not the brightest, or went to a crap school.

Purdue, where the subject of this article went to, is a good school. It's a crap economy now, particularly for skilled labor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is amazing how quickly Computer Science degrees and coding lost value.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/10/technology/coding-ai-jobs-students.html

The future is in humanities major. Employers are going to want people capable of thinking and working with AI, not people who do the coding.

Well CS != only coding and never has been so you're not not off to a great start.

Go ahead die on that hill, you're just demonstrating the simplistic thinking that will be the downfall of the profession. Tech leaders want to eliminate white collar jobs, the test case is CS.

The test case are the jobs humanities students occupy in hr and advertising. You really don’t need many technical writers if ai can describe it better and an engineer doesn’t have to have multiple meetings just to explain the content and context to the writer.

[Anonymous]

I don't know anything about this publication ("Minding the Campus is dedicated to the revival of intellectual pluralism and the best traditions of liberal education at America's universities"), but this was an interesting article:

Worried About AI? Study the Humanities
https://www.mindingthecampus.org/2025/07/07/worried-about-ai-study-the-humanities/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is amazing how quickly Computer Science degrees and coding lost value.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/10/technology/coding-ai-jobs-students.html

The future is in humanities major. Employers are going to want people capable of thinking and working with AI, not people who do the coding.

Well CS != only coding and never has been so you're not not off to a great start.

Go ahead die on that hill, you're just demonstrating the simplistic thinking that will be the downfall of the profession. Tech leaders want to eliminate white collar jobs, the test case is CS.

The test case are the jobs humanities students occupy in hr and advertising. You really don’t need many technical writers if ai can describe it better and an engineer doesn’t have to have multiple meetings just to explain the content and context to the writer.

The HR roll out, which is largely in the tech sector, is directly impacting CS students in their job search. Go figure, the bot responses are heaviest for CS jobs, real students have trouble cutting through.

[Anonymous]

A lot of people in the humanities oversell themselves. I studied physics and English. The idea that English has a more emotionally intelligent angle than physics is complete bs. Physics requires communication, cooperation, problem solving, and clear scientific writing. Emotional intelligence and regulation is essential to navigating the lab and being a productive member.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Somebody who majors in CS and is just a programmer (coder sounds better but it's programming) either had bad advice, is not the brightest, or went to a crap school.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is amazing how quickly Computer Science degrees and coding lost value.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/10/technology/coding-ai-jobs-students.html

The future is in humanities major. Employers are going to want people capable of thinking and working with AI, not people who do the coding.

Let's hope people believe this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people in the humanities oversell themselves. I studied physics and English. The idea that English has a more emotionally intelligent angle than physics is complete bs. Physics requires communication, cooperation, problem solving, and clear scientific writing. Emotional intelligence and regulation is essential to navigating the lab and being a productive member.

+1
Also, top schools especially do not merely teach tech and lab skills to stem majors. They teach thinking , analysis, creative problem solving and teamwork, on top of the latest engineering /physics/programming/applied math skills, depending on major. Writing is an integral part of these schools curriculum, stem and non. Choose a top school and you will be set for life. And no I do not mean the narrow minded Dcum view of top(T10/ivy or wasp), I mean one of the top 30-35 privates, one of the top 15 or 20 LACs and one of the top 20-25ish publics. That’s 75 or so schools, some significantly less selective but still provide an outstanding education.
The only people who need the t10/ivy are a small segment of students who are uber bright and also happen to be chasing some of the most elite subsections of fields. Most regular-bright students would do fine at any of the 75 or so above

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This student had zero internships, extracurriculars, research, or on-campus jobs in college. I don't think they're a good barometer for career prospects.

Ding ding ding. Purdue is a great school, the student is not representative of typical students in the market for a job

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is amazing how quickly Computer Science degrees and coding lost value.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/10/technology/coding-ai-jobs-students.html

The future is in humanities major. Employers are going to want people capable of thinking and working with AI, not people who do the coding.

Well CS != only coding and never has been so you're not not off to a great start.

Go ahead die on that hill, you're just demonstrating the simplistic thinking that will be the downfall of the profession. Tech leaders want to eliminate white collar jobs, the test case is CS.

The test case are the jobs humanities students occupy in hr and advertising. You really don’t need many technical writers if ai can describe it better and an engineer doesn’t have to have multiple meetings just to explain the content and context to the writer.

True, CS students should target advertising. A programmer I know was laid off from bio-tech but found work at company running instantaneous auctions to micro-target smart tv ads to the individual household. This is where the jobs are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This student had zero internships, extracurriculars, research, or on-campus jobs in college. I don't think they're a good barometer for career prospects.

Ding ding ding. Purdue is a great school, the student is not representative of typical students in the market for a job

It's been a rough economy. COVID and now the economic uncertainty where unemployment is skyrocketing. The article said the Pursue CS major looked for internships for more than a year.

And it's not just the Purdue kid.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/10/technology/coding-ai-jobs-students.html
Among them was Zach Taylor, 25, who enrolled as a computer science major at Oregon State University in 2019 partly because he had loved programming video games in high school. Tech industry jobs seemed plentiful at the time.

Since graduating in 2023, however, Mr. Taylor said, he has applied for 5,762 tech jobs. His diligence has resulted in 13 job interviews but no full-time job offers.

The job search has been one of “the most demoralizing experiences I have ever had to go through,” he added.

The electronics firm where he had a software engineering internship last year was not able to hire him, he said. This year, he applied for a job at McDonald’s to help cover expenses, but he was rejected “for lack of experience,” he said. He has since moved back home to Sherwood, Ore., and is receiving unemployment benefits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This student had zero internships, extracurriculars, research, or on-campus jobs in college. I don't think they're a good barometer for career prospects.

Ding ding ding. Purdue is a great school, the student is not representative of typical students in the market for a job

It's been a rough economy. COVID and now the economic uncertainty where unemployment is skyrocketing. The article said the Pursue CS major looked for internships for more than a year.

And it's not just the Purdue kid.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/10/technology/coding-ai-jobs-students.html
Among them was Zach Taylor, 25, who enrolled as a computer science major at Oregon State University in 2019 partly because he had loved programming video games in high school. Tech industry jobs seemed plentiful at the time.

Since graduating in 2023, however, Mr. Taylor said, he has applied for 5,762 tech jobs. His diligence has resulted in 13 job interviews but no full-time job offers.

The job search has been one of “the most demoralizing experiences I have ever had to go through,” he added.

The electronics firm where he had a software engineering internship last year was not able to hire him, he said. This year, he applied for a job at McDonald’s to help cover expenses, but he was rejected “for lack of experience,” he said. He has since moved back home to Sherwood, Ore., and is receiving unemployment benefits.

Realize this is anecdata, but I also know an OSU CS major who is living at home with no prospects a year after graduating. Resume's go unanswered. He's attending every tech meetup but he just meets people like himself.

[Anonymous]

Same article features an unemployed CS Georgetown grad. Are posters going to say that is a "bad school" too? Or just Purdue.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/10/technology/coding-ai-jobs-students.html
Recent graduates looking for government tech jobs also report increased hurdles.

Jamie Spoeri, who graduated this year from Georgetown University, said she majored in computing because she loved the logical approach to problem-solving. During college, she also learned about the environmental impacts of A.I. and grew interested in tech policy.

Last summer, she had an internship at the National Science Foundation where she worked on national security and technology issues, like the supply of critical minerals. She has since applied for more than 200 government, industry and nonprofit jobs, she said.

But recent government cutbacks and hiring freezes have made getting federal jobs difficult, she said, while A.I. coding tools have made getting entry-level software jobs at companies harder.

“It’s demoralizing to lose out on opportunities because of A.I.,” said Ms. Spoeri, 22, who grew up in Chicago. “But I think, if we can adapt and rise to the challenge, it can also open up new opportunities.”

[Anonymous]

Can someone copy and paste The NY Times article here? I'm blocked from seeing any of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone copy and paste The NY Times article here? I'm blocked from seeing any of it.

Here's the gift link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/10/technology/coding-ai-jobs-students.html?unlocked_article_code=1.dU8.uvnw._K6k3yop4wNd&smid=url-share