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It is amazing how quickly Computer Science degrees and coding lost value.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/10/technology/coding-ai-jobs-students.html The future is in humanities major. Employers are going to want people capable of thinking and working with AI, not people who do the coding. |
| They haven’t. And there aren’t jobs for humanities majors. |
Well CS != only coding and never has been so you're not not off to a great start. |
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I still think that if the student went to an college in the US they will tend to have become very well-rounded, thinkers and diverse. That's how we do college here. That's why I really hate the "test only" "scores only" people who parade into this forum and want our colleges to look like the unimaginative ones abroad.
We have something special here. Yes, I'd love to hire a bright worker who majored in CS but had to fulfill all the other strange requirements like psychology, English lit, and did clubs and live in a dorm. Nobody really wanted coder drones anyway, except for certain types of misguided parents. |
This is what a software engineer does. Unless you think Black studies majors are replacing our engineers, this is incoherent. |
The vast majority of US colleges remain test optional. I don't see how test required is limiting people with low score/no score to pursue an "imaginative" education. Only a handful of elite colleges are test required, and rightfully so. Your hate is misplaced. |
| The person featured in the lede did get a tech sales job -- not the same as working at Chipotle. Moreover, a lot of these issues are due to the over-hiring by tech firms during Covid. And finally, AI generated code is pretty low quality and needs a lot of massaging to make production ready. The need for software engineers is not going away |
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I don't know any cs grads working in Chipotle. But I do know humanities majors working at Starbucks.
My cs kid got an internship at a large tech company this summer making 40 per hour. They've asked dc to come back next year. |
Can you tell us about these humanities students working at Starbucks? |
Did you even read the post? The hatred is for the people who think the US system should be all test, and want to morph it in that direction. They are exhausting. They have institutions in other countries to attend for that model. |
| This student had zero internships, extracurriculars, research, or on-campus jobs in college. I don't think they're a good barometer for career prospects. |
+1, if you don’t do any career building during college, you won’t have a good career after college. Shocker but you actually need to grow up and plan your life. |
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Somebody who majors in CS and is just a programmer (coder sounds better but it's programming) either had bad advice, is not the brightest, or went to a crap school.
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+1 A CS major entails MORE than coding. Some ignorant people don't understand this. Are there guys who merely went to coding bootcamps? Yes, but they aren’t CS majors. Different levels here. |
Go ahead die on that hill, you're just demonstrating the simplistic thinking that will be the downfall of the profession. Tech leaders want to eliminate white collar jobs, the test case is CS. |