How is Kent Gardens if you opt out of French Immersion

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Anonymous wrote:can't see why anyone would want to speak french anyway.
Maybe Spanish, Latin, & of course Chinese is becoming important. Japanese, German I can see, they're important countries. But French? What the heck is it good for, really?

LOL. My thoughts exactly. With these types of FCPS programs, it's probably besides the point whether it continues to make sense to have a French immersion program, as opposed to a Chinese or Spanish program. It's more about whether there's a program that provides a school with extra funding, or allows staff to travel to fun places, or just makes people at the school feel special.

The bigger problem with the immersion programs (at least the French and German, don't know about the Spanish) is that the kids come out of it without being able to speak French. So much for immersion.

Is this true? I didn't see that one coming. What are they doing with their time over there if not learning to speak the language?

Yes, it is true! I know that some kids from KG that struggled when they got to Longfellow.

Struggled in what? French?

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard the "second class citizen" thing too.

I heard non immersion kids were treated first class.

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Anonymous wrote:can't see why anyone would want to speak french anyway.
Maybe Spanish, Latin, & of course Chinese is becoming important. Japanese, German I can see, they're important countries. But French? What the heck is it good for, really?

LOL. My thoughts exactly. With these types of FCPS programs, it's probably besides the point whether it continues to make sense to have a French immersion program, as opposed to a Chinese or Spanish program. It's more about whether there's a program that provides a school with extra funding, or allows staff to travel to fun places, or just makes people at the school feel special.

The bigger problem with the immersion programs (at least the French and German, don't know about the Spanish) is that the kids come out of it without being able to speak French. So much for immersion.

Is this true? I didn't see that one coming. What are they doing with their time over there if not learning to speak the language?

Yes, it is true! I know that some kids from KG that struggled when they got to Longfellow.

I heard that some kids from Chesterbrook has the same issues struggling at Longfellow.

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard the "second class citizen" thing too.

What does this mean? The students are treated as 2nd class citizens for not being in immersion?

I have known parents who felt this way at KG...they felt like the non immersion classes were a dumping ground for behavior problems. I think some of the parents of non immersion feel like the admin gives preferential treatment to the immersion parents. But who knows...every year you are going to have some behavior problems. I also know of friends in the french program who have been bullied so the behavior problems go both ways.

No one who works at the school picks and chooses the kids to go to French Immersion. In fact, there's an application process for French Immersion. A large majority of parents who are within the KG boundary are not interested in putting their kids into the French Immersion program.

Therefore, there's no such thing as non immersion classes being a "dumping ground" for behavior problems.

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Anonymous wrote:can't see why anyone would want to speak french anyway.
Maybe Spanish, Latin, & of course Chinese is becoming important. Japanese, German I can see, they're important countries. But French? What the heck is it good for, really?

What is Latin and German good for?

What is Spanish good for unless you're ordering at McDonalds or work as a landscaper?

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Anonymous wrote:can't see why anyone would want to speak french anyway.
Maybe Spanish, Latin, & of course Chinese is becoming important. Japanese, German I can see, they're important countries. But French? What the heck is it good for, really?

LOL. My thoughts exactly. With these types of FCPS programs, it's probably besides the point whether it continues to make sense to have a French immersion program, as opposed to a Chinese or Spanish program. It's more about whether there's a program that provides a school with extra funding, or allows staff to travel to fun places, or just makes people at the school feel special.

What is Chinese or Spanish even going to do for little kids. I say get rid of all these useless language programs.

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Anonymous wrote:can't see why anyone would want to speak french anyway.
Maybe Spanish, Latin, & of course Chinese is becoming important. Japanese, German I can see, they're important countries. But French? What the heck is it good for, really?

LOL. My thoughts exactly. With these types of FCPS programs, it's probably besides the point whether it continues to make sense to have a French immersion program, as opposed to a Chinese or Spanish program. It's more about whether there's a program that provides a school with extra funding, or allows staff to travel to fun places, or just makes people at the school feel special.

The bigger problem with the immersion programs (at least the French and German, don't know about the Spanish) is that the kids come out of it without being able to speak French. So much for immersion.

Is this true? I didn't see that one coming. What are they doing with their time over there if not learning to speak the language?

Yes, it is true! I know that some kids from KG that struggled when they got to Longfellow.

Spring Hill is actually pretty bad too.

The kids there go to Cooper MS, and shockingly, even though Cooper MS is not GT, only a few (low single digits) of their kids get into TJ, while Longfellow (GT) generally sends the most kids in NoVA to TJ.

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The kids there go to Cooper MS, and shockingly, even though Cooper MS is not GT, only a few (low single digits) of their kids get into TJ, while Longfellow (GT) generally sends the most kids in NoVA to TJ.

sorry, that would be Rachel Carson

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The kids there go to Cooper MS, and shockingly, even though Cooper MS is not GT, only a few (low single digits) of their kids get into TJ, while Longfellow (GT) generally sends the most kids in NoVA to TJ.

sorry, that would be Rachel Carson

Sorry, look at the last 5 years, and you'll see Longfellow sending the most kids on average. Cooper, not so much.

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Anonymous wrote:can't see why anyone would want to speak french anyway.
Maybe Spanish, Latin, & of course Chinese is becoming important. Japanese, German I can see, they're important countries. But French? What the heck is it good for, really?

What is Latin and German good for?

What is Spanish good for unless you're ordering at McDonalds or work as a landscaper?

Because no one that is a Spanish speaker is an educated professional, right?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:can't see why anyone would want to speak french anyway.
Maybe Spanish, Latin, & of course Chinese is becoming important. Japanese, German I can see, they're important countries. But French? What the heck is it good for, really?

LOL. My thoughts exactly. With these types of FCPS programs, it's probably besides the point whether it continues to make sense to have a French immersion program, as opposed to a Chinese or Spanish program. It's more about whether there's a program that provides a school with extra funding, or allows staff to travel to fun places, or just makes people at the school feel special.

What is Chinese or Spanish even going to do for little kids. I say get rid of all these useless language programs.

Bravo! Let's teach ALL kids real math and add some science instead.

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard the "second class citizen" thing too.

What does this mean? The students are treated as 2nd class citizens for not being in immersion?

I have known parents who felt this way at KG...they felt like the non immersion classes were a dumping ground for behavior problems. I think some of the parents of non immersion feel like the admin gives preferential treatment to the immersion parents. But who knows...every year you are going to have some behavior problems. I also know of friends in the french program who have been bullied so the behavior problems go both ways.

No one who works at the school picks and chooses the kids to go to French Immersion. In fact, there's an application process for French Immersion. A large majority of parents who are within the KG boundary are not interested in putting their kids into the French Immersion program.

Therefore, there's no such thing as non immersion classes being a "dumping ground" for behavior problems.

I don't know what is true and what is not but a few years ago we knew people who told us that they were hosting a french intern (somehow affiliated with KG) because it would increase their chances of getting into the french program.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:can't see why anyone would want to speak french anyway.
Maybe Spanish, Latin, & of course Chinese is becoming important. Japanese, German I can see, they're important countries. But French? What the heck is it good for, really?

What is Latin and German good for?

What is Spanish good for unless you're ordering at McDonalds or work as a landscaper?

Because no one that is a Spanish speaker is an educated professional, right?

You'll only need that if you worked in Latin America or Spain. Otherwise, it'd be a waste.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have heard the "second class citizen" thing too.

What does this mean? The students are treated as 2nd class citizens for not being in immersion?

I have known parents who felt this way at KG...they felt like the non immersion classes were a dumping ground for behavior problems. I think some of the parents of non immersion feel like the admin gives preferential treatment to the immersion parents. But who knows...every year you are going to have some behavior problems. I also know of friends in the french program who have been bullied so the behavior problems go both ways.

No one who works at the school picks and chooses the kids to go to French Immersion. In fact, there's an application process for French Immersion. A large majority of parents who are within the KG boundary are not interested in putting their kids into the French Immersion program.

Therefore, there's no such thing as non immersion classes being a "dumping ground" for behavior problems.

I don't know what is true and what is not but a few years ago we knew people who told us that they were hosting a french intern (somehow affiliated with KG) because it would increase their chances of getting into the french program.

What does this have to do with anything?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:can't see why anyone would want to speak french anyway.
Maybe Spanish, Latin, & of course Chinese is becoming important. Japanese, German I can see, they're important countries. But French? What the heck is it good for, really?

What is Latin and German good for?

What is Spanish good for unless you're ordering at McDonalds or work as a landscaper?

Because no one that is a Spanish speaker is an educated professional, right?

You'll only need that if you worked in Latin America or Spain. Otherwise, it'd be a waste.

or California.