Accelerated and Enrichment Pre-Calculus

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Regular pre-calc can lead to AB but not BC (barring exceptional circumstances)

Honors pre-calc can lead to either AB or BC.


Sadly, to which of those it leads can be determined by the school the student attends, and its administration's preference in affording course options, rather than the relative preparedness of the student.


Are you saying that some of the HSs don’t offer BC? Which ones? Is there an online option?


All schools offer Calculus BC. But not all schools let a kid go from on level PreCalc to BC
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Regular pre-calc can lead to AB but not BC (barring exceptional circumstances)

Honors pre-calc can lead to either AB or BC.


Sadly, to which of those it leads can be determined by the school the student attends, and its administration's preference in affording course options, rather than the relative preparedness of the student.


Are you saying that some of the HSs don’t offer BC? Which ones? Is there an online option?


All schools offer Calculus BC. But not all schools let a kid go from on level PreCalc to BC


And some schools guide students from other PreCalcs to AB, without consideration for BC.
Anonymous
There are two honors options, honors precalc and the A/E pre calc referenced here which is also honors but is more likely to lead to BC calc. The A/E is a more theoretical class, that is my understanding
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There are two honors options, honors precalc and the A/E pre calc referenced here which is also honors but is more likely to lead to BC calc. The A/E is a more theoretical class, that is my understanding


Is this the “Rapid Learners” section of Honors?
There are a few indirect mentions online.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/Schools/High-Schools/R-W/whitmanhs/uploadedFiles/news/427_Course_Bulletin_2017.pdf

Seems like something to comfort the students who didn’t get into Blair SMaCS or didn’t want the commute.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The course bulletin online for Whitman only has Honors and regular Precalc.

DD took Honors PreCalc this year at BCC. Her math teacher told the class that AP Calc AB would be taught at the same pace, and that AP Calc BC would be taught at a faster pace, so they should choose what they felt most comfortable with.


When schools have special versions of classes, they are often coded as regular classes for bureaucratic simplicity. Many of the Magnet classes code share with regular classes that are very different.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There are two honors options, honors precalc and the A/E pre calc referenced here which is also honors but is more likely to lead to BC calc. The A/E is a more theoretical class, that is my understanding


Both are listed in the Whitman course bulletin, and the A/E has a lengthy description:

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1-RZ_gj6VKH6k4uVIOXZbDyZ5TTMdWM1_00HxevChICE/mobilebasic
Anonymous
Regular precalculus is now remedial, "honors" is now regular, and "A/E" is what honors was before "equity."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Regular precalculus is now remedial, "honors" is now regular, and "A/E" is what honors was before "equity."


It's still not equitable, as many/most schools don't offer the A/E.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Regular pre-calc can lead to AB but not BC (barring exceptional circumstances)

Honors pre-calc can lead to either AB or BC.


Sadly, to which of those it leads can be determined by the school the student attends, and its administration's preference in affording course options, rather than the relative preparedness of the student.


Are you saying that some of the HSs don’t offer BC? Which ones? Is there an online option?


All schools offer Calculus BC. But not all schools let a kid go from on level PreCalc to BC


I’m not seeing your point. I’m not aware of anyone at any school going from on level pre calc to BC. I can envision some rare exception where a kid did outside courses or something but as a norm, no.
Anonymous
And is A/E offered at all schools?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:And is A/E offered at all schools?


Not sure, I just know of it at Whitman
Anonymous
At my kids school they only offer AP pre calc and on level.

My kid is taking calculus BC next year after taking AP pre calc
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Regular pre-calc can lead to AB but not BC (barring exceptional circumstances)

Honors pre-calc can lead to either AB or BC.


Sadly, to which of those it leads can be determined by the school the student attends, and its administration's preference in affording course options, rather than the relative preparedness of the student.


Are you saying that some of the HSs don’t offer BC? Which ones? Is there an online option?


All schools offer Calculus BC. But not all schools let a kid go from on level PreCalc to BC


I’m not seeing your point. I’m not aware of anyone at any school going from on level pre calc to BC. I can envision some rare exception where a kid did outside courses or something but as a norm, no.


Our school only has one level of precalc. So, they push all kids to do AB vs. BC. A few kids insist and go to BC directly but its very rare. There is nothing but AP stat's after BC.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Regular precalculus is now remedial, "honors" is now regular, and "A/E" is what honors was before "equity."


The interesting thing is that not every school has the A/E, so honors is still honors at those schools. But Whitman for some reason felt the need to add a level, pushing the whole ranking "down" one notch. The only reason I can imagine is parents complaining that their kids "needed" honors for the GPA boost, but not being able to handle the rigor, Whitman decided to add a true honors class above it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Regular precalculus is now remedial, "honors" is now regular, and "A/E" is what honors was before "equity."


The interesting thing is that not every school has the A/E, so honors is still honors at those schools. But Whitman for some reason felt the need to add a level, pushing the whole ranking "down" one notch. The only reason I can imagine is parents complaining that their kids "needed" honors for the GPA boost, but not being able to handle the rigor, Whitman decided to add a true honors class above it.


And that means they aren’t doing the right thing by students. And yet another example of the course craziness that the county Program Study should review and resolve. Pre-Cal is not some mythical class that needs four levels
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