What is normal drinking?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don’t say how old he is. You say he has relatives in their 60s who drink like fish, but you don’t say how old he himself is. In any event, depending on how old he is he sounds like fun.


He is 36.

Apparently his doctor told him both his fatty liver and BE are no big deal and he can drink...I don't think the doctor understands how much he drinks!

He did try to be sober for 3 years after his BE diagnosis...but he hated it and has started drinking again starting this January. I don't mean a glass of wine at dinner. In fact, I have never seen him have just 1 glass of wine or beer...ever. 1 turns into a bottle!

And of course, I am his no.1 enemy, the "not fun" wife who is a buzz kill.

I am increasingly concerned for his well being.

We met when we were 22 so...all american friends were drinking. I did not realize...he would not stop as an adult.


He is lying to you about what the doctor said to him. People like this do that. My mother always lied about what the doctor said to her.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don’t say how old he is. You say he has relatives in their 60s who drink like fish, but you don’t say how old he himself is. In any event, depending on how old he is he sounds like fun.


He is 36.

Apparently his doctor told him both his fatty liver and BE are no big deal and he can drink...I don't think the doctor understands how much he drinks!

He did try to be sober for 3 years after his BE diagnosis...but he hated it and has started drinking again starting this January. I don't mean a glass of wine at dinner. In fact, I have never seen him have just 1 glass of wine or beer...ever. 1 turns into a bottle!

And of course, I am his no.1 enemy, the "not fun" wife who is a buzz kill.

I am increasingly concerned for his well being.

We met when we were 22 so...all american friends were drinking. I did not realize...he would not stop as an adult.


Is he holding down a job? Does he drink every night at home, or is he just a weekend warrior with his friends? Do you have kids and if so how is he with them? Does he drink and drive?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don’t say how old he is. You say he has relatives in their 60s who drink like fish, but you don’t say how old he himself is. In any event, depending on how old he is he sounds like fun.


He is 36.

Apparently his doctor told him both his fatty liver and BE are no big deal and he can drink...I don't think the doctor understands how much he drinks!

He did try to be sober for 3 years after his BE diagnosis...but he hated it and has started drinking again starting this January. I don't mean a glass of wine at dinner. In fact, I have never seen him have just 1 glass of wine or beer...ever. 1 turns into a bottle!

And of course, I am his no.1 enemy, the "not fun" wife who is a buzz kill.

I am increasingly concerned for his well being.

We met when we were 22 so...all american friends were drinking. I did not realize...he would not stop as an adult.


He is lying to you about what the doctor said to him. People like this do that. My mother always lied about what the doctor said to her.


+1. Either the OP is a troll or if real the DH is lying. Doctors would never, never been unconcerned about this. My DH showed up at the hospital with symptoms from alcohol withdrawal and had the precursor to fatty liver. The doctor told him to cut out alcohol. And that was not as bad as what you're describing, medically! At this rate I'd be somewhat concerned your DH is in late stage alcoholism and will be dead soon - second the poster who mentioned getting the will in order (but use an excuse, not his alcohol consumption, and bring it up when he's sober). It can happen this young.

OP you need a support system that's not DCUM. Stat. Ideally other people who have alcoholics in their lives, because only they know the specific weirdnesses. Being the "not fun" wife and number 1 enemy can very quickly get dangerous when an alcoholic has their inhibitions lowered because they're plastered.

Do you guys have kids?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don’t say how old he is. You say he has relatives in their 60s who drink like fish, but you don’t say how old he himself is. In any event, depending on how old he is he sounds like fun.


He is 36.

Apparently his doctor told him both his fatty liver and BE are no big deal and he can drink...I don't think the doctor understands how much he drinks!

He did try to be sober for 3 years after his BE diagnosis...but he hated it and has started drinking again starting this January. I don't mean a glass of wine at dinner. In fact, I have never seen him have just 1 glass of wine or beer...ever. 1 turns into a bottle!

And of course, I am his no.1 enemy, the "not fun" wife who is a buzz kill.

I am increasingly concerned for his well being.

We met when we were 22 so...all american friends were drinking. I did not realize...he would not stop as an adult.


He can't possibly be helpful around the house or a pleasant and engaged partner. Are you from a culture where women do everything and the husbands do whatever they want?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don’t say how old he is. You say he has relatives in their 60s who drink like fish, but you don’t say how old he himself is. In any event, depending on how old he is he sounds like fun.


He is 36.

Apparently his doctor told him both his fatty liver and BE are no big deal and he can drink...I don't think the doctor understands how much he drinks!

He did try to be sober for 3 years after his BE diagnosis...but he hated it and has started drinking again starting this January. I don't mean a glass of wine at dinner. In fact, I have never seen him have just 1 glass of wine or beer...ever. 1 turns into a bottle!

And of course, I am his no.1 enemy, the "not fun" wife who is a buzz kill.

I am increasingly concerned for his well being.

We met when we were 22 so...all american friends were drinking. I did not realize...he would not stop as an adult.


He is lying to you about what the doctor said to him. People like this do that. My mother always lied about what the doctor said to her.


+1. Either the OP is a troll or if real the DH is lying. Doctors would never, never been unconcerned about this. My DH showed up at the hospital with symptoms from alcohol withdrawal and had the precursor to fatty liver. The doctor told him to cut out alcohol. And that was not as bad as what you're describing, medically! At this rate I'd be somewhat concerned your DH is in late stage alcoholism and will be dead soon - second the poster who mentioned getting the will in order (but use an excuse, not his alcohol consumption, and bring it up when he's sober). It can happen this young.

OP you need a support system that's not DCUM. Stat. Ideally other people who have alcoholics in their lives, because only they know the specific weirdnesses. Being the "not fun" wife and number 1 enemy can very quickly get dangerous when an alcoholic has their inhibitions lowered because they're plastered.

Do you guys have kids?


Op here. Why do you think this is a troll? I wish!

I was on the phone with the BE doctor when he said as long as he takes his antacid medicine, alcohol is okay.

Well, he was mostly sober for 3 years. This has started again since January and it coincides with his unhappiness being married to me. We do not have children. I think he resorts to the bottle when he is stressed or depressed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don’t say how old he is. You say he has relatives in their 60s who drink like fish, but you don’t say how old he himself is. In any event, depending on how old he is he sounds like fun.


He is 36.

Apparently his doctor told him both his fatty liver and BE are no big deal and he can drink...I don't think the doctor understands how much he drinks!

He did try to be sober for 3 years after his BE diagnosis...but he hated it and has started drinking again starting this January. I don't mean a glass of wine at dinner. In fact, I have never seen him have just 1 glass of wine or beer...ever. 1 turns into a bottle!

And of course, I am his no.1 enemy, the "not fun" wife who is a buzz kill.

I am increasingly concerned for his well being.

We met when we were 22 so...all american friends were drinking. I did not realize...he would not stop as an adult.


He can't possibly be helpful around the house or a pleasant and engaged partner. Are you from a culture where women do everything and the husbands do whatever they want?


OP here. He is not. He wants to divorce me and has been blaming everything on me. Its his reason for drinking and partying.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don’t say how old he is. You say he has relatives in their 60s who drink like fish, but you don’t say how old he himself is. In any event, depending on how old he is he sounds like fun.


He is 36.

Apparently his doctor told him both his fatty liver and BE are no big deal and he can drink...I don't think the doctor understands how much he drinks!

He did try to be sober for 3 years after his BE diagnosis...but he hated it and has started drinking again starting this January. I don't mean a glass of wine at dinner. In fact, I have never seen him have just 1 glass of wine or beer...ever. 1 turns into a bottle!

And of course, I am his no.1 enemy, the "not fun" wife who is a buzz kill.

I am increasingly concerned for his well being.

We met when we were 22 so...all american friends were drinking. I did not realize...he would not stop as an adult.


He can't possibly be helpful around the house or a pleasant and engaged partner. Are you from a culture where women do everything and the husbands do whatever they want?


OP here. He is not. He wants to divorce me and has been blaming everything on me. Its his reason for drinking and partying.


Divorce that man..ASAP



Anonymous
The bruises are from stripper spanks.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I do not come from a culture of drinking and I married an American man who comes from a white catholic family that love to party. The people party into their 60s from what I have seen. Large parties, keg stands and whole weekends related to being hungover and reminiscing the great time that was had.

My husband is similar. He does have a diagnosis of fatty liver disease and non-dysplastic Barrett's esophagus. He recently went to Vegas with a friend for a week and came home with bruises on his body. Is it normal for people to drink so much that you get bruises??

In his normal week, after I go to bed, he will stay up till 4 am and drink a bottle of wine with 4-5 beers. Sometimes 2 bottles of wine. He then sleeps in till noon. When I say this is not okay he says I am just "not fun" and don't understand his culture.

Vegas+bruises. My mind wouldn’t immediately go to excessive drinking. 😉
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don’t say how old he is. You say he has relatives in their 60s who drink like fish, but you don’t say how old he himself is. In any event, depending on how old he is he sounds like fun.


He is 36.

Apparently his doctor told him both his fatty liver and BE are no big deal and he can drink...I don't think the doctor understands how much he drinks!

He did try to be sober for 3 years after his BE diagnosis...but he hated it and has started drinking again starting this January. I don't mean a glass of wine at dinner. In fact, I have never seen him have just 1 glass of wine or beer...ever. 1 turns into a bottle!

And of course, I am his no.1 enemy, the "not fun" wife who is a buzz kill.

I am increasingly concerned for his well being.

We met when we were 22 so...all american friends were drinking. I did not realize...he would not stop as an adult.


He can't possibly be helpful around the house or a pleasant and engaged partner. Are you from a culture where women do everything and the husbands do whatever they want?


OP here. He is not. He wants to divorce me and has been blaming everything on me. Its his reason for drinking and partying.


PP with an alcoholic spouse here. My DH started just blaming things on me. It escalated badly and fast. You need a safety plan in case things go south. Read through the resources at https://www.thehotline.org/

I'm not saying you're there yet, but the possibility exists given the defense of the habit.

Even if the doctor said the BE was OK, fatty liver should lead to any doctor saying "quit now, quit forever."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don’t say how old he is. You say he has relatives in their 60s who drink like fish, but you don’t say how old he himself is. In any event, depending on how old he is he sounds like fun.


He is 36.

Apparently his doctor told him both his fatty liver and BE are no big deal and he can drink...I don't think the doctor understands how much he drinks!

He did try to be sober for 3 years after his BE diagnosis...but he hated it and has started drinking again starting this January. I don't mean a glass of wine at dinner. In fact, I have never seen him have just 1 glass of wine or beer...ever. 1 turns into a bottle!

And of course, I am his no.1 enemy, the "not fun" wife who is a buzz kill.

I am increasingly concerned for his well being.

We met when we were 22 so...all american friends were drinking. I did not realize...he would not stop as an adult.


He is lying to you about what the doctor said to him. People like this do that. My mother always lied about what the doctor said to her.


+1. Either the OP is a troll or if real the DH is lying. Doctors would never, never been unconcerned about this. My DH showed up at the hospital with symptoms from alcohol withdrawal and had the precursor to fatty liver. The doctor told him to cut out alcohol. And that was not as bad as what you're describing, medically! At this rate I'd be somewhat concerned your DH is in late stage alcoholism and will be dead soon - second the poster who mentioned getting the will in order (but use an excuse, not his alcohol consumption, and bring it up when he's sober). It can happen this young.

OP you need a support system that's not DCUM. Stat. Ideally other people who have alcoholics in their lives, because only they know the specific weirdnesses. Being the "not fun" wife and number 1 enemy can very quickly get dangerous when an alcoholic has their inhibitions lowered because they're plastered.

Do you guys have kids?


Op here. Why do you think this is a troll? I wish!

I was on the phone with the BE doctor when he said as long as he takes his antacid medicine, alcohol is okay.

Well, he was mostly sober for 3 years. This has started again since January and it coincides with his unhappiness being married to me. We do not have children. I think he resorts to the bottle when he is stressed or depressed.


If this is real you have my deepest sympathies.

I just found it hard to believe anyone wouldn't know that 8-12 drinks a night until 4 am is a huge red flag for alcohol misuse.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don’t say how old he is. You say he has relatives in their 60s who drink like fish, but you don’t say how old he himself is. In any event, depending on how old he is he sounds like fun.


He is 36.

Apparently his doctor told him both his fatty liver and BE are no big deal and he can drink...I don't think the doctor understands how much he drinks!

He did try to be sober for 3 years after his BE diagnosis...but he hated it and has started drinking again starting this January. I don't mean a glass of wine at dinner. In fact, I have never seen him have just 1 glass of wine or beer...ever. 1 turns into a bottle!

And of course, I am his no.1 enemy, the "not fun" wife who is a buzz kill.

I am increasingly concerned for his well being.

We met when we were 22 so...all american friends were drinking. I did not realize...he would not stop as an adult.


He can't possibly be helpful around the house or a pleasant and engaged partner. Are you from a culture where women do everything and the husbands do whatever they want?


OP here. He is not. He wants to divorce me and has been blaming everything on me. Its his reason for drinking and partying.

And you’re staying with this prize because…?
Anonymous
No kids and he wants a divorce?! Take him up on it and get out there. He is doing you the biggest favor of your life.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No kids and he wants a divorce?! Take him up on it and get out there. He is doing you the biggest favor of your life.


That should say "Take him up on it and get out OF there".
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don’t say how old he is. You say he has relatives in their 60s who drink like fish, but you don’t say how old he himself is. In any event, depending on how old he is he sounds like fun.


He is 36.

Apparently his doctor told him both his fatty liver and BE are no big deal and he can drink...I don't think the doctor understands how much he drinks!

He did try to be sober for 3 years after his BE diagnosis...but he hated it and has started drinking again starting this January. I don't mean a glass of wine at dinner. In fact, I have never seen him have just 1 glass of wine or beer...ever. 1 turns into a bottle!

And of course, I am his no.1 enemy, the "not fun" wife who is a buzz kill.

I am increasingly concerned for his well being.

We met when we were 22 so...all american friends were drinking. I did not realize...he would not stop as an adult.


He is lying to you about what the doctor said to him. People like this do that. My mother always lied about what the doctor said to her.


+1. Either the OP is a troll or if real the DH is lying. Doctors would never, never been unconcerned about this. My DH showed up at the hospital with symptoms from alcohol withdrawal and had the precursor to fatty liver. The doctor told him to cut out alcohol. And that was not as bad as what you're describing, medically! At this rate I'd be somewhat concerned your DH is in late stage alcoholism and will be dead soon - second the poster who mentioned getting the will in order (but use an excuse, not his alcohol consumption, and bring it up when he's sober). It can happen this young.

OP you need a support system that's not DCUM. Stat. Ideally other people who have alcoholics in their lives, because only they know the specific weirdnesses. Being the "not fun" wife and number 1 enemy can very quickly get dangerous when an alcoholic has their inhibitions lowered because they're plastered.

Do you guys have kids?


Op here. Why do you think this is a troll? I wish!

I was on the phone with the BE doctor when he said as long as he takes his antacid medicine, alcohol is okay.

Well, he was mostly sober for 3 years. This has started again since January and it coincides with his unhappiness being married to me. We do not have children. I think he resorts to the bottle when he is stressed or depressed.


Because this strains credibilty and you sound like a complete idiot that you would think this is normal. Who stays married to a person like this if you have no children.
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