GA teams that moved to ECNL

[Anonymous]

GA parents get annoyed by ECNL hats because they always try to make it sound like their kid plays for San Diego Surf. Maybe some do but statistically most do not. GA parents know that theres more crappy ECNL clubs then really good clubs. You can see it in the ranking app.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, did the Nationals keep all the same players and coaches? How many went to the Hawks? New year, new teams. Hard to really compare in the ever-changing world of youth soccer. Next year will be even more chaotic with all the age changes.

Or how many went the Jaguars? Maybe some preferred the GA.

Players left nationals to play for jaguars to stay in the GA?

I’ll take things that never happened for $200, Alex.

There has been some realignment for next year, but last year the travel range for GA in Michigan was much smaller (MI, OH, KY) than ECNL (as far as Nebraska). So certainly there were people who preferred to stay GA.

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Anonymous wrote:The season is over. How did the teams moving from GA to ECNL do? It looks like nationals didn’t put any teams into the knockout rounds.

That’s a little surprising considering they dominated in the GA and “ECNL and GA are equal”.

Same with Ukrainian Nationals.

Obviously you are asking a question you already know the answer to in order to push your narrative.

Nobody ever said teams in ECNL and GA are equal. I'm not sure why ECNL dads like you keep spouting this. Everyone knows the teams in ECNL are better because ECNL draws the better players.

But (there is always a but) that doesn't mean GA is not worth it for many players. GA provides excellent exposure opportunities. If you take any of the good ECNL players that are getting college interest and move them to a GA team, they would still get the interest and land at the same place. In that sense, the leagues are closer than people think.

Because GA parents constantly write on this board that the leagues are the same level. They aren’t. The best club from the girls Academy moved to ECNL. They got to the champions league and did not have a single team get out of the group. If they were the best team in the girls Academy and the leagues are equal, wouldn’t you expect a little bit more? Couldn’t they get at least one team to the round of 16 and then lose?

This is where people are arguing different things. It depends on what "level" means to you. For some people, level refers to how good the teams are talent wise. To other people, level means recruiting exposure. Talent wise ECNL is better. Exposure wise it's much closer. To many people the purpose of playing ECNL/GA is for recruiting exposure and the rest doesn't matter much.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The season is over. How did the teams moving from GA to ECNL do? It looks like nationals didn’t put any teams into the knockout rounds.

That’s a little surprising considering they dominated in the GA and “ECNL and GA are equal”.

Same with Ukrainian Nationals.

Obviously you are asking a question you already know the answer to in order to push your narrative.

Nobody ever said teams in ECNL and GA are equal. I'm not sure why ECNL dads like you keep spouting this. Everyone knows the teams in ECNL are better because ECNL draws the better players.

But (there is always a but) that doesn't mean GA is not worth it for many players. GA provides excellent exposure opportunities. If you take any of the good ECNL players that are getting college interest and move them to a GA team, they would still get the interest and land at the same place. In that sense, the leagues are closer than people think.

Because GA parents constantly write on this board that the leagues are the same level. They aren’t. The best club from the girls Academy moved to ECNL. They got to the champions league and did not have a single team get out of the group. If they were the best team in the girls Academy and the leagues are equal, wouldn’t you expect a little bit more? Couldn’t they get at least one team to the round of 16 and then lose?

This is where people are arguing different things. It depends on what "level" means to you. For some people, level refers to how good the teams are talent wise. To other people, level means recruiting exposure. Talent wise ECNL is better. Exposure wise it's much closer. To many people the purpose of playing ECNL/GA is for recruiting exposure and the rest doesn't matter much.

I dont believe talent wise ECNL is better than GA. What ECNL does have is a few clubs that have been around for a while that know how to develop and coach players. This translates into wins. Theres a few GA clubs like this and on both sides regular clubs are getting better and better at it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The season is over. How did the teams moving from GA to ECNL do? It looks like nationals didn’t put any teams into the knockout rounds.

That’s a little surprising considering they dominated in the GA and “ECNL and GA are equal”.

Same with Ukrainian Nationals.

Obviously you are asking a question you already know the answer to in order to push your narrative.

Nobody ever said teams in ECNL and GA are equal. I'm not sure why ECNL dads like you keep spouting this. Everyone knows the teams in ECNL are better because ECNL draws the better players.

But (there is always a but) that doesn't mean GA is not worth it for many players. GA provides excellent exposure opportunities. If you take any of the good ECNL players that are getting college interest and move them to a GA team, they would still get the interest and land at the same place. In that sense, the leagues are closer than people think.

Because GA parents constantly write on this board that the leagues are the same level. They aren’t. The best club from the girls Academy moved to ECNL. They got to the champions league and did not have a single team get out of the group. If they were the best team in the girls Academy and the leagues are equal, wouldn’t you expect a little bit more? Couldn’t they get at least one team to the round of 16 and then lose?

This is where people are arguing different things. It depends on what "level" means to you. For some people, level refers to how good the teams are talent wise. To other people, level means recruiting exposure. Talent wise ECNL is better. Exposure wise it's much closer. To many people the purpose of playing ECNL/GA is for recruiting exposure and the rest doesn't matter much.

I dont believe talent wise ECNL is better than GA. What ECNL does have is a few clubs that have been around for a while that know how to develop and coach players. This translates into wins. Theres a few GA clubs like this and on both sides regular clubs are getting better and better at it.

You may not want to believe it, but it’s true. And more importantly it isn’t true because somehow ECNL is magical, it’s simply because ECNL showcases have more college coaches than GA, and College programs have limited budget to travel so they prioritize ECNL. It’s become a self-improving cycle.

And for all you slow-wits harping about team - Colleges do not recruit teams, they recruit players.

There will be P4 recruits coming from the literal bottom teams in ECNL every year because colleges recruit the PLAYER, not the team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The season is over. How did the teams moving from GA to ECNL do? It looks like nationals didn’t put any teams into the knockout rounds.

That’s a little surprising considering they dominated in the GA and “ECNL and GA are equal”.

Same with Ukrainian Nationals.

Obviously you are asking a question you already know the answer to in order to push your narrative.

Nobody ever said teams in ECNL and GA are equal. I'm not sure why ECNL dads like you keep spouting this. Everyone knows the teams in ECNL are better because ECNL draws the better players.

But (there is always a but) that doesn't mean GA is not worth it for many players. GA provides excellent exposure opportunities. If you take any of the good ECNL players that are getting college interest and move them to a GA team, they would still get the interest and land at the same place. In that sense, the leagues are closer than people think.

Because GA parents constantly write on this board that the leagues are the same level. They aren’t. The best club from the girls Academy moved to ECNL. They got to the champions league and did not have a single team get out of the group. If they were the best team in the girls Academy and the leagues are equal, wouldn’t you expect a little bit more? Couldn’t they get at least one team to the round of 16 and then lose?

This is where people are arguing different things. It depends on what "level" means to you. For some people, level refers to how good the teams are talent wise. To other people, level means recruiting exposure. Talent wise ECNL is better. Exposure wise it's much closer. To many people the purpose of playing ECNL/GA is for recruiting exposure and the rest doesn't matter much.

I dont believe talent wise ECNL is better than GA. What ECNL does have is a few clubs that have been around for a while that know how to develop and coach players. This translates into wins. Theres a few GA clubs like this and on both sides regular clubs are getting better and better at it.

You may not want to believe it, but it’s true. And more importantly it isn’t true because somehow ECNL is magical, it’s simply because ECNL showcases have more college coaches than GA, and College programs have limited budget to travel so they prioritize ECNL. It’s become a self-improving cycle.

And for all you slow-wits harping about team - Colleges do not recruit teams, they recruit players.

There will be P4 recruits coming from the literal bottom teams in ECNL every year because colleges recruit the PLAYER, not the team.

I dont have to worry about it because my kids GA team plays ECNL clubs all the time in friendlies and in tournaments and they often end up with the win. At this point its humerus watching big ECNL clubs pull strings to avoid my kids team in tournaments.

Your BS about recruiters means nothing most big colleges attend GA events and if theyre not attending we can go to whatever camp they put on to get noticed. Not concerned. In fact we're currently sifting through several options.

[Anonymous]

Once again, no one questions that your child’s magical GA team is better than lots of ECNL teams. No one cares. Teams are meaningless because ECNL (and GA) are development/exposure leagues. Congratulations on the offers your kid has, that’s great! But realistically the odds are simply better for ECNL players. And the vast vast majority of ECNL and GA players are simply looking to play in college. That’s the end of their formal journey.

I was a GA dad, and then I was an ECNL dad. It was blantanly obvious that ECNL had done a better marketing hob to college coaches, and that my DD got seen by more of the schools that were interested in her, more often, then in GA.

Both teams helped make her a successful college player; but parents who are in the midst of the whole fight need to be laser focused on the fact that coaches really don’t care about your team’s record. They care about your kid.
Sure, there’s maybe a half-dozen clubs in America that give you a boost. None are around here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Once again, no one questions that your child’s magical GA team is better than lots of ECNL teams. No one cares. Teams are meaningless because ECNL (and GA) are development/exposure leagues. Congratulations on the offers your kid has, that’s great! But realistically the odds are simply better for ECNL players. And the vast vast majority of ECNL and GA players are simply looking to play in college. That’s the end of their formal journey.

I was a GA dad, and then I was an ECNL dad. It was blantanly obvious that ECNL had done a better marketing hob to college coaches, and that my DD got seen by more of the schools that were interested in her, more often, then in GA.

Both teams helped make her a successful college player; but parents who are in the midst of the whole fight need to be laser focused on the fact that coaches really don’t care about your team’s record. They care about your kid.
Sure, there’s maybe a half-dozen clubs in America that give you a boost. None are around here.

Sounds like you're saying that snooty expensive schools try their best to market to snooty parents.

Logically it doesnt make sense for colleges to skip over certain clubs and players just because of the league they play in. Before the ranking app it made sense to group by league because there was to way to consistently compare. Now with the ranking app recruiters know exactly which clubs are developing top talent.

GA has been fine for us + getting visability.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Once again, no one questions that your child’s magical GA team is better than lots of ECNL teams. No one cares. Teams are meaningless because ECNL (and GA) are development/exposure leagues. Congratulations on the offers your kid has, that’s great! But realistically the odds are simply better for ECNL players. And the vast vast majority of ECNL and GA players are simply looking to play in college. That’s the end of their formal journey.

I was a GA dad, and then I was an ECNL dad. It was blantanly obvious that ECNL had done a better marketing hob to college coaches, and that my DD got seen by more of the schools that were interested in her, more often, then in GA.

Both teams helped make her a successful college player; but parents who are in the midst of the whole fight need to be laser focused on the fact that coaches really don’t care about your team’s record. They care about your kid.
Sure, there’s maybe a half-dozen clubs in America that give you a boost. None are around here.

I disagree that the odds are better for ECNL players. It's correlation not causation. The fact is the ECNL players are better, which means if those same players were on a GA team, they would still get the same interest from colleges. If you are a good player getting exposure will not be a problem in GA. If you are middle of the pack player, ECNL might be more difficult to get noticed because the players around you are better. Small fish, big pond. Regardless of if you are ECNL or GA, you need to market yourself to coaches and then perform on the field when they are there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, no one questions that your child’s magical GA team is better than lots of ECNL teams. No one cares. Teams are meaningless because ECNL (and GA) are development/exposure leagues. Congratulations on the offers your kid has, that’s great! But realistically the odds are simply better for ECNL players. And the vast vast majority of ECNL and GA players are simply looking to play in college. That’s the end of their formal journey.

I was a GA dad, and then I was an ECNL dad. It was blantanly obvious that ECNL had done a better marketing hob to college coaches, and that my DD got seen by more of the schools that were interested in her, more often, then in GA.

Both teams helped make her a successful college player; but parents who are in the midst of the whole fight need to be laser focused on the fact that coaches really don’t care about your team’s record. They care about your kid.
Sure, there’s maybe a half-dozen clubs in America that give you a boost. None are around here.

I disagree that the odds are better for ECNL players. It's correlation not causation. The fact is the ECNL players are better, which means if those same players were on a GA team, they would still get the same interest from colleges. If you are a good player getting exposure will not be a problem in GA. If you are middle of the pack player, ECNL might be more difficult to get noticed because the players around you are better. Small fish, big pond. Regardless of if you are ECNL or GA, you need to market yourself to coaches and then perform on the field when they are there.

GA teams that are ranked higher than ECNL teams dont have better players?

Im sorry that your bubble has burst but people (including coaches and recruiters) see though the nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, no one questions that your child’s magical GA team is better than lots of ECNL teams. No one cares. Teams are meaningless because ECNL (and GA) are development/exposure leagues. Congratulations on the offers your kid has, that’s great! But realistically the odds are simply better for ECNL players. And the vast vast majority of ECNL and GA players are simply looking to play in college. That’s the end of their formal journey.

I was a GA dad, and then I was an ECNL dad. It was blantanly obvious that ECNL had done a better marketing hob to college coaches, and that my DD got seen by more of the schools that were interested in her, more often, then in GA.

Both teams helped make her a successful college player; but parents who are in the midst of the whole fight need to be laser focused on the fact that coaches really don’t care about your team’s record. They care about your kid.
Sure, there’s maybe a half-dozen clubs in America that give you a boost. None are around here.

I disagree that the odds are better for ECNL players. It's correlation not causation. The fact is the ECNL players are better, which means if those same players were on a GA team, they would still get the same interest from colleges. If you are a good player getting exposure will not be a problem in GA. If you are middle of the pack player, ECNL might be more difficult to get noticed because the players around you are better. Small fish, big pond. Regardless of if you are ECNL or GA, you need to market yourself to coaches and then perform on the field when they are there.

GA teams that are ranked higher than ECNL teams dont have better players?

Im sorry that your bubble has burst but people (including coaches and recruiters) see though the nonsense.

Don’t be a moron. Of course there are SOME GA teams that are better than SOME ECNL teams. That doesn’t change the fact that there are more good players in ECNL, as evidenced by more going to play D1 by almost 4 to 1.

But that does NOT mean your daughter has a 4x better chance of playing D1 by playing ECNL. If your daughter is good enough to play D1 she will play D1 whether she plays ECNL or GA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, no one questions that your child’s magical GA team is better than lots of ECNL teams. No one cares. Teams are meaningless because ECNL (and GA) are development/exposure leagues. Congratulations on the offers your kid has, that’s great! But realistically the odds are simply better for ECNL players. And the vast vast majority of ECNL and GA players are simply looking to play in college. That’s the end of their formal journey.

I was a GA dad, and then I was an ECNL dad. It was blantanly obvious that ECNL had done a better marketing hob to college coaches, and that my DD got seen by more of the schools that were interested in her, more often, then in GA.

Both teams helped make her a successful college player; but parents who are in the midst of the whole fight need to be laser focused on the fact that coaches really don’t care about your team’s record. They care about your kid.
Sure, there’s maybe a half-dozen clubs in America that give you a boost. None are around here.

I disagree that the odds are better for ECNL players. It's correlation not causation. The fact is the ECNL players are better, which means if those same players were on a GA team, they would still get the same interest from colleges. If you are a good player getting exposure will not be a problem in GA. If you are middle of the pack player, ECNL might be more difficult to get noticed because the players around you are better. Small fish, big pond. Regardless of if you are ECNL or GA, you need to market yourself to coaches and then perform on the field when they are there.

GA teams that are ranked higher than ECNL teams dont have better players?

Im sorry that your bubble has burst but people (including coaches and recruiters) see though the nonsense.

Don’t be a moron. Of course there are SOME GA teams that are better than SOME ECNL teams. That doesn’t change the fact that there are more good players in ECNL, as evidenced by more going to play D1 by almost 4 to 1.

But that does NOT mean your daughter has a 4x better chance of playing D1 by playing ECNL. If your daughter is good enough to play D1 she will play D1 whether she plays ECNL or GA.

Don't use the word "moron" on this site or people will complain and mods will delete your posts.

Other than that I agree with you. The old way of thinking that playing in girls ECNL is some kind of magic ticket to college soccer isnt true any more. Players need to be at the top of whatever league they play in to have visability to college coaches. Also yes D1 players will find their way to D1 teams no matter where they play. Isn't have of Florida States womens team foreign nationals?