Is it really that unrealistic to hope for a viable 3rd party in 2028?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder....are we ready to have a viable 3rd party candidate that can break away from the extreme progressive Democrats and the extreme conservative Republicans?

Am I living in a dream world?

I want a grassroots candidate to rise from the ashes left behind by both parties. At this point I'm leaning towards voting for that mythical candidate.

The progressive democrats are a fringe who don't control the agenda. Thd mainstream MAGA republicans are white christian nationalists are imposing their will on the country. But sure, "both sides"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder....are we ready to have a viable 3rd party candidate that can break away from the extreme progressive Democrats and the extreme conservative Republicans?

Am I living in a dream world?

I want a grassroots candidate to rise from the ashes left behind by both parties. At this point I'm leaning towards voting for that mythical candidate.

LOL. You mean those “extreme progressives” like Joe Biden?

I don't think he "personally" was an extreme progressive (I voted for him in 2020). But many Democratic policies and values have become too extremely progressive. That being said I did vote for Harris in 2024 as an anti-Trumper....lessor of two evils vote.

Ya, having pesky healthcare options is so extreme. Certainly much better than no healthcare options, high costs due to tariffs and labor shortages and being subjugated serfs of the oligarch class.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This always cracks me up. There's hardly any daylight between Republicans and establishment Democrats, and some of you morons are still looking for something in this mythical righteous "center." Please tell me, where the center on the issue of genocide? How does one compromise on human rights? What exactly has all this compromise done for us?

Every right you currently enjoy was fought for you with the blood of progressives.

99 percent of Americans don't give a f%$k about Gaza. But since progressives have taken over the Democratic Party, this is everything for them. Not health care. Not the environment. Not income inequality. Not retirement or pensions. Not schools. Not public safety. It's Gaza Gaza Gaza all the time with progressives. Modern progressives are the worst thing that's ever happened to the Democratic Party.

There's a huge space for a third party that actually addresses the issues that American care about. But unfortunately, this is systematically a two party system. Only a charismatic billionaire has a chance at a viable third party candidacy. And that's not great either. In the meantime, the big tent party does better - and that is definitely not Democrats today.

You need to get out of your right wing bubble. The Dems support things like healthcare and insurance that the average Amercian can afford, supports the EPA, green energy and other elements that ensure clean air and water. supports a progressive, not regressive tax agenda and a minimum wage and safe working conditions. the GOP not only doesn't support these things, they are dismanlting what we had.

They are not the same.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This always cracks me up. There's hardly any daylight between Republicans and establishment Democrats, and some of you morons are still looking for something in this mythical righteous "center." Please tell me, where the center on the issue of genocide? How does one compromise on human rights? What exactly has all this compromise done for us?

Every right you currently enjoy was fought for you with the blood of progressives.

99 percent of Americans don't give a f%$k about Gaza. But since progressives have taken over the Democratic Party, this is everything for them. Not health care. Not the environment. Not income inequality. Not retirement or pensions. Not schools. Not public safety. It's Gaza Gaza Gaza all the time with progressives. Modern progressives are the worst thing that's ever happened to the Democratic Party.

There's a huge space for a third party that actually addresses the issues that American care about. But unfortunately, this is systematically a two party system. Only a charismatic billionaire has a chance at a viable third party candidacy. And that's not great either. In the meantime, the big tent party does better - and that is definitely not Democrats today.

All of those things are still important to progressives, but you'll have to excuse our concern for an ongoing freaking genocide.

Here's the thing...Gaza isn't the only place that "genocide" is happening or will happen. It's happening in other places too like Sudan. But that's not plastered all over the news. Progressives only seem to care about genocide in Gaza. Why aren't they protesting ALL occurrences around the world of genocide?

They are. It just gets no coverage from the media, which does the bidding of the right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder....are we ready to have a viable 3rd party candidate that can break away from the extreme progressive Democrats and the extreme conservative Republicans?

Am I living in a dream world?

I want a grassroots candidate to rise from the ashes left behind by both parties. At this point I'm leaning towards voting for that mythical candidate.

Trump will ban all future elections, dum dum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder....are we ready to have a viable 3rd party candidate that can break away from the extreme progressive Democrats and the extreme conservative Republicans?

Am I living in a dream world?

I want a grassroots candidate to rise from the ashes left behind by both parties. At this point I'm leaning towards voting for that mythical candidate.

I hope so. I do not think the Dems are planning to go after republicans if they win. We need to move away from these moderates. Trump has shown us what EO can do if there is a will. We could arrest and deport a lot of republicans, Fox News talking heads/producers, take over Twitter, arrest SCOTUS on bribery, etc. There is just no will or desire to make nice and ignore what these republicans have done.

It is time to strike back at republicans with the tools they use on US citizens. Birth right citizenship can be stripped from Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. ICE and the national guard can move in to Texas and Florida.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This always cracks me up. There's hardly any daylight between Republicans and establishment Democrats, and some of you morons are still looking for something in this mythical righteous "center." Please tell me, where the center on the issue of genocide? How does one compromise on human rights? What exactly has all this compromise done for us?

Every right you currently enjoy was fought for you with the blood of progressives.

99 percent of Americans don't give a f%$k about Gaza. But since progressives have taken over the Democratic Party, this is everything for them. Not health care. Not the environment. Not income inequality. Not retirement or pensions. Not schools. Not public safety. It's Gaza Gaza Gaza all the time with progressives. Modern progressives are the worst thing that's ever happened to the Democratic Party.

There's a huge space for a third party that actually addresses the issues that American care about. But unfortunately, this is systematically a two party system. Only a charismatic billionaire has a chance at a viable third party candidacy. And that's not great either. In the meantime, the big tent party does better - and that is definitely not Democrats today.

All of those things are still important to progressives, but you'll have to excuse our concern for an ongoing freaking genocide.

Here's the thing...Gaza isn't the only place that "genocide" is happening or will happen. It's happening in other places too like Sudan. But that's not plastered all over the news. Progressives only seem to care about genocide in Gaza. Why aren't they protesting ALL occurrences around the world of genocide?

You should have been in Venice this week to ask a few small people

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder....are we ready to have a viable 3rd party candidate that can break away from the extreme progressive Democrats and the extreme conservative Republicans?

Am I living in a dream world?

I want a grassroots candidate to rise from the ashes left behind by both parties. At this point I'm leaning towards voting for that mythical candidate.

I hope so. I do not think the Dems are planning to go after republicans if they win. We need to move away from these moderates. Trump has shown us what EO can do if there is a will. We could arrest and deport a lot of republicans, Fox News talking heads/producers, take over Twitter, arrest SCOTUS on bribery, etc. There is just no will or desire to make nice and ignore what these republicans have done.

It is time to strike back at republicans with the tools they use on US citizens. Birth right citizenship can be stripped from Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. ICE and the national guard can move in to Texas and Florida.

Do you think orange cares? Fewer opponents for his family. while they take aim at the ones you list above, will they also accompany flotus to Slovenia?

[Anonymous]

No, the ruling elite would never allow it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it's that unrealistic.

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+1 look into first past the post voting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We need to first get big money out of politics and reform the electoral college or implement rank choice voting country wide, then they have a chance. Right now? No chance, the system is built for 2 parties.

Vote toward progress, not perfection.

No, vote for competency and real world results on key city issues like crime, taxes and affordability.

Not lofty and debatable “progress” concepts divorced from people’s day to day reality.

BINGO

Change in what two parties dominate US politics is too progressive for progressives. You can understand this with ultra conservatives. I hope Andrew Yang can help.

[Anonymous]

3rd parties aren't even viable at the local level. Heck, DC can't even get a 2nd part off the ground.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:3rd parties do not work under our federal system of voting. The Constitution is structurally biased toward two large parties that vie for the median voter.

Yes. The 17th amendment did a lot of damage.

[Anonymous]

So there is no way I see a 3rd party emerging from the center. BUT I do eonder if there are enough from each side who want change / no war / focus on domestic polities but also okay with those policies being progressive to make a 3rd party.

[Anonymous]

I love to see a real republican come back into the race- not crazy maga but the real deal.