T-25 schools Known for Grade Inflation??

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard, Amherst (if you count them)

seriously Amherst? I know Williams is the opposite

Amherst has easy As everywhere. Big difference in student bodies at Williams versus Amherst

Influence of near complete isolation and the tutorial program. Williams attracts a very intense personality.

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Anonymous wrote:How are Emory/Wash U/Tufts when it comes to grade inflation?

Inflated, especially Tufts although it isn't T25.

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Why? What’s the purpose ?

My kids went to a hard private with zero inflation—unlike our public school system.

They probably would like some “non-stressed” learning.

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Anonymous wrote:Literally all of the private ones, the average GPA is above a 3.7

Even at Caltech

Penn Engineering school is just above 3.6. CAS is 3.7 and Wharton is 3.8+

Cornell at least 3 years ago was 3.6ish across most undergrad schools.

Rumor is Princeton is also around 3.6 but I do not have data on that one

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard and Brown are the most notorious for grade inflation. Especially Harvard. But I think the rest of the T25 are pretty reflective of the quality of their students overall. People are earning their grades at Princeton, MIT, Rice, CalTech, Berkeley, Penn, Northwestern, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, even Vanderbilt, Yale and Chicago, and so on. Harvard and Brown are the outliers. If you want to coast, Harvard and Brown are the schools for that student.

Have to add Duke. 3.9 is the average. If you are below 3.9 at Duke, sorry you are coasting.

Total BS.
3.9 is not the average at Duke. 3.92 is the most recent cutoff for the top 25%.
3.81 was the median for 2024 because our close relative was a hair above and knew from the med admissions committee letter lists the median for each graduating class. However 3.81 is certainly quite high of a median, higher than most ivies.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard and Brown are the most notorious for grade inflation. Especially Harvard. But I think the rest of the T25 are pretty reflective of the quality of their students overall. People are earning their grades at Princeton, MIT, Rice, CalTech, Berkeley, Penn, Northwestern, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, even Vanderbilt, Yale and Chicago, and so on. Harvard and Brown are the outliers. If you want to coast, Harvard and Brown are the schools for that student.

Have to add Duke. 3.9 is the average. If you are below 3.9 at Duke, sorry you are coasting.

Total BS.
3.9 is not the average at Duke. 3.92 is the most recent cutoff for the top 25%.
3.81 was the median for 2024 because our close relative was a hair above and knew from the med admissions committee letter lists the median for each graduating class. However 3.81 is certainly quite high of a median, higher than most ivies.

Duke website says 3.963 25% 2025 (trinity). 3.933 for Pratt 2025.

PP says “average” not median. Either way, Duke is inflated.

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It would be great if there were more transparency.

UC Berkeley lists the average grade by course:

Chemistry 4 (intended for majors in physical, biological sciences, and engineering) average grade for course was 2.93.

Biology 1A was 2.97

Computer Science 40 average was 3.16

Math Linear Algebra and Differential Equations average 2.99

Math 1A: Calculus: average grade 3.06

Math 16 A Analytic Geo & Calculus average 2.95

Econ 1: average 3.15

Electrical Engineering Computer Science: Average 3.33 (44% of students got a B)


Even upper division course can be GPA killers

Molecular and Cell Biology 102 average GPA 2.86

Econ 100A average 3.08

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Anonymous wrote:It would be great if there were more transparency.

UC Berkeley lists the average grade by course:

Chemistry 4 (intended for majors in physical, biological sciences, and engineering) average grade for course was 2.93.

Biology 1A was 2.97

Computer Science 40 average was 3.16

Math Linear Algebra and Differential Equations average 2.99

Math 1A: Calculus: average grade 3.06

Math 16 A Analytic Geo & Calculus average 2.95

Econ 1: average 3.15

Electrical Engineering Computer Science: Average 3.33 (44% of students got a B)


Even upper division course can be GPA killers

Molecular and Cell Biology 102 average GPA 2.86

Econ 100A average 3.08

Berkeley artificially deflates goals and has a wide range of students at the institution. It’s really not the best example.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How are Emory/Wash U/Tufts when it comes to grade inflation?

Inflated, especially Tufts although it isn't T25.

Literally don’t know what you’re talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard and Brown are the most notorious for grade inflation. Especially Harvard. But I think the rest of the T25 are pretty reflective of the quality of their students overall. People are earning their grades at Princeton, MIT, Rice, CalTech, Berkeley, Penn, Northwestern, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, even Vanderbilt, Yale and Chicago, and so on. Harvard and Brown are the outliers. If you want to coast, Harvard and Brown are the schools for that student.

Have to add Duke. 3.9 is the average. If you are below 3.9 at Duke, sorry you are coasting.

Total BS.
3.9 is not the average at Duke. 3.92 is the most recent cutoff for the top 25%.
3.81 was the median for 2024 because our close relative was a hair above and knew from the med admissions committee letter lists the median for each graduating class. However 3.81 is certainly quite high of a median, higher than most ivies.

Duke website says 3.963 25% 2025 (trinity). 3.933 for Pratt 2025.

PP says “average” not median. Either way, Duke is inflated.

No that is not what the chart on the website says. Cum laude is top 25%, you pulled the magna numbers(top 15%). For the 2025 graduating class ie 4yr cumulative, pratt was 3.90 top25% and 3.94 for trinity. The PP seems to have been using their 2024 graduates numbers.

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Anonymous wrote:We hear a lot about the T-10’s but what about the T-10-T-25??

It doesn't matter the undergrad will be compared to their school metrics for MD, phD, Law school, and even some high-level consulting. Everyone who matters can get the info on gpa ranges from target schools. Harvard and Brown are not significantly helped by their mild relative inflation over peer schools.

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All of them. Literally all of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Harvard and Brown are the most notorious for grade inflation. Especially Harvard. But I think the rest of the T25 are pretty reflective of the quality of their students overall. People are earning their grades at Princeton, MIT, Rice, CalTech, Berkeley, Penn, Northwestern, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, even Vanderbilt, Yale and Chicago, and so on. Harvard and Brown are the outliers. If you want to coast, Harvard and Brown are the schools for that student.

If they get in

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Anonymous wrote:Literally all of the private ones, the average GPA is above a 3.7

Even at Caltech

Wow! I never thought I'd live to see the day that Caltech has grade inflation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Literally all of the private ones, the average GPA is above a 3.7

Even at Caltech

Not Harvey Mudd.