Not everyone religious is crazy, but it helps.

Anonymous
I think the extremes in ALL religions, including my own, are dangerous and detrimental.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think part of the problem is that the Abrahamic religions push people to believe that they are special (a chosen people) and that only their system of faith will lead to eternal bliss. Thus, even though Jesus preached against any form of violence, there is almost always violence going on somewhere in the world based on one of the Abrahamic belief systems.


I think that there's violence going on because people are basically violent. and mean, etc. etc. and nice, too.

People use religion to be violent or not. But people don't need religion to be violent or nice. That's just the way we are.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think you, as well as many people on this forum, are very quick to make religion the culprit in every bad situation. Obviously, Vance Boelter wasn’t living what his faith taught.


Would that be true of the entire Republican party, then, right now? I mean anyone can interpret what they want out of whatever they want. And, I think that is the problem. Religion is based on a lot of abstract concepts that can't ever be proved, so anyone can make it what they want it to be. Looks like the beginnjngs of Gilead at this time in history.

I think of slavery in this country. That was also based on biblical ideas. I think of the suppression and repression of women- all religion. I think of wars past and present- again.


PP here. I really could care less about the Republican Party and it is not the spokesperson for Christianity. You’ve coupled that along with a slew of problems and blamed religion (and most likely, Christian-based religions), ignoring the fact that many Christians rose up to oppose these very problems.
Again, blatant persecution of Christianity by people on this forum is rampant.

Uh, look around. Christianity is being used in disgusting ways, once again, in this country. What is being persecuted is the way people are using Christianity to grift, to lie, to power grab, to abuse, to contort, to kill, to deport, to repress. Plenty of Christians are calling these very actions, in the name of what they thought was their religion, out. "Not in our name" is what I am hearing.
Anonymous
You look around. There are plenty of faithful Christians doing very good things in the world.
Anonymous
You continue to make the Republican Party the poster child for Christianity. It’s not. So, anything the RP does is automatically pinned by many of the users of this forum as something that Christianity as a whole endorses when, in fact, it doesn’t and in many cases, it is opposed to it.
Anonymous
Oh, yes. All those radical extreme …… Lutherans.

🙄
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You look around. There are plenty of faithful Christians doing very good things in the world.


Sure -- there are good and bad people of all religions and of no religion.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You look around. There are plenty of faithful Christians doing very good things in the world.


and plenty of faithful Christians doing very bad things in the world.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You look around. There are plenty of faithful Christians doing very good things in the world.


and plenty of faithful Christians doing very bad things in the world.


No kidding. Plenty of faithful of all religions. And plenty of atheists.

Wouldn’t you agree?
Anonymous
I’d dispute your calling them faithful if they are persisting in sinful behavior. However, I suspect that you’ve lumped Christians into one big pile based on the bad actions of a minority and flat out refused to acknowledge any goodness among Christians. You persecute Christians, just call it what it is.
Anonymous
I do think there is such a thing as a religious narcissist and they live in a fantasy world where they attribute all the good talked about in their religion to themselves and forget they aren't the same as their god. That usually also involves bothering people not like them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’d dispute your calling them faithful if they are persisting in sinful behavior. However, I suspect that you’ve lumped Christians into one big pile based on the bad actions of a minority and flat out refused to acknowledge any goodness among Christians. You persecute Christians, just call it what it is.


OP here. They may perceive themselves as faithful, but they are really most faithful to their sinful behavior. and No, I have not lumped Christians into one big pile based on the bad actions of a minority and flat out refused to acknowledge any goodness among Christians. Just look at the title of this thread: Not every religious is crazy, but it helps.

I persecute bad people and religion can make people bad, all the while thinking that they are good and doing god's will.

You know it's true.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’d dispute your calling them faithful if they are persisting in sinful behavior. However, I suspect that you’ve lumped Christians into one big pile based on the bad actions of a minority and flat out refused to acknowledge any goodness among Christians. You persecute Christians, just call it what it is.


OP here. They may perceive themselves as faithful, but they are really most faithful to their sinful behavior. and No, I have not lumped Christians into one big pile based on the bad actions of a minority and flat out refused to acknowledge any goodness among Christians. Just look at the title of this thread: Not every religious is crazy, but it helps.

I persecute bad people and religion can make people bad, all the while thinking that they are good and doing god's will.

You know it's true.


What is the “certain kind of religion” you speak of?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’d dispute your calling them faithful if they are persisting in sinful behavior. However, I suspect that you’ve lumped Christians into one big pile based on the bad actions of a minority and flat out refused to acknowledge any goodness among Christians. You persecute Christians, just call it what it is.


OP here. They may perceive themselves as faithful, but they are really most faithful to their sinful behavior. and No, I have not lumped Christians into one big pile based on the bad actions of a minority and flat out refused to acknowledge any goodness among Christians. Just look at the title of this thread: Not every religious is crazy, but it helps.

I persecute bad people and religion can make people bad, all the while thinking that they are good and doing god's will.

You know it's true.


What is the “certain kind of religion” you speak of?


No-one mentioned a “certain kind of religion” that I can see.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think you, as well as many people on this forum, are very quick to make religion the culprit in every bad situation. Obviously, Vance Boelter wasn’t living what his faith taught.


Yes he was living what his religion taught. It wasn't what Jesus taught but so many churches have bastardized religion to hate certain people... black people, gay people, transgender people, women who seek healthcare. So yes this is what religion teaches ... you just don't want to admit it or hold your specific religion responsible for their bastardization of Jesus's teachings.
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