Obama, Trump and Deportations

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Anonymous wrote:With all these cries of Trump being a fascist for enforcing immigration laws, Karen Attiah injects some much needed facts and perspective. Where were your No Kings protests in 2013?!!! Deporting non violent illegal immigrants is only fascism when Trump does it I guess…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/06/16/barack-obama-donald-trump-protests-immigration/

Barack Obama is not your emotional support president

As protests against ICE spread around the country, and Americans wake once again to the reality of our brutal deportation practices, people clearly long for Obama to be the permanent cheerleader-in-chief. Just one problem: Obama himself advanced the draconian systems his successor is now employing so gleefully. How does this make sense?

People seem to have forgotten that during his administration, Obama fully earned the title “deporter in chief” by removing more people nearly 3 million in all from the country. Combining his first term with the beginnings of his second, Donald Trump has a long, long way to go to top that mark.

And no, these were not all immigrants convicted of crimes. Between 2014 and 2016, nearly 40,000 cases involving families with children were closed through the Obama administration’s “rocket docket” fast track — 70 percent of them processed without legal representation. Children were forced to represent themselves in court. The Obama administration was sued for detaining families as a supposed deterrent to immigration.

In fact, Tom Homan, the current White House border czar, was appointed by Obama. Yes, the Homan who said in March: “I don’t care what the judges think.” In 2015, as head of ICE enforcement and removal operations, Homan deported so many people that Obama gave him a presidential medal.

And for those facing militarized local police while protesting ICE: Have we forgotten Ferguson, Missouri? Standing Rock Sioux Reservation? Under the Obama administration, local police received hundreds of millions of dollars in surplus military equipment under the federal 1033 Program. Despite an executive order to limit these transfers after the unrest in Ferguson, investigations showed that local police were still receiving transfers, including armored vehicles.

MAGA told me that Obama didn’t enforce immigration law and the border was open. Are you saying they’re lying?

That was Biden you fruitcake. Obama did his job in a thoughtful and humane manner just like Bush and Clinton did. Trump and Biden made an already difficult and complex issue even more difficult and complex.

Gee, if the GOP had brought the immigration bill to a vote under the House when Obama was president, we wouldn't be here. Same with the GOP in the Senate under Biden. Yes, it is complex, but only one party has been consistent in trying to deal with the "complex' mechanics over the past 40 years through legislation. Why, do you suppose, the GOP refuses to authorize the executive branch the ability and funding necessary to deal with it?

[Anonymous]

Reality check. These are rough deportation numbers for Obama, Biden, and Trump at the beginning of their first and/or second terms (January - June):

For all his rhetoric and extreme made-for-TV actions (sending out the guard, marines, etc.), Trump 2 is not hitting earlier numbers, including his own from his first term.

*Obama (Jan–June 2009, First Term): ~400,000–500,000 (removals + returns, estimated)
*Obama (Jan–June 2013, Second Term): ~150,000–200,000 (removals + returns, estimated)
*Biden (Jan–June 2021): ~200,000–300,000 (removals + returns, estimated)
*Trump (Jan–June 2017, First Term): ~150,000–200,000 (removals + returns, estimated)
*Trump (Jan–June 2025, Second Term): ~60,000 (removals, based on early data)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With all these cries of Trump being a fascist for enforcing immigration laws, Karen Attiah injects some much needed facts and perspective. Where were your No Kings protests in 2013?!!! Deporting non violent illegal immigrants is only fascism when Trump does it I guess…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/06/16/barack-obama-donald-trump-protests-immigration/

Barack Obama is not your emotional support president

As protests against ICE spread around the country, and Americans wake once again to the reality of our brutal deportation practices, people clearly long for Obama to be the permanent cheerleader-in-chief. Just one problem: Obama himself advanced the draconian systems his successor is now employing so gleefully. How does this make sense?

People seem to have forgotten that during his administration, Obama fully earned the title “deporter in chief” by removing more people nearly 3 million in all from the country. Combining his first term with the beginnings of his second, Donald Trump has a long, long way to go to top that mark.

And no, these were not all immigrants convicted of crimes. Between 2014 and 2016, nearly 40,000 cases involving families with children were closed through the Obama administration’s “rocket docket” fast track — 70 percent of them processed without legal representation. Children were forced to represent themselves in court. The Obama administration was sued for detaining families as a supposed deterrent to immigration.

In fact, Tom Homan, the current White House border czar, was appointed by Obama. Yes, the Homan who said in March: “I don’t care what the judges think.” In 2015, as head of ICE enforcement and removal operations, Homan deported so many people that Obama gave him a presidential medal.

And for those facing militarized local police while protesting ICE: Have we forgotten Ferguson, Missouri? Standing Rock Sioux Reservation? Under the Obama administration, local police received hundreds of millions of dollars in surplus military equipment under the federal 1033 Program. Despite an executive order to limit these transfers after the unrest in Ferguson, investigations showed that local police were still receiving transfers, including armored vehicles.

MAGA told me that Obama didn’t enforce immigration law and the border was open. Are you saying they’re lying?

That was Biden you fruitcake. Obama did his job in a thoughtful and humane manner just like Bush and Clinton did. Trump and Biden made an already difficult and complex issue even more difficult and complex.

That’s not what you guys said then.

https://www.heritage.org/border-security/commentary/trumps-immigration-actions-reverse-obamas-open-borders-policy

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With all these cries of Trump being a fascist for enforcing immigration laws, Karen Attiah injects some much needed facts and perspective. Where were your No Kings protests in 2013?!!! Deporting non violent illegal immigrants is only fascism when Trump does it I guess…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/06/16/barack-obama-donald-trump-protests-immigration/

Barack Obama is not your emotional support president

As protests against ICE spread around the country, and Americans wake once again to the reality of our brutal deportation practices, people clearly long for Obama to be the permanent cheerleader-in-chief. Just one problem: Obama himself advanced the draconian systems his successor is now employing so gleefully. How does this make sense?

People seem to have forgotten that during his administration, Obama fully earned the title “deporter in chief” by removing more people nearly 3 million in all from the country. Combining his first term with the beginnings of his second, Donald Trump has a long, long way to go to top that mark.

And no, these were not all immigrants convicted of crimes. Between 2014 and 2016, nearly 40,000 cases involving families with children were closed through the Obama administration’s “rocket docket” fast track — 70 percent of them processed without legal representation. Children were forced to represent themselves in court. The Obama administration was sued for detaining families as a supposed deterrent to immigration.

In fact, Tom Homan, the current White House border czar, was appointed by Obama. Yes, the Homan who said in March: “I don’t care what the judges think.” In 2015, as head of ICE enforcement and removal operations, Homan deported so many people that Obama gave him a presidential medal.

And for those facing militarized local police while protesting ICE: Have we forgotten Ferguson, Missouri? Standing Rock Sioux Reservation? Under the Obama administration, local police received hundreds of millions of dollars in surplus military equipment under the federal 1033 Program. Despite an executive order to limit these transfers after the unrest in Ferguson, investigations showed that local police were still receiving transfers, including armored vehicles.

MAGA told me that Obama didn’t enforce immigration law and the border was open. Are you saying they’re lying?

That was Biden you fruitcake. Obama did his job in a thoughtful and humane manner just like Bush and Clinton did. Trump and Biden made an already difficult and complex issue even more difficult and complex.

Gee, if the GOP had brought the immigration bill to a vote under the House when Obama was president, we wouldn't be here. Same with the GOP in the Senate under Biden. Yes, it is complex, but only one party has been consistent in trying to deal with the "complex' mechanics over the past 40 years through legislation. Why, do you suppose, the GOP refuses to authorize the executive branch the ability and funding necessary to deal with it?

To my knowledge, there has been no bill proposed within the last 10 to 20 years that addressed the need for a more expedited process of issuing employer sponsored visas to migrants seeking agricultural and service related work in the US so these people can work here legally without ICE breathing down their necks. The only recent immigration related reforms and law changes I'm aware have been short term band-aid fix measures and/or executive orders issued as short term fixes. I can say that Obama, Bush, and Clinton pushed Congress to act on long term immigration reform measures but of course Congress failed to act. Trump and Biden have failed in every way possible to no one's surprise.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With all these cries of Trump being a fascist for enforcing immigration laws, Karen Attiah injects some much needed facts and perspective. Where were your No Kings protests in 2013?!!! Deporting non violent illegal immigrants is only fascism when Trump does it I guess…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/06/16/barack-obama-donald-trump-protests-immigration/

Barack Obama is not your emotional support president

As protests against ICE spread around the country, and Americans wake once again to the reality of our brutal deportation practices, people clearly long for Obama to be the permanent cheerleader-in-chief. Just one problem: Obama himself advanced the draconian systems his successor is now employing so gleefully. How does this make sense?

People seem to have forgotten that during his administration, Obama fully earned the title “deporter in chief” by removing more people nearly 3 million in all from the country. Combining his first term with the beginnings of his second, Donald Trump has a long, long way to go to top that mark.

And no, these were not all immigrants convicted of crimes. Between 2014 and 2016, nearly 40,000 cases involving families with children were closed through the Obama administration’s “rocket docket” fast track — 70 percent of them processed without legal representation. Children were forced to represent themselves in court. The Obama administration was sued for detaining families as a supposed deterrent to immigration.

In fact, Tom Homan, the current White House border czar, was appointed by Obama. Yes, the Homan who said in March: “I don’t care what the judges think.” In 2015, as head of ICE enforcement and removal operations, Homan deported so many people that Obama gave him a presidential medal.

And for those facing militarized local police while protesting ICE: Have we forgotten Ferguson, Missouri? Standing Rock Sioux Reservation? Under the Obama administration, local police received hundreds of millions of dollars in surplus military equipment under the federal 1033 Program. Despite an executive order to limit these transfers after the unrest in Ferguson, investigations showed that local police were still receiving transfers, including armored vehicles.

MAGA told me that Obama didn’t enforce immigration law and the border was open. Are you saying they’re lying?

That was Biden you fruitcake. Obama did his job in a thoughtful and humane manner just like Bush and Clinton did. Trump and Biden made an already difficult and complex issue even more difficult and complex.

Gee, if the GOP had brought the immigration bill to a vote under the House when Obama was president, we wouldn't be here. Same with the GOP in the Senate under Biden. Yes, it is complex, but only one party has been consistent in trying to deal with the "complex' mechanics over the past 40 years through legislation. Why, do you suppose, the GOP refuses to authorize the executive branch the ability and funding necessary to deal with it?

To my knowledge, there has been no bill proposed within the last 10 to 20 years that addressed the need for a more expedited process of issuing employer sponsored visas to migrants seeking agricultural and service related work in the US so these people can work here legally without ICE breathing down their necks. The only recent immigration related reforms and law changes I'm aware have been short term band-aid fix measures and/or executive orders issued as short term fixes. I can say that Obama, Bush, and Clinton pushed Congress to act on long term immigration reform measures but of course Congress failed to act. Trump and Biden have failed in every way possible to no one's surprise.

The GOP has said they won’t consider any immigration reforms until the border is “fixed.” That’s been the mantra since at least 2008.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With all these cries of Trump being a fascist for enforcing immigration laws, Karen Attiah injects some much needed facts and perspective. Where were your No Kings protests in 2013?!!! Deporting non violent illegal immigrants is only fascism when Trump does it I guess…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/06/16/barack-obama-donald-trump-protests-immigration/

Barack Obama is not your emotional support president

As protests against ICE spread around the country, and Americans wake once again to the reality of our brutal deportation practices, people clearly long for Obama to be the permanent cheerleader-in-chief. Just one problem: Obama himself advanced the draconian systems his successor is now employing so gleefully. How does this make sense?

People seem to have forgotten that during his administration, Obama fully earned the title “deporter in chief” by removing more people nearly 3 million in all from the country. Combining his first term with the beginnings of his second, Donald Trump has a long, long way to go to top that mark.

And no, these were not all immigrants convicted of crimes. Between 2014 and 2016, nearly 40,000 cases involving families with children were closed through the Obama administration’s “rocket docket” fast track — 70 percent of them processed without legal representation. Children were forced to represent themselves in court. The Obama administration was sued for detaining families as a supposed deterrent to immigration.

In fact, Tom Homan, the current White House border czar, was appointed by Obama. Yes, the Homan who said in March: “I don’t care what the judges think.” In 2015, as head of ICE enforcement and removal operations, Homan deported so many people that Obama gave him a presidential medal.

And for those facing militarized local police while protesting ICE: Have we forgotten Ferguson, Missouri? Standing Rock Sioux Reservation? Under the Obama administration, local police received hundreds of millions of dollars in surplus military equipment under the federal 1033 Program. Despite an executive order to limit these transfers after the unrest in Ferguson, investigations showed that local police were still receiving transfers, including armored vehicles.

MAGA told me that Obama didn’t enforce immigration law and the border was open. Are you saying they’re lying?

That was Biden you fruitcake. Obama did his job in a thoughtful and humane manner just like Bush and Clinton did. Trump and Biden made an already difficult and complex issue even more difficult and complex.

Gee, if the GOP had brought the immigration bill to a vote under the House when Obama was president, we wouldn't be here. Same with the GOP in the Senate under Biden. Yes, it is complex, but only one party has been consistent in trying to deal with the "complex' mechanics over the past 40 years through legislation. Why, do you suppose, the GOP refuses to authorize the executive branch the ability and funding necessary to deal with it?

To my knowledge, there has been no bill proposed within the last 10 to 20 years that addressed the need for a more expedited process of issuing employer sponsored visas to migrants seeking agricultural and service related work in the US so these people can work here legally without ICE breathing down their necks. The only recent immigration related reforms and law changes I'm aware have been short term band-aid fix measures and/or executive orders issued as short term fixes. I can say that Obama, Bush, and Clinton pushed Congress to act on long term immigration reform measures but of course Congress failed to act. Trump and Biden have failed in every way possible to no one's surprise.

The GOP has said they won’t consider any immigration reforms until the border is “fixed.” That’s been the mantra since at least 2008.

Fine. Finish the damn wall Trump promised but failed to deliver during his first term. Of course our border should be secure in a post 9/11 world and if it takes a wall to make that happen, so be it. The next very important step is to make it easier for low skill migrant workers to come here legally to work so that current madness brought on by Trump and Biden doesn't become cyclical.

All common sense stuff that all of us can agree on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With all these cries of Trump being a fascist for enforcing immigration laws, Karen Attiah injects some much needed facts and perspective. Where were your No Kings protests in 2013?!!! Deporting non violent illegal immigrants is only fascism when Trump does it I guess…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/06/16/barack-obama-donald-trump-protests-immigration/

Barack Obama is not your emotional support president

As protests against ICE spread around the country, and Americans wake once again to the reality of our brutal deportation practices, people clearly long for Obama to be the permanent cheerleader-in-chief. Just one problem: Obama himself advanced the draconian systems his successor is now employing so gleefully. How does this make sense?

People seem to have forgotten that during his administration, Obama fully earned the title “deporter in chief” by removing more people nearly 3 million in all from the country. Combining his first term with the beginnings of his second, Donald Trump has a long, long way to go to top that mark.

And no, these were not all immigrants convicted of crimes. Between 2014 and 2016, nearly 40,000 cases involving families with children were closed through the Obama administration’s “rocket docket” fast track — 70 percent of them processed without legal representation. Children were forced to represent themselves in court. The Obama administration was sued for detaining families as a supposed deterrent to immigration.

In fact, Tom Homan, the current White House border czar, was appointed by Obama. Yes, the Homan who said in March: “I don’t care what the judges think.” In 2015, as head of ICE enforcement and removal operations, Homan deported so many people that Obama gave him a presidential medal.

And for those facing militarized local police while protesting ICE: Have we forgotten Ferguson, Missouri? Standing Rock Sioux Reservation? Under the Obama administration, local police received hundreds of millions of dollars in surplus military equipment under the federal 1033 Program. Despite an executive order to limit these transfers after the unrest in Ferguson, investigations showed that local police were still receiving transfers, including armored vehicles.

MAGA told me that Obama didn’t enforce immigration law and the border was open. Are you saying they’re lying?

That was Biden you fruitcake. Obama did his job in a thoughtful and humane manner just like Bush and Clinton did. Trump and Biden made an already difficult and complex issue even more difficult and complex.

Gee, if the GOP had brought the immigration bill to a vote under the House when Obama was president, we wouldn't be here. Same with the GOP in the Senate under Biden. Yes, it is complex, but only one party has been consistent in trying to deal with the "complex' mechanics over the past 40 years through legislation. Why, do you suppose, the GOP refuses to authorize the executive branch the ability and funding necessary to deal with it?

To my knowledge, there has been no bill proposed within the last 10 to 20 years that addressed the need for a more expedited process of issuing employer sponsored visas to migrants seeking agricultural and service related work in the US so these people can work here legally without ICE breathing down their necks. The only recent immigration related reforms and law changes I'm aware have been short term band-aid fix measures and/or executive orders issued as short term fixes. I can say that Obama, Bush, and Clinton pushed Congress to act on long term immigration reform measures but of course Congress failed to act. Trump and Biden have failed in every way possible to no one's surprise.

Look at the 2012 and 2023 bills.

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Anonymous wrote:With all these cries of Trump being a fascist for enforcing immigration laws, Karen Attiah injects some much needed facts and perspective. Where were your No Kings protests in 2013?!!! Deporting non violent illegal immigrants is only fascism when Trump does it I guess…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/06/16/barack-obama-donald-trump-protests-immigration/

Barack Obama is not your emotional support president

As protests against ICE spread around the country, and Americans wake once again to the reality of our brutal deportation practices, people clearly long for Obama to be the permanent cheerleader-in-chief. Just one problem: Obama himself advanced the draconian systems his successor is now employing so gleefully. How does this make sense?

People seem to have forgotten that during his administration, Obama fully earned the title “deporter in chief” by removing more people nearly 3 million in all from the country. Combining his first term with the beginnings of his second, Donald Trump has a long, long way to go to top that mark.

And no, these were not all immigrants convicted of crimes. Between 2014 and 2016, nearly 40,000 cases involving families with children were closed through the Obama administration’s “rocket docket” fast track — 70 percent of them processed without legal representation. Children were forced to represent themselves in court. The Obama administration was sued for detaining families as a supposed deterrent to immigration.

In fact, Tom Homan, the current White House border czar, was appointed by Obama. Yes, the Homan who said in March: “I don’t care what the judges think.” In 2015, as head of ICE enforcement and removal operations, Homan deported so many people that Obama gave him a presidential medal.

And for those facing militarized local police while protesting ICE: Have we forgotten Ferguson, Missouri? Standing Rock Sioux Reservation? Under the Obama administration, local police received hundreds of millions of dollars in surplus military equipment under the federal 1033 Program. Despite an executive order to limit these transfers after the unrest in Ferguson, investigations showed that local police were still receiving transfers, including armored vehicles.

MAGA told me that Obama didn’t enforce immigration law and the border was open. Are you saying they’re lying?

That was Biden you fruitcake. Obama did his job in a thoughtful and humane manner just like Bush and Clinton did. Trump and Biden made an already difficult and complex issue even more difficult and complex.

Gee, if the GOP had brought the immigration bill to a vote under the House when Obama was president, we wouldn't be here. Same with the GOP in the Senate under Biden. Yes, it is complex, but only one party has been consistent in trying to deal with the "complex' mechanics over the past 40 years through legislation. Why, do you suppose, the GOP refuses to authorize the executive branch the ability and funding necessary to deal with it?

To my knowledge, there has been no bill proposed within the last 10 to 20 years that addressed the need for a more expedited process of issuing employer sponsored visas to migrants seeking agricultural and service related work in the US so these people can work here legally without ICE breathing down their necks. The only recent immigration related reforms and law changes I'm aware have been short term band-aid fix measures and/or executive orders issued as short term fixes. I can say that Obama, Bush, and Clinton pushed Congress to act on long term immigration reform measures but of course Congress failed to act. Trump and Biden have failed in every way possible to no one's surprise.

The GOP has said they won’t consider any immigration reforms until the border is “fixed.” That’s been the mantra since at least 2008.

Fine. Finish the damn wall Trump promised but failed to deliver during his first term. Of course our border should be secure in a post 9/11 world and if it takes a wall to make that happen, so be it. The next very important step is to make it easier for low skill migrant workers to come here legally to work so that current madness brought on by Trump and Biden doesn't become cyclical.

All common sense stuff that all of us can agree on.

The wall does nothing to address any of these issues. It was a vanity project that wasted billions of dollars and in many cases has already rusted out/fallen over due poor design and shoddy workmanship.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With all these cries of Trump being a fascist for enforcing immigration laws, Karen Attiah injects some much needed facts and perspective. Where were your No Kings protests in 2013?!!! Deporting non violent illegal immigrants is only fascism when Trump does it I guess…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/06/16/barack-obama-donald-trump-protests-immigration/

Barack Obama is not your emotional support president

As protests against ICE spread around the country, and Americans wake once again to the reality of our brutal deportation practices, people clearly long for Obama to be the permanent cheerleader-in-chief. Just one problem: Obama himself advanced the draconian systems his successor is now employing so gleefully. How does this make sense?

People seem to have forgotten that during his administration, Obama fully earned the title “deporter in chief” by removing more people nearly 3 million in all from the country. Combining his first term with the beginnings of his second, Donald Trump has a long, long way to go to top that mark.

And no, these were not all immigrants convicted of crimes. Between 2014 and 2016, nearly 40,000 cases involving families with children were closed through the Obama administration’s “rocket docket” fast track — 70 percent of them processed without legal representation. Children were forced to represent themselves in court. The Obama administration was sued for detaining families as a supposed deterrent to immigration.

In fact, Tom Homan, the current White House border czar, was appointed by Obama. Yes, the Homan who said in March: “I don’t care what the judges think.” In 2015, as head of ICE enforcement and removal operations, Homan deported so many people that Obama gave him a presidential medal.

And for those facing militarized local police while protesting ICE: Have we forgotten Ferguson, Missouri? Standing Rock Sioux Reservation? Under the Obama administration, local police received hundreds of millions of dollars in surplus military equipment under the federal 1033 Program. Despite an executive order to limit these transfers after the unrest in Ferguson, investigations showed that local police were still receiving transfers, including armored vehicles.

MAGA told me that Obama didn’t enforce immigration law and the border was open. Are you saying they’re lying?

That was Biden you fruitcake. Obama did his job in a thoughtful and humane manner just like Bush and Clinton did. Trump and Biden made an already difficult and complex issue even more difficult and complex.

Gee, if the GOP had brought the immigration bill to a vote under the House when Obama was president, we wouldn't be here. Same with the GOP in the Senate under Biden. Yes, it is complex, but only one party has been consistent in trying to deal with the "complex' mechanics over the past 40 years through legislation. Why, do you suppose, the GOP refuses to authorize the executive branch the ability and funding necessary to deal with it?

To my knowledge, there has been no bill proposed within the last 10 to 20 years that addressed the need for a more expedited process of issuing employer sponsored visas to migrants seeking agricultural and service related work in the US so these people can work here legally without ICE breathing down their necks. The only recent immigration related reforms and law changes I'm aware have been short term band-aid fix measures and/or executive orders issued as short term fixes. I can say that Obama, Bush, and Clinton pushed Congress to act on long term immigration reform measures but of course Congress failed to act. Trump and Biden have failed in every way possible to no one's surprise.

The GOP has said they won’t consider any immigration reforms until the border is “fixed.” That’s been the mantra since at least 2008.

Fine. Finish the damn wall Trump promised but failed to deliver during his first term. Of course our border should be secure in a post 9/11 world and if it takes a wall to make that happen, so be it. The next very important step is to make it easier for low skill migrant workers to come here legally to work so that current madness brought on by Trump and Biden doesn't become cyclical.

All common sense stuff that all of us can agree on.

The wall does nothing to address any of these issues. It was a vanity project that wasted billions of dollars and in many cases has already rusted out/fallen over due poor design and shoddy workmanship.

Okay, so not a wall. I'm sure our very wealthy and resourceful country can figure out a way to secure it's border like most 1st world countries do. Whatever it frickin' takes to secure the border and then create an easy pathway for the workers we so desperately need to come here legally. Literally no one disagrees with this very simple, simple concept of securing our border and at the same time making it easier for migrants seeking work in the US to work in the US legally. Get it DONE!

[Anonymous]

Previous administrations were able to deport illegal immigrants without making them the bogeyman. They didn't villainize groups of people, making up stories that they are eating your pets and saying things like "reverse the tide of Mass Destruction Migration that has turned our once Idyllic Towns into scenes of Third World Dystopia [sic x 50]."

[Anonymous]

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Okay, so not a wall. I'm sure our very wealthy and resourceful country can figure out a way to secure it's border like most 1st world countries do. Whatever it frickin' takes to secure the border and then create an easy pathway for the workers we so desperately need to come here legally. Literally no one disagrees with this very simple, simple concept of securing our border and at the same time making it easier for migrants seeking work in the US to work in the US legally. Get it DONE!

Our border is not even the main source of the problem though. Two thirds of the illegal immigrants in this country are people who overstayed visas. People who were vetted and found worthy of entering this country, until they broke the rules. And yet all we hear about is borders, borders, borders.

[Anonymous]

Stop the gaslighting. The differences are many and obvious. Due process legal actions vs. violent police state fascism with no accountability and no-bid, no-oversight contracts to corrupt private contractors and prison vendors.

Trump does everything with no concern for the Constitution or federal laws and with the maximum corruption and bigotry and cruelty imaginable.

The next time he does anything in compliance with the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights will be his first time doing so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stop the gaslighting. The differences are many and obvious. Due process legal actions vs. violent police state fascism with no accountability and no-bid, no-oversight contracts to corrupt private contractors and prison vendors.

Trump does everything with no concern for the Constitution or federal laws and with the maximum corruption and bigotry and cruelty imaginable.

The next time he does anything in compliance with the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights will be his first time doing so.

+1000

It's fair to throw mud at Biden for the actions he took early in his term to remove band-aid laws that were in place to secure the border but trying to throw mud at Obama by suggesting his approach to deportations was the same as Trump's approach is utter ridiculousness.

Leave Obama out of it. This is Trump and Biden's mess and at this point, it's mostly Trump's mess!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stop the gaslighting. The differences are many and obvious. Due process legal actions vs. violent police state fascism with no accountability and no-bid, no-oversight contracts to corrupt private contractors and prison vendors.

Trump does everything with no concern for the Constitution or federal laws and with the maximum corruption and bigotry and cruelty imaginable.

The next time he does anything in compliance with the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights will be his first time doing so.

+1000

It's fair to throw mud at Biden for the actions he took early in his term to remove band-aid laws that were in place to secure the border but trying to throw mud at Obama by suggesting his approach to deportations was the same as Trump's approach is utter ridiculousness.

Leave Obama out of it. This is Trump and Biden's mess and at this point, it's mostly Trump's mess!

Exactly. He controls the executive branch and his party has a majority in the House and the Senate. If not now for meaningful GOP-led immigration reform, then when?

[Anonymous]

Obama was the last badass democratic president. He deported the crap out of illegals! He was slinging predator drones at terrorists-- killed 10x as many as Bush, made it look like he was putting up amateur numbers. Love that guy.