Trump's recent reversals...he is weaker than we think

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the posters in here want Trump to be :checks notes: more right wing.

You see how stupid this argument is, right? You should be celebrating his moving to the center on immigration.

Thank you! I’m a centrist and when Newsom moderated his position on trans athletes I celebrated it, not mocked it. These people always trying to score points and dunk on the other team - when “their team” doesn’t even care about them in the first place are why too many Americans don’t vote. Politics in this country is so lame.

It's just his hypocrisy and waffling we are pointing out. Most Democrats think he should be focused on deporting criminal illegals, those who are dangerous or a threat, like gang members, those who are here but have never worked and are a drain on the system--not hard-working immigrants who are working at Home Depot, construction sites, farms, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the posters in here want Trump to be :checks notes: more right wing.

You see how stupid this argument is, right? You should be celebrating his moving to the center on immigration.

Except he isn't. ICE is still ICEing and there is still a US Marine corps unit on the streets of Los Angeles and people who have been kidnapped have not been released.

And the WP is now reporting that despite Trump's public advocating for carve outs for farm and hospitality workers, there are no policies changes underway. Which begs the question: WHO'S RUNNING THE COUNTRY?

President Donald Trump announced Thursday that “changes are coming” to protect farmers from losing workers to his aggressive deportation campaign, but no such policy changes are underway, according to three people with knowledge of the administration’s immigration policies.

Trump’s comments in a social media post sought to soothe industry leaders in the agriculture and hospitality fields, said a White House official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the president’s thinking, as many business leaders remain unnerved by the president’s sweeping deportation campaigns.

The official said there will be “no change” in the current approach to deportations, adding that no carveout exists currently for farm, hotel or other migrant workers who are in the country illegally. The administration previously directed U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement workers to avoid raiding farms, the person said, noting that agents have swept food production facilities. Immigration enforcement activity appeared to take place at two farms in California this week, however, as the administration escalated deportation efforts.

Trump’s public comments and follow-up remarks Thursday reflected a president pulled in two directions, with some business owners pointing out that whole sectors of the economy depend on the labor of people Trump is deporting, while influential MAGA commentators press him to deliver on the aggressive campaign promises that helped lift him to office. As the day wore on, Trump appeared to swing between the competing factions, explaining farmers’ predicament to reporters and saying he thought the White House would “have an order on that soon,” but also posting on social media Thursday afternoon that undocumented immigrants “have stolen American Jobs.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/06/13/trump-immigrant-farm-workers-hospitality/

[Anonymous]

Sounds like there's a MAGA deep state

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like there's a MAGA deep state

Of course it is a MAGA deep state, look at the police, ICE and military. Whoever controls the guns has the power.

[Anonymous]

I'm beginning to get a glimmer of hope that MAGA zealots will begin to turn on Trump if, after whipping them up into a sustained anti-immigrant frenzy for years (MAGA posters on the Politics forum are exhibit 1), he does not deliver exactly what he promised.

What will happen when Trump tells his minions to tone it done with harassing or deporting certain types of migrant workers like farm workers? That may be the beginning of the end for him. He's going to be caught between MAGA and the business community, and it won't end well for him.

[Anonymous]

We’re taking a look,
We’re going to be taking a look at it.
And we’re doing it very strongly.
I've always been in favor of that.

You look at farmers,
They’ve got people.
And some of them are terrific,
So we’re taking a look.

We’re going to be taking a look at it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We’re taking a look,
We’re going to be taking a look at it.
And we’re doing it very strongly.
I've always been in favor of that.

You look at farmers,
They’ve got people.
And some of them are terrific,
So we’re taking a look.

We’re going to be taking a look at it.

Yup. He says "We're going to be taking a look at it" when he wants to leave all options--including reversing himself--open. Let's see how quickly he caves on the next issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the posters in here want Trump to be :checks notes: more right wing.

You see how stupid this argument is, right? You should be celebrating his moving to the center on immigration.

Except he isn't. ICE is still ICEing and there is still a US Marine corps unit on the streets of Los Angeles and people who have been kidnapped have not been released.

And the WP is now reporting that despite Trump's public advocating for carve outs for farm and hospitality workers, there are no policies changes underway. Which begs the question: WHO'S RUNNING THE COUNTRY?

President Donald Trump announced Thursday that “changes are coming” to protect farmers from losing workers to his aggressive deportation campaign, but no such policy changes are underway, according to three people with knowledge of the administration’s immigration policies.

Trump’s comments in a social media post sought to soothe industry leaders in the agriculture and hospitality fields, said a White House official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the president’s thinking, as many business leaders remain unnerved by the president’s sweeping deportation campaigns.

The official said there will be “no change” in the current approach to deportations, adding that no carveout exists currently for farm, hotel or other migrant workers who are in the country illegally. The administration previously directed U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement workers to avoid raiding farms, the person said, noting that agents have swept food production facilities. Immigration enforcement activity appeared to take place at two farms in California this week, however, as the administration escalated deportation efforts.

Trump’s public comments and follow-up remarks Thursday reflected a president pulled in two directions, with some business owners pointing out that whole sectors of the economy depend on the labor of people Trump is deporting, while influential MAGA commentators press him to deliver on the aggressive campaign promises that helped lift him to office. As the day wore on, Trump appeared to swing between the competing factions, explaining farmers’ predicament to reporters and saying he thought the White House would “have an order on that soon,” but also posting on social media Thursday afternoon that undocumented immigrants “have stolen American Jobs.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/06/13/trump-immigrant-farm-workers-hospitality/

Effectively Stephen Miller is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We’re taking a look,
We’re going to be taking a look at it.
And we’re doing it very strongly.
I've always been in favor of that.

You look at farmers,
They’ve got people.
And some of them are terrific,
So we’re taking a look.

We’re going to be taking a look at it.

Yup. He says "We're going to be taking a look at it" when he wants to leave all options--including reversing himself--open. Let's see how quickly he caves on the next issue.

Trump has spent 80 years seeking adulation and respect and still can’t figure it out. He’s actually a tragic figure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We’re taking a look,
We’re going to be taking a look at it.
And we’re doing it very strongly.
I've always been in favor of that.

You look at farmers,
They’ve got people.
And some of them are terrific,
So we’re taking a look.

We’re going to be taking a look at it.

Yup. He says "We're going to be taking a look at it" when he wants to leave all options--including reversing himself--open. Let's see how quickly he caves on the next issue.

"We're going to be taking a look at it" means "I know almost nothing about that subject, beyond the fact that I've heard it exists, but I want to seem like I'm on the top of it and, most of all, 'in control.'"

People who are fooled by Trump must never have known/dealt with a bullshitter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

And the WP is now reporting that despite Trump's public advocating for carve outs for farm and hospitality workers, there are no policies changes underway. Which begs the question: WHO'S RUNNING THE COUNTRY?

Auto-pen, clearly.

Stephen Miller: immigration
navarro: tariffs
Voght: Project 2025/domestic policy
Putin: Foreign Policy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the posters in here want Trump to be :checks notes: more right wing.

You see how stupid this argument is, right? You should be celebrating his moving to the center on immigration.

When he moves to the center, I'll celebrate it.

While he is keeping legal and innocent Venezuelans imprisoned in El Salvador...
While he refuses to address injustice and obvious mistakes...
While he disobeys court orders and spits on the Constitution...
While he is ripping 17-year-old Hondurans out of foster homes in shackles...
While he is keeping immigrants in unsanitary detention centers without enough food and with no medical care for weeks...
While he is allowing actual criminals do whatever they want because all his attention is on DEPORTATION...
While he deploys Marines and the national guard, against a governors wishes, against AMERICANS engaged overwhelmingly in peaceful protests...

While all these remain true, we will continue to protest the actions of this criminal. He has so far to go to come anywhere near the center.

[Anonymous]

When they all leave LA I’ll believe it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He’s the biggest clown ever. Not just the worst but the dumbest, weakest, and least manly. Ugly and fat too.
On a scale of one to ten of attractiveness he gets a zero.

Weak old man who is easily swayed by his favorite nephews to redo his will for the 100th time because they know how flatter him.

[Anonymous]

Other than getting revenge on those he felt crossed him in term1 what promise has he actually accomplished?