Algebra Honors 8th grade

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Anonymous wrote:I would do honors. Every parent I know who has had a kid take a non-honors class has regretted it, the classes move really slow and the kids are far less motivated to take the class seriously.

I agree. And another point that my son agreed with is that if the problem is mostly organization then that won’t change in non honors. That’s just a skill your child is learning. So then they’ll still get a B because of lack of organization, but now not in honors.

Op here, good point. I was just thinking if the class was going slower, maybe it gave more time to study for tests/concepts etc. but at the end of the day, I am convinced the content/material wasn't the challenge for DC. They also didn't take advantage of the retake policy for summatives despite my urging and never studied till the last moment. So frustrating to see!

Your child doesn’t sound like honors material, frankly. He will do the same thing or even worse if he continues with honors. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

Does every kid taking Geometry Honors have an A in Algebra Honors?

Most do, yes. The algebra teacher did not recommend honors classes to kids with less than an A- in Algebra 1 Honors. A B is considered very low for an Algebra 1 Honors in FCPS, when this last year even allowed retakes to 100.

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Anonymous wrote:No one gets a B in Algebra for “organization.” That is a bunch of crap. A final grade of B means your child doesn’t understand the concepts or have a solid foundation. Your child’s grade in Algebra is mainly based on test scores. What were your child’s test scores for each unit? Did you consider a tutor or go over what they missed? Algebra is the foundation for all advanced math. If you don’t have a solid foundation, your child will continue to struggle in honors classes, especially after getting a B in the first one (which is probably the easiest). Also, what did your child’s teacher recommend? I’m guessing regular but you don’t agree.

NP. Disagree. "Organization" sounds easy and like not an issue at all, to women who were good students as girls. But I have 3 boys and they vary but organizational skills are definitely the issue for their math grades, not actual math knowledge or skill. It gets better every year. As do their grades.

Can you please explain how organization leads to low test grades? A low test grade means your child doesn’t know or understand the math concepts.

Organization issues for my DC:
Not studying till the last minute
Not turning in assignments on time
Not asking for help on certain concepts
Not using the retesting policy because "can't be bothered"

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Anonymous wrote:I would do honors. Every parent I know who has had a kid take a non-honors class has regretted it, the classes move really slow and the kids are far less motivated to take the class seriously.

I agree. And another point that my son agreed with is that if the problem is mostly organization then that won’t change in non honors. That’s just a skill your child is learning. So then they’ll still get a B because of lack of organization, but now not in honors.

Op here, good point. I was just thinking if the class was going slower, maybe it gave more time to study for tests/concepts etc. but at the end of the day, I am convinced the content/material wasn't the challenge for DC. They also didn't take advantage of the retake policy for summatives despite my urging and never studied till the last moment. So frustrating to see!

Your child doesn’t sound like honors material, frankly. He will do the same thing or even worse if he continues with honors. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

Does every kid taking Geometry Honors have an A in Algebra Honors?

Most do, yes. The algebra teacher did not recommend honors classes to kids with less than an A- in Algebra 1 Honors. A B is considered very low for an Algebra 1 Honors in FCPS, when this last year even allowed retakes to 100.

This is truly the worst board on the internet. No. Plenty of kids had a B plus and took honors geometry. My son had a B plus in algebra honors, geometry was hard and he had a B minus, algebra 2 was great and up to a B plus again. He got a B in AP precalc. He’s a B student. That’s fine and it likely wouldn’t have been an A in non honors.

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Anonymous wrote:I would do honors. Every parent I know who has had a kid take a non-honors class has regretted it, the classes move really slow and the kids are far less motivated to take the class seriously.

I agree. And another point that my son agreed with is that if the problem is mostly organization then that won’t change in non honors. That’s just a skill your child is learning. So then they’ll still get a B because of lack of organization, but now not in honors.

Op here, good point. I was just thinking if the class was going slower, maybe it gave more time to study for tests/concepts etc. but at the end of the day, I am convinced the content/material wasn't the challenge for DC. They also didn't take advantage of the retake policy for summatives despite my urging and never studied till the last moment. So frustrating to see!

Your child doesn’t sound like honors material, frankly. He will do the same thing or even worse if he continues with honors. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

Does every kid taking Geometry Honors have an A in Algebra Honors?

My kid ended with an A- in Algebra honers and was in 7th grade (now going into 8th) and she will definitely be taking geometry honest next year. She has friends who got B+ who are also taking geometry honers. And for the OP, you should take Geometry Honers because it is far different than Algebra Honers. If you see ur kid struggling, go down to regular. Its better to take honers and go down than be bored in regular and not be able to go back up.

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Anonymous wrote:I would do honors. Every parent I know who has had a kid take a non-honors class has regretted it, the classes move really slow and the kids are far less motivated to take the class seriously.

I agree. And another point that my son agreed with is that if the problem is mostly organization then that won’t change in non honors. That’s just a skill your child is learning. So then they’ll still get a B because of lack of organization, but now not in honors.

Op here, good point. I was just thinking if the class was going slower, maybe it gave more time to study for tests/concepts etc. but at the end of the day, I am convinced the content/material wasn't the challenge for DC. They also didn't take advantage of the retake policy for summatives despite my urging and never studied till the last moment. So frustrating to see!

Your child doesn’t sound like honors material, frankly. He will do the same thing or even worse if he continues with honors. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

Does every kid taking Geometry Honors have an A in Algebra Honors?

Most do, yes. The algebra teacher did not recommend honors classes to kids with less than an A- in Algebra 1 Honors. A B is considered very low for an Algebra 1 Honors in FCPS, when this last year even allowed retakes to 100.

Not at all true. FCPS has open enrollment. Contrary to what you read here, they didn’t all have As. I have no idea what was recommended for DD. We didn’t see the recommendations and she signed up for whatever she wanted. She didn’t have an A and signed up for honors but did end up switching at the lady mat minute because she doesn’t enjoy math.

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I don't think everyone has an A in Algebra Honors to take Geometry Honors.

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This board is the worst! My kid ended up with a B in honors Algebra, with ADHD and lack of attention to small details that costs a lot of points on a test. It did not mean my kid didn't understand the material. There was a lot of hard work for that B. My kid will take honors geometry. I don't understand how B's suddenly became terrible grades.

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My kid had a B+ in Algebra 1 Honors in 8th grade because his teacher was truly awful. Her idea of teaching was to give them mathspace assignments, give them a quiz or test and then just have them retake it til they did acceptable.
He has a strong A in Geometry Honors and will definitely take Algebra 2 honors next year. Middle school math teachers, at least at our school, are a big step below the high school math teachers from what I've seen.

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Anonymous wrote:I would do honors. Every parent I know who has had a kid take a non-honors class has regretted it, the classes move really slow and the kids are far less motivated to take the class seriously.

I agree. And another point that my son agreed with is that if the problem is mostly organization then that won’t change in non honors. That’s just a skill your child is learning. So then they’ll still get a B because of lack of organization, but now not in honors.

Op here, good point. I was just thinking if the class was going slower, maybe it gave more time to study for tests/concepts etc. but at the end of the day, I am convinced the content/material wasn't the challenge for DC. They also didn't take advantage of the retake policy for summatives despite my urging and never studied till the last moment. So frustrating to see!

Your child doesn’t sound like honors material, frankly. He will do the same thing or even worse if he continues with honors. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

Does every kid taking Geometry Honors have an A in Algebra Honors?

Most do, yes. The algebra teacher did not recommend honors classes to kids with less than an A- in Algebra 1 Honors. A B is considered very low for an Algebra 1 Honors in FCPS, when this last year even allowed retakes to 100.

Not at all true. FCPS has open enrollment. Contrary to what you read here, they didn’t all have As. I have no idea what was recommended for DD. We didn’t see the recommendations and she signed up for whatever she wanted. She didn’t have an A and signed up for honors but did end up switching at the lady mat minute because she doesn’t enjoy math.

I know they have open enrollment. A lot of kids who shouldn’t take honors do, despite their teacher’s recommendation. I asked OP what their child’s teacher recommended and have not heard a response.

A solid B would not, imo, move on to another honors math class. Also, did you not see the child only passed, not pass advanced, on the Algebra SOL?

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Anonymous wrote:I would do honors. Every parent I know who has had a kid take a non-honors class has regretted it, the classes move really slow and the kids are far less motivated to take the class seriously.

I agree. And another point that my son agreed with is that if the problem is mostly organization then that won’t change in non honors. That’s just a skill your child is learning. So then they’ll still get a B because of lack of organization, but now not in honors.

Op here, good point. I was just thinking if the class was going slower, maybe it gave more time to study for tests/concepts etc. but at the end of the day, I am convinced the content/material wasn't the challenge for DC. They also didn't take advantage of the retake policy for summatives despite my urging and never studied till the last moment. So frustrating to see!

Your child doesn’t sound like honors material, frankly. He will do the same thing or even worse if he continues with honors. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

Does every kid taking Geometry Honors have an A in Algebra Honors?

Most do, yes. The algebra teacher did not recommend honors classes to kids with less than an A- in Algebra 1 Honors. A B is considered very low for an Algebra 1 Honors in FCPS, when this last year even allowed retakes to 100.

Not at all true. FCPS has open enrollment. Contrary to what you read here, they didn’t all have As. I have no idea what was recommended for DD. We didn’t see the recommendations and she signed up for whatever she wanted. She didn’t have an A and signed up for honors but did end up switching at the lady mat minute because she doesn’t enjoy math.

I know they have open enrollment. A lot of kids who shouldn’t take honors do, despite their teacher’s recommendation. I asked OP what their child’s teacher recommended and have not heard a response.

A solid B would not, imo, move on to another honors math class. Also, did you not see the child only passed, not pass advanced, on the Algebra SOL?

OP here. Teacher said she had no reason not to recommend Honors and thought DC needed to mature. But this was back when course selections was happening and at that point, DC had an A- in the class.

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Anonymous wrote:I would do honors. Every parent I know who has had a kid take a non-honors class has regretted it, the classes move really slow and the kids are far less motivated to take the class seriously.

I agree. And another point that my son agreed with is that if the problem is mostly organization then that won’t change in non honors. That’s just a skill your child is learning. So then they’ll still get a B because of lack of organization, but now not in honors.

Op here, good point. I was just thinking if the class was going slower, maybe it gave more time to study for tests/concepts etc. but at the end of the day, I am convinced the content/material wasn't the challenge for DC. They also didn't take advantage of the retake policy for summatives despite my urging and never studied till the last moment. So frustrating to see!

Your child doesn’t sound like honors material, frankly. He will do the same thing or even worse if he continues with honors. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

Does every kid taking Geometry Honors have an A in Algebra Honors?

Most do, yes. The algebra teacher did not recommend honors classes to kids with less than an A- in Algebra 1 Honors. A B is considered very low for an Algebra 1 Honors in FCPS, when this last year even allowed retakes to 100.

Not at all true. FCPS has open enrollment. Contrary to what you read here, they didn’t all have As. I have no idea what was recommended for DD. We didn’t see the recommendations and she signed up for whatever she wanted. She didn’t have an A and signed up for honors but did end up switching at the lady mat minute because she doesn’t enjoy math.

I know they have open enrollment. A lot of kids who shouldn’t take honors do, despite their teacher’s recommendation. I asked OP what their child’s teacher recommended and have not heard a response.

A solid B would not, imo, move on to another honors math class. Also, did you not see the child only passed, not pass advanced, on the Algebra SOL?

OP here. Teacher said she had no reason not to recommend Honors and thought DC needed to mature. But this was back when course selections was happening and at that point, DC had an A- in the class.

And look, I know you are itching to kick people out of Honors but DC is in AAP and has never struggled in Math (or other subjects) until this one grade. They have As in all other content.

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Anonymous wrote:I would do honors. Every parent I know who has had a kid take a non-honors class has regretted it, the classes move really slow and the kids are far less motivated to take the class seriously.

I agree. And another point that my son agreed with is that if the problem is mostly organization then that won’t change in non honors. That’s just a skill your child is learning. So then they’ll still get a B because of lack of organization, but now not in honors.

Op here, good point. I was just thinking if the class was going slower, maybe it gave more time to study for tests/concepts etc. but at the end of the day, I am convinced the content/material wasn't the challenge for DC. They also didn't take advantage of the retake policy for summatives despite my urging and never studied till the last moment. So frustrating to see!

Your child doesn’t sound like honors material, frankly. He will do the same thing or even worse if he continues with honors. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

Does every kid taking Geometry Honors have an A in Algebra Honors?

Most do, yes. The algebra teacher did not recommend honors classes to kids with less than an A- in Algebra 1 Honors. A B is considered very low for an Algebra 1 Honors in FCPS, when this last year even allowed retakes to 100.

Not at all true. FCPS has open enrollment. Contrary to what you read here, they didn’t all have As. I have no idea what was recommended for DD. We didn’t see the recommendations and she signed up for whatever she wanted. She didn’t have an A and signed up for honors but did end up switching at the lady mat minute because she doesn’t enjoy math.

I know they have open enrollment. A lot of kids who shouldn’t take honors do, despite their teacher’s recommendation. I asked OP what their child’s teacher recommended and have not heard a response.

A solid B would not, imo, move on to another honors math class. Also, did you not see the child only passed, not pass advanced, on the Algebra SOL?

OP here. Teacher said she had no reason not to recommend Honors and thought DC needed to mature. But this was back when course selections was happening and at that point, DC had an A- in the class.

And look, I know you are itching to kick people out of Honors but DC is in AAP and has never struggled in Math (or other subjects) until this one grade. They have As in all other content.

That doesn’t surprise me. Algebra 1 HN is a big jump for some kids. It does tend to weed out kids who maybe aren’t as math oriented. I see nothing wrong with getting off the honors track in math. Where people talk about not wanting to be in non honors classes, that’s usually English, history and science. It also really doesn’t matter what their grades are in other content areas. But, if your child has As in other content areas, it sounds like he is able to be organized. The B in Algebra suggests he has some foundational gaps. Going from an A- to a solid B by the end of the year is concerning. I wouldn’t put my B student in an honors math class because we want As. YMMV.

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Anonymous wrote:I would do honors. Every parent I know who has had a kid take a non-honors class has regretted it, the classes move really slow and the kids are far less motivated to take the class seriously.

I agree. And another point that my son agreed with is that if the problem is mostly organization then that won’t change in non honors. That’s just a skill your child is learning. So then they’ll still get a B because of lack of organization, but now not in honors.

Op here, good point. I was just thinking if the class was going slower, maybe it gave more time to study for tests/concepts etc. but at the end of the day, I am convinced the content/material wasn't the challenge for DC. They also didn't take advantage of the retake policy for summatives despite my urging and never studied till the last moment. So frustrating to see!

Your child doesn’t sound like honors material, frankly. He will do the same thing or even worse if he continues with honors. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

Does every kid taking Geometry Honors have an A in Algebra Honors?

Most do, yes. The algebra teacher did not recommend honors classes to kids with less than an A- in Algebra 1 Honors. A B is considered very low for an Algebra 1 Honors in FCPS, when this last year even allowed retakes to 100.

Not at all true. FCPS has open enrollment. Contrary to what you read here, they didn’t all have As. I have no idea what was recommended for DD. We didn’t see the recommendations and she signed up for whatever she wanted. She didn’t have an A and signed up for honors but did end up switching at the lady mat minute because she doesn’t enjoy math.

I know they have open enrollment. A lot of kids who shouldn’t take honors do, despite their teacher’s recommendation. I asked OP what their child’s teacher recommended and have not heard a response.

A solid B would not, imo, move on to another honors math class. Also, did you not see the child only passed, not pass advanced, on the Algebra SOL?

OP here. Teacher said she had no reason not to recommend Honors and thought DC needed to mature. But this was back when course selections was happening and at that point, DC had an A- in the class.

And look, I know you are itching to kick people out of Honors but DC is in AAP and has never struggled in Math (or other subjects) until this one grade. They have As in all other content.

I’m not itching to kick out kids from honors…I am offering another perspective. You are free to make your own decisions. But obviously there is a concern with a B in Algebra Honors.

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Anonymous wrote:I would do honors. Every parent I know who has had a kid take a non-honors class has regretted it, the classes move really slow and the kids are far less motivated to take the class seriously.

I agree. And another point that my son agreed with is that if the problem is mostly organization then that won’t change in non honors. That’s just a skill your child is learning. So then they’ll still get a B because of lack of organization, but now not in honors.

Op here, good point. I was just thinking if the class was going slower, maybe it gave more time to study for tests/concepts etc. but at the end of the day, I am convinced the content/material wasn't the challenge for DC. They also didn't take advantage of the retake policy for summatives despite my urging and never studied till the last moment. So frustrating to see!

Your child doesn’t sound like honors material, frankly. He will do the same thing or even worse if he continues with honors. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

Does every kid taking Geometry Honors have an A in Algebra Honors?

Most do, yes. The algebra teacher did not recommend honors classes to kids with less than an A- in Algebra 1 Honors. A B is considered very low for an Algebra 1 Honors in FCPS, when this last year even allowed retakes to 100.

Not at all true. FCPS has open enrollment. Contrary to what you read here, they didn’t all have As. I have no idea what was recommended for DD. We didn’t see the recommendations and she signed up for whatever she wanted. She didn’t have an A and signed up for honors but did end up switching at the lady mat minute because she doesn’t enjoy math.

I know they have open enrollment. A lot of kids who shouldn’t take honors do, despite their teacher’s recommendation. I asked OP what their child’s teacher recommended and have not heard a response.

A solid B would not, imo, move on to another honors math class. Also, did you not see the child only passed, not pass advanced, on the Algebra SOL?

OP here. Teacher said she had no reason not to recommend Honors and thought DC needed to mature. But this was back when course selections was happening and at that point, DC had an A- in the class.

And look, I know you are itching to kick people out of Honors but DC is in AAP and has never struggled in Math (or other subjects) until this one grade. They have As in all other content.

I’m not itching to kick out kids from honors…I am offering another perspective. You are free to make your own decisions. But obviously there is a concern with a B in Algebra Honors.

There is zero concern with a B. A B is a good grade. And it is extremely hard to get back on the honors/AP track if you get off. I have definitely seen that happen. He’s in AAP. He’s clearly capable. Soldier on with honors. Might he get a B? sure. It’s a B…not an F.

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Anonymous wrote:I would do honors. Every parent I know who has had a kid take a non-honors class has regretted it, the classes move really slow and the kids are far less motivated to take the class seriously.

I agree. And another point that my son agreed with is that if the problem is mostly organization then that won’t change in non honors. That’s just a skill your child is learning. So then they’ll still get a B because of lack of organization, but now not in honors.

Op here, good point. I was just thinking if the class was going slower, maybe it gave more time to study for tests/concepts etc. but at the end of the day, I am convinced the content/material wasn't the challenge for DC. They also didn't take advantage of the retake policy for summatives despite my urging and never studied till the last moment. So frustrating to see!

Your child doesn’t sound like honors material, frankly. He will do the same thing or even worse if he continues with honors. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

Does every kid taking Geometry Honors have an A in Algebra Honors?

Most do, yes. The algebra teacher did not recommend honors classes to kids with less than an A- in Algebra 1 Honors. A B is considered very low for an Algebra 1 Honors in FCPS, when this last year even allowed retakes to 100.

Not at all true. FCPS has open enrollment. Contrary to what you read here, they didn’t all have As. I have no idea what was recommended for DD. We didn’t see the recommendations and she signed up for whatever she wanted. She didn’t have an A and signed up for honors but did end up switching at the lady mat minute because she doesn’t enjoy math.

I know they have open enrollment. A lot of kids who shouldn’t take honors do, despite their teacher’s recommendation. I asked OP what their child’s teacher recommended and have not heard a response.

A solid B would not, imo, move on to another honors math class. Also, did you not see the child only passed, not pass advanced, on the Algebra SOL?

OP here. Teacher said she had no reason not to recommend Honors and thought DC needed to mature. But this was back when course selections was happening and at that point, DC had an A- in the class.

And look, I know you are itching to kick people out of Honors but DC is in AAP and has never struggled in Math (or other subjects) until this one grade. They have As in all other content.

I’m not itching to kick out kids from honors…I am offering another perspective. You are free to make your own decisions. But obviously there is a concern with a B in Algebra Honors.

There is zero concern with a B. A B is a good grade. And it is extremely hard to get back on the honors/AP track if you get off. I have definitely seen that happen. He’s in AAP. He’s clearly capable. Soldier on with honors. Might he get a B? sure. It’s a B…not an F.

There’s no AAP once you get to high school. I don’t know about you, but my kid doesn’t want Bs on his transcript. He wants UVA or W&M.