Materialists - I need a spoiler!!!

[Anonymous]

I just saw this movie and loved it. I that Dakota Johnson was God and I've really come around on her as an actress.

But I thought the writing was great and the premise thought provoking.

In particular, I loved how the moon cue explored the idea of what makes people feel valuable or worthy (or undervalued or worthless) in a relationship. Or how a relationship can make them feel valuable or worthless in the world. I loved the scenes where characters negotiated terms with one another, and addressed these concepts directly.

I also really liked how they addressed the reality of risk in dating, with the SA plotline, and what it means for women in particular to look for love.

I even liked the whole height thing, even though my DH found the surgery twist mildly ludicrous, because it just goes directly towards the question if status, and how that impacts ones marketability in dating. And I loved that moment when Harry "shrinks" and creates this visual that is so fascinating to read my own reaction to. Pascal genuinely gets less attractive in that moment, and I think partly they used perspective and lighting to make that happen,but I also think it's psychological. My DH and I had a whole convo about the height thing after (DH is 5'10", which coincidentally is also Pedro Pascal's real life height). On the one hand, I definitely never had an expectation that any man I dated he 6' (though some were)and I thought friends with this expectation were foolish because I'd do much rather have a kind and attractive man who is 5'10" than someone with an inferior personality who was taller. But also I was never attracted to men my height or shorter (I'm 5'5"). Anyway the height thing was a great issue for this movie because it's very shallow and also it tangibly matters somehow.

Anyway, I thought it was really great. I love that Celine Song made a movie that was more mainstream Hollywood, but stayed true to the thoughtful storytelling that was so good I'm Past Lives. This is one of my favorite romance movies in recent memory.

[Anonymous]

^ I thought Dakota Johnson was good, not God, lol

[Anonymous]

I thought Dakota was atrocious. I otherwise managed to like the movie and thought it was compelling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just saw this movie and loved it. I that Dakota Johnson was God and I've really come around on her as an actress.

But I thought the writing was great and the premise thought provoking.

In particular, I loved how the moon cue explored the idea of what makes people feel valuable or worthy (or undervalued or worthless) in a relationship. Or how a relationship can make them feel valuable or worthless in the world. I loved the scenes where characters negotiated terms with one another, and addressed these concepts directly.

I also really liked how they addressed the reality of risk in dating, with the SA plotline, and what it means for women in particular to look for love.

I even liked the whole height thing, even though my DH found the surgery twist mildly ludicrous, because it just goes directly towards the question if status, and how that impacts ones marketability in dating. And I loved that moment when Harry "shrinks" and creates this visual that is so fascinating to read my own reaction to. Pascal genuinely gets less attractive in that moment, and I think partly they used perspective and lighting to make that happen,but I also think it's psychological. My DH and I had a whole convo about the height thing after (DH is 5'10", which coincidentally is also Pedro Pascal's real life height). On the one hand, I definitely never had an expectation that any man I dated he 6' (though some were)and I thought friends with this expectation were foolish because I'd do much rather have a kind and attractive man who is 5'10" than someone with an inferior personality who was taller. But also I was never attracted to men my height or shorter (I'm 5'5"). Anyway the height thing was a great issue for this movie because it's very shallow and also it tangibly matters somehow.

Anyway, I thought it was really great. I love that Celine Song made a movie that was more mainstream Hollywood, but stayed true to the thoughtful storytelling that was so good I'm Past Lives. This is one of my favorite romance movies in recent memory.

It’s ironic that the movie is so retro with the smoking, but so modern with the short king leg lengthening.

Would men hold breast implants against a woman the same way?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just saw this movie and loved it. I that Dakota Johnson was God and I've really come around on her as an actress.

But I thought the writing was great and the premise thought provoking.

In particular, I loved how the moon cue explored the idea of what makes people feel valuable or worthy (or undervalued or worthless) in a relationship. Or how a relationship can make them feel valuable or worthless in the world. I loved the scenes where characters negotiated terms with one another, and addressed these concepts directly.

I also really liked how they addressed the reality of risk in dating, with the SA plotline, and what it means for women in particular to look for love.

I even liked the whole height thing, even though my DH found the surgery twist mildly ludicrous, because it just goes directly towards the question if status, and how that impacts ones marketability in dating. And I loved that moment when Harry "shrinks" and creates this visual that is so fascinating to read my own reaction to. Pascal genuinely gets less attractive in that moment, and I think partly they used perspective and lighting to make that happen,but I also think it's psychological. My DH and I had a whole convo about the height thing after (DH is 5'10", which coincidentally is also Pedro Pascal's real life height). On the one hand, I definitely never had an expectation that any man I dated he 6' (though some were)and I thought friends with this expectation were foolish because I'd do much rather have a kind and attractive man who is 5'10" than someone with an inferior personality who was taller. But also I was never attracted to men my height or shorter (I'm 5'5"). Anyway the height thing was a great issue for this movie because it's very shallow and also it tangibly matters somehow.

Anyway, I thought it was really great. I love that Celine Song made a movie that was more mainstream Hollywood, but stayed true to the thoughtful storytelling that was so good I'm Past Lives. This is one of my favorite romance movies in recent memory.

Can leg lengthening really add 6” like they say in the movie? If he was 5’6” he was probably almost undatable in these modern times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ I thought Dakota Johnson was good, not God, lol

Was more interested in movie when take was she was God and picking the more helpless. If “just” woman and picks the going nowhere, less so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ I thought Dakota Johnson was good, not God, lol

Was more interested in movie when take was she was God and picking the more helpless. If “just” woman and picks the going nowhere, less so.

Huh? Can you clarify what you mean by your last sentence?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just saw this movie and loved it. I that Dakota Johnson was God and I've really come around on her as an actress.

But I thought the writing was great and the premise thought provoking.

In particular, I loved how the moon cue explored the idea of what makes people feel valuable or worthy (or undervalued or worthless) in a relationship. Or how a relationship can make them feel valuable or worthless in the world. I loved the scenes where characters negotiated terms with one another, and addressed these concepts directly.

I also really liked how they addressed the reality of risk in dating, with the SA plotline, and what it means for women in particular to look for love.

I even liked the whole height thing, even though my DH found the surgery twist mildly ludicrous, because it just goes directly towards the question if status, and how that impacts ones marketability in dating. And I loved that moment when Harry "shrinks" and creates this visual that is so fascinating to read my own reaction to. Pascal genuinely gets less attractive in that moment, and I think partly they used perspective and lighting to make that happen,but I also think it's psychological. My DH and I had a whole convo about the height thing after (DH is 5'10", which coincidentally is also Pedro Pascal's real life height). On the one hand, I definitely never had an expectation that any man I dated he 6' (though some were)and I thought friends with this expectation were foolish because I'd do much rather have a kind and attractive man who is 5'10" than someone with an inferior personality who was taller. But also I was never attracted to men my height or shorter (I'm 5'5"). Anyway the height thing was a great issue for this movie because it's very shallow and also it tangibly matters somehow.

Anyway, I thought it was really great. I love that Celine Song made a movie that was more mainstream Hollywood, but stayed true to the thoughtful storytelling that was so good I'm Past Lives. This is one of my favorite romance movies in recent memory.

I’m surprised you thought the premise was thought provoking because I thought it was the same story line that’s been recycled over and over. She could marry the rich guy but instead goes with love and marries a slob who has no money or anything going for him. That’s not new or thought provoking. And based on all of her speeches about doing the math throughout the movie I thought she’d make a more thought provoking choice. Nope.

And Dakota Johnson is about as good as watching a piece of driftwood act.

[Anonymous]

Just finished this. It was fine, I was entertained. But gosh, there was no chemistry between the main characters at all. I had never seen Pedro Pascal act before, not sure I understand the hype. Dakota is pretty but...not a good actor.

Past Lives was such a good movie. This was fine but not up to what I expected, based on that movie.

[Anonymous]

I thought it was dumb and sad. A rich man with a nice face and good personality would absolutely be able to get a nice and pretty woman. Chris Evans is nowhere near as good looking with his weird teeth and he was such a loser.

[Anonymous]

This was a weird friggin movie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was dumb and sad. A rich man with a nice face and good personality would absolutely be able to get a nice and pretty woman. Chris Evans is nowhere near as good looking with his weird teeth and he was such a loser.

+1 They really didn't need to make Chris Evans quite so much of a loser, ruined the film.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was dumb and sad. A rich man with a nice face and good personality would absolutely be able to get a nice and pretty woman. Chris Evans is nowhere near as good looking with his weird teeth and he was such a loser.

+1 They really didn't need to make Chris Evans quite so much of a loser, ruined the film.

You know, you're so right. It's rare to be as old as he was and still living like that. Maybe 10 years earlier, 7 if we're being very generous, but at some point, things get a little better. You go ahead and pick up those extra catering shifts. You increase your standard of living.

[Anonymous]

I hated this movie. Considered it a horror movie

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was dumb and sad. A rich man with a nice face and good personality would absolutely be able to get a nice and pretty woman. Chris Evans is nowhere near as good looking with his weird teeth and he was such a loser.

+1 They really didn't need to make Chris Evans quite so much of a loser, ruined the film.

You know, you're so right. It's rare to be as old as he was and still living like that. Maybe 10 years earlier, 7 if we're being very generous, but at some point, things get a little better. You go ahead and pick up those extra catering shifts. You increase your standard of living.

NP- When I finished the movie I actually thought to myself it actually maybe was supposed to be seen by the audience as a terrifying, horrible ending, like a cautionary tale for women: you will meet a great tall loser in your 20s, fall for him, leave him and date better men, and still go back to the tall loser who did not improve his life because you are a shallow, idiotic sucker for crap men who can't spot a good one even when he stares you in the face. Not pictured of course is what happens post movie: her stressed out and sad with 3 kids in a squalid shitty place as he turns into a bitter, beer bellied alcoholic greater loser.