Need Klonopin to get on a plane but flying to wine country

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Anonymous wrote:There’s not that much difference among the drugs here—certainly not enough to be calling one a “terrible choice.” LMAO.

1 mg of Klonopin is the equivalent of three drinks. So wait however long you would wait after three drinks.

This is extraordinarily foolish advice, and why you should speak to a clinical professional, or at least a reputable source, if you have questions about prescription drugs

What exactly do you take issue with about this advice?

"1 mg of Klonopin is the equivalent of three drinks. So wait however long you would wait after three drinks"

The utter incorrectness of it? The lack of specificity? How long do you "wait after three drinks"? A day? an hour? A quick nap?

This is a dangerous approach, based in nonsense.

If pedantry is what you want, pedantry is what you will get.

1 mg of Klonopin is the equivalent of three drinks in its impact on things like judgment, reaction time, slowing of respiratory drive when paired with opiates, etc.

Klonopin has a longer half-life than alcohol--between 20 and 30 hours for a milligram of Klonopin, vs 4-5 for a single drink.

So if you are a person who could have three drinks and throw back a fourth in the next hour, you probably won't feel much impact if you take a Klonopin and then drink--even on the plane!

If you (like me) are someone who has never had three drinks in a day, you will want to wait longer.

The bottom line is: OP should be aware that a drug with the psychogenic impact of three alcoholic beverages is in their system and will be for 20-30 hours after ingestion.

This absolutely does not require spitting out wine for the rest of a weeklong wine country vacation. OP; if you're flying in the afternoon, take the Klonopin, be fuzzy on the plane, get where you are going, have dinner, sleep, and wake up the next day, and you are otherwise in normal health/not taking potentiating medications, it will be perfectly safe to drink wine the next day.

OP, you're welcome to take advice from whomever/wherever you please, but the pp remains dangerously wrong (and arrogant af).

PP, maybe your "buzz" is the same as 3 drinks, but that subjective analysis isn't science. And the half-life and processing of these two drugs is not. the. same. That's not "pedantry", it's just fact. Your quoted time of "20-30 hours" is incorrect, which was cited upthread already.

Congrats on your future Darwin award, tho. Best.

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Anonymous wrote:The purpose of which is to try wines!
But I have a horrible fear of flying, white-knuckle, and rely on Klonopin to sleep on the plane.
How long should I wait between my dose and wine?
We have a fairly ambitious and busy itinerary.
Pharmacist said "just wait a little bit" which didn't really satisfy.

Why not get a jump on the wine? Surely they serve drinks on the flight still? If not, charter a plane and go in style.

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Anonymous wrote:The purpose of which is to try wines!
But I have a horrible fear of flying, white-knuckle, and rely on Klonopin to sleep on the plane.
How long should I wait between my dose and wine?
We have a fairly ambitious and busy itinerary.
Pharmacist said "just wait a little bit" which didn't really satisfy.

If you wait ten hours or so from taking a Klonopin and having a glass of wine, it should be fine.

But generally, benzos and alcohol are a brutal combination. A very quick journey to blackout territory and even respiratory distress. If this is a drinking vacation, I would avoid combining all together. Choose your benzo or choose your wine. But don't do both.

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Ask the doctor who prescribed it.

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OP, you're welcome to take advice from whomever/wherever you please, but the pp remains dangerously wrong (and arrogant af).

PP, maybe your "buzz" is the same as 3 drinks, but that subjective analysis isn't science. And the half-life and processing of these two drugs is not. the. same. That's not "pedantry", it's just fact. Your quoted time of "20-30 hours" is incorrect, which was cited upthread already.

Congrats on your future Darwin award, tho. Best.

30 hours is what is in the package insert. The suggestion to treat a dose of clonazepam as the functional equivalent of three alcoholic beverages, regardless of one's tolerance (that is: having nothing to do with "buzzedness" or lack thereof) is from a psychiatric pharmacologist--the exact kind of professional OP was trying to get an answer from, and could not.

As for your "cited" figure--someone upthread shared an AI blurb created by Gemini. If AI is what counts as "citation" to you, I fear that the congratulations on the Darwin award in the offing are going to be going in the opposite direction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I say you abstain from drinking. Sip water or anything except alcohol.

Going to wine country to sip water? Crazy pants.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
OP, you're welcome to take advice from whomever/wherever you please, but the pp remains dangerously wrong (and arrogant af).

PP, maybe your "buzz" is the same as 3 drinks, but that subjective analysis isn't science. And the half-life and processing of these two drugs is not. the. same. That's not "pedantry", it's just fact. Your quoted time of "20-30 hours" is incorrect, which was cited upthread already.

Congrats on your future Darwin award, tho. Best.

30 hours is what is in the package insert. The suggestion to treat a dose of clonazepam as the functional equivalent of three alcoholic beverages, regardless of one's tolerance (that is: having nothing to do with "buzzedness" or lack thereof) is from a psychiatric pharmacologist--the exact kind of professional OP was trying to get an answer from, and could not.

As for your "cited" figure--someone upthread shared an AI blurb created by Gemini. If AI is what counts as "citation" to you, I fear that the congratulations on the Darwin award in the offing are going to be going in the opposite direction.

Everyone's a psychiatric pharmacologist on DCUM.

"functional equivalent" is 100% dependent on tolerance. If I drank 3 alcoholic beverages today, I'd be a mess. If I drank 3 drinks before I got sober, that was breakfast.

And yes, someone used AI upthread. There were also credible stats. Weird that you only saw the one... it's almost like you're just here to argue.

[Anonymous]

Gemini suggests not driving when you land lol.

[Anonymous]

OP here: Messaged my psychiatrist who said to wait a full day (if anyone is curious).

[Anonymous]

Ok. 24 hours. Close to 30. Gemini says have a good trip!🍇

[Anonymous]

Hi there, I’m responding as someone who has travel anxiety and experience with meds. Wait until the next day to drink wine if you have a klonopin for the flight. But also consider beta blockers instead. I started using them for travel when I needed to be able to drive a rental car upon landing and realized they do work well for me. I still keep klonopin on hand in case of severe travel anxiety and obviously for potential panic attacks at any time.

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"functional equivalent" is 100% dependent on tolerance. If I drank 3 alcoholic beverages today, I'd be a mess. If I drank 3 drinks before I got sober, that was breakfast.

And yes, someone used AI upthread. There were also credible stats. Weird that you only saw the one... it's almost like you're just here to argue.

I am sorry to hear about your struggle.

The OP is benzodiazepine-naive--and not that much of a drinker, either. You seem bent on arguing a point that has no practical implication for the OP, who has now also been told by her doctor that waiting a day (there's that 20-30 hours again) is the thing to do.

All good wishes to you.

[Anonymous]

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"functional equivalent" is 100% dependent on tolerance. If I drank 3 alcoholic beverages today, I'd be a mess. If I drank 3 drinks before I got sober, that was breakfast.

And yes, someone used AI upthread. There were also credible stats. Weird that you only saw the one... it's almost like you're just here to argue.

I am sorry to hear about your struggle.

The OP is benzodiazepine-naive--and not that much of a drinker, either. You seem bent on arguing a point that has no practical implication for the OP, who has now also been told by her doctor that waiting a day (there's that 20-30 hours again) is the thing to do.

All good wishes to you.

Cool. Thx.