It really isn’t obvious outside Power 4 D1. There are plenty of kids on the bubble of D1 and D3 and baseball is one of the most subjective sports that sometimes it’s surprising who ends up at lower level D1 (based on competitive level) vs D3 schools like JHU (which was ranked #1 for most of the year for D3). |
Power 4 D1 players will find their way onto these teams. It’s different for other D1 levels and there is a fairly clear differential in the average talent level of a Power 4 team vs a Fordham or Farleigh Dickinson D1. |
Except you are competing against kids at say Alabama that aren’t getting any playing time. It will get worse with roster sizes getting cut by 15%. |
Were ALL Power 4 D1 players on one of these teams? I really would love to see the actual numbers on this. |
This is going to sound contrarian, but if he’s serious about D1, don’t waste your time with fall ball. Instead, spend those precious hours living in the weight room, weekly high quality position appropriate lessons, and monthly meeting with nutritionist. Do this for the next 24 months. In the past 3 years it’s become exponentially harder for a HS baseball player to get D1 recruited. There are literally thousands of proven college baseball players currently in the transfer portal. Unless he has a high ceiling as a pitcher or gifted middle infielder, he needs to get huge and get fast in order to have a shot without going the JUCO route to mature physically. |
No, they don't. And most have no idea how hard college sports are. They think anyone who had a chat with a coach and got a verbal offer is going to sign a NLI to play for that team. The fact is that 85% of the kids who commit on signing day will never see meaningful play time and some will get cut from the team after their freshman year. They have no idea how hard it is to play for an Ivy or a Patriot league school. They bought into the travel scam of work hard and it will pay off. |
Two things - 1. Go look at the Penn roster. Nearly every player on there was a stud in HS. I can't find one player who didn't have a shot at other high D1 schools. Playing D1 is very very hard and the difference between Vandy and Penn players is not as big as you think. 2. Going to Penn means nothing. Come back when the guy signed a letter, made the team and has playing time. |
Dude..I am quite familiar with the Penn baseball team, the coaches and their recruiting. The kid committed to Penn is a 2025 grad…so he has signed his letter and it would be shocking for him to not make the team. You are crazy to think those kids had much of a shot at a Power 4 D1. The Penn coaches will even admit this. I mean, I guess everybody has a shot…but no way in hell that Penn and Power 4 programs are actively trying to recruit the same kid. |
Usually at some point…but it is possible to take a very focused D1 approach. There are a couple of kids that are D1 commits to Georgetown and UMD that play for top DMV high school teams (one is SJC). Those players have HS coaches that are very well known (and SJC has its own Cadets program) and there are multiple opportunities for UMD and Georgetown to see them locally. |
Though Georgetown isn’t Power 4 (which are ACC, SEC, Big10 and Big 12). |
You're making it sound like playing a Penn or Brown isn't that hard. Every single player on the roster was a stud in high school and not some role player on their varsity team. The gap between the Penn players and your average Varsity/youth travel ball player is huge. |
They do have to be strong players…but the number 8-10 recruits could just have easily dropped down to play at a JHU and vice versa. There isn’t some obvious dividing line. |
So just take your word for it? No actual data? |
I was supporting your assertion that not all kids play on these national travel teams. There is no definitive information…Google AI says that 90% of Power 4 coaches find their players through relationships with travel coaches. If you play for Corona high school in CA that has 3 kids expected to go first round in the MLB draft this Summer than you probably could get recruited by just playing for your high school team…but of course you would have to somehow make the varsity team without playing for an elite club team. Those 3 kids play for BPA which is the #1 ranked travel team in the country for 2025s. |
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