Does Vance go to Sunday Mass?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He's a fake Catholic, so who really cares. Any real Catholic would have baptized his kids and had his wife convert. The whole thing is a transparent deviant sham to make this power hungry worm seem palatable. Spare me giving every supposed convert the benefit of the doubt. Sorry, no, I'm not a sucker and don't appreciate my religion being weaponized by frauds seeking to get over on people.

I could make a long list of things that Vance has done that are not in keeping with the teachings of the Catholic Church. But not forcing his wife to convert is definitely not on that list. Forcing your wife to convert is very much against Catholic teaching.

Well, given that half of my family converted in order to marry other Catholics, the entirety of Catholic practice over the course of the last 1500 years would like a word with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He's a fake Catholic, so who really cares. Any real Catholic would have baptized his kids and had his wife convert. The whole thing is a transparent deviant sham to make this power hungry worm seem palatable. Spare me giving every supposed convert the benefit of the doubt. Sorry, no, I'm not a sucker and don't appreciate my religion being weaponized by frauds seeking to get over on people.

I could make a long list of things that Vance has done that are not in keeping with the teachings of the Catholic Church. But not forcing his wife to convert is definitely not on that list. Forcing your wife to convert is very much against Catholic teaching.

Well, given that half of my family converted in order to marry other Catholics, the entirety of Catholic practice over the course of the last 1500 years would like a word with you.

I'm the one who posted this. I am a Catholic who converted to Catholicism so that I would have the same religion as my then fiance. But he didn't force me. My conversion didn't make him more Catholic.

I'll add that there have definitely been times when Catholic practice included forced conversions. But that is not currently a teaching of the Catholic church.

The fact that Vance converted after his marriage is also relevant.

[Anonymous]

God works in mysterious ways, and I am perfectly prepared to accept that this highly imperfect man has found God, even though it looks to jaded outsiders that he's just a striving hypocrite looking to attach himself to any and all institutions of power.

But yes, the jokes just write themselves. Watch out for Pope Leo falling sick over the next few days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the Pope told Vance to stick it.

+1

Apparently the Pope gave Vance 17 whole seconds in a receiving line but conducted longer meetings with other world leaders. This followed a service where the Pope sermonized, “In this our time, we still see too much discord, too many wounds caused by hatred, violence, prejudice, the fear of difference, and an economic paradigm that exploits the Earth’s resources and marginalizes the poorest.” https://www.thedailybeast.com/pope-leo-xiv-snubs-jd-vance-as-he-meets-with-world-leaders/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He's a fake Catholic, so who really cares. Any real Catholic would have baptized his kids and had his wife convert. The whole thing is a transparent deviant sham to make this power hungry worm seem palatable. Spare me giving every supposed convert the benefit of the doubt. Sorry, no, I'm not a sucker and don't appreciate my religion being weaponized by frauds seeking to get over on people.

I could make a long list of things that Vance has done that are not in keeping with the teachings of the Catholic Church. But not forcing his wife to convert is definitely not on that list. Forcing your wife to convert is very much against Catholic teaching.

Well, given that half of my family converted in order to marry other Catholics, the entirety of Catholic practice over the course of the last 1500 years would like a word with you.

+1. You can tell these are GOP trolls responding and not actual devout Catholics. What they're arguing is James is going to Heaven and his wife is going to hell -- and that's okay.

[Anonymous]

I'll be happy when it's no longer trendy to be Catholic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the Pope told Vance to stick it.

+1

Apparently the Pope gave Vance 17 whole seconds in a receiving line but conducted longer meetings with other world leaders. This followed a service where the Pope sermonized, “In this our time, we still see too much discord, too many wounds caused by hatred, violence, prejudice, the fear of difference, and an economic paradigm that exploits the Earth’s resources and marginalizes the poorest.” https://www.thedailybeast.com/pope-leo-xiv-snubs-jd-vance-as-he-meets-with-world-leaders/

There was a separate 45 min talk with Vance, Rubio and the pontiff, PP. No journalists present.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:God, please smite him.

Let’s all pray a novena

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He's a fake Catholic, so who really cares. Any real Catholic would have baptized his kids and had his wife convert. The whole thing is a transparent deviant sham to make this power hungry worm seem palatable. Spare me giving every supposed convert the benefit of the doubt. Sorry, no, I'm not a sucker and don't appreciate my religion being weaponized by frauds seeking to get over on people.

How do you know he didn’t have his kids baptized?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious how that works given his schedule.

If he misses mass on Sundays and holidays days of obligation, it's a mortal sin, no matter his schedule.

Actually, that's not exactly true. The Church says that the obligation to attend Mass is lifted in three types of situations. If you are ill. If you are facing a situation where not attending is the morally right thing to do (e.g. if you planned to attend Sunday morning Mass, but got called in to perform emergency surgery, then obviously saving the life is the right thing to do. If your wife is in labor, then being with her and supporting her is morally the right thing to do. I could imagine that there would be situations when a VP or President must attend to urgent business, and that staying with that business is the morally right thing to do. Finally, if you have a dispensation from your parish priest, or your bishop, again something he might have.

Having said that, I would imagine that there are priests who would be willing to celebrate a private Mass at the VP's residence etc . . . that work around his schedule.

Note: I can't stand Vance. I hate so many things that he does. I hope the Pope excommunicates him. But, as a Catholic, I don't think that announcing that he's not Catholic is fair. The reality is that, like every other religion, there are people in the Catholic church who make terrible choices. As Catholics, our obligation is to examine our church to see what we might be doing that contributes to those terrible choices, and to try to solve the problems those terrible choices lead to. Announcing that he's not Catholic, is like sticking our fingers in our ears. It's not going to lead to solutions.

Not to mention, whatever sin Vance might commit by not attending Mass, if in fact he has missed without illness, grave situation, or dispensation, pales in comparison to the sins he's helped this administration commit against vulnerable humans made in the image of God.

Seems like it should be a sin to even be the VP of Trump, who is so obviously an atheist. I should say that some, maybe most, atheists are decent people, but Trump is not one of those. He is taking advantage of religious people by pretending to be one of them.

I am the poster you quoted and that’s my point. Occasionally skipping Mass because you have a demanding job is a tiny sin compared to deporting 4 year olds with brain cancer, or stopping HIV prophylaxis for pregnant women in Africa. If Vance goes to Hell it won’t be because he missed a Holy Day of Obligation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He's a fake Catholic, so who really cares. Any real Catholic would have baptized his kids and had his wife convert. The whole thing is a transparent deviant sham to make this power hungry worm seem palatable. Spare me giving every supposed convert the benefit of the doubt. Sorry, no, I'm not a sucker and don't appreciate my religion being weaponized by frauds seeking to get over on people.

How do you know he didn’t have his kids baptized?

We know he did not have his kids baptized because of this--his son was 7 when he chose to be baptized.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/jd-vance-my-sons-decision-to-be-baptized-was-more-exciting-than-winning-2024-election/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He's a fake Catholic, so who really cares. Any real Catholic would have baptized his kids and had his wife convert. The whole thing is a transparent deviant sham to make this power hungry worm seem palatable. Spare me giving every supposed convert the benefit of the doubt. Sorry, no, I'm not a sucker and don't appreciate my religion being weaponized by frauds seeking to get over on people.

How do you know he didn’t have his kids baptized?

We know he did not have his kids baptized because of this--his son was 7 when he chose to be baptized.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/jd-vance-my-sons-decision-to-be-baptized-was-more-exciting-than-winning-2024-election/

I’m happy for him and his son, but we all know that the kid was basically confronting a situation where all his classmates were going to get First Comminion parties and presents, and he’d be left out unless he got baptized.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:God, please smite him.

+1

Please, God. We need you to do some smiting.

lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He’s sending his son to a catholic school

Which one?

[Anonymous]

I’m just wondering if anyone has ever seen him at Sunday mass.