Interesting tidbits re VA state schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nothing about what you posted Op surprises me. But I'm glad you posted it, in case others (esp OOS) don't know.

I think it’s surprising to many posters than several VA schools are easier to get into from out of state than in state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another interesting tidbit: Arlington (36) and Alexandria (34) applicants to UVA get admitted
at higher rates than Fairfax (29) and Loudoun (27)

Thats interesting but not sure you can compare since Arlington has 2,100 and Alexandria 1,100 seniors vs. Fairfax 15,100 and Loudoun 7,100.

[Anonymous]

I get the impression that UVA, W&M, and VT are state flagships and national universities, with dramatically different profiles in and out of state. JMU seems like a regional school of second choice, like American. VCU and GMU seem like instate second-tier schools with no regional or national profiles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I get the impression that UVA, W&M, and VT are state flagships and national universities, with dramatically different profiles in and out of state. JMU seems like a regional school of second choice, like American. VCU and GMU seem like instate second-tier schools with no regional or national profiles.

Well, Virginia does not actually designate a flagship, but UVA would be the de facto one. VT would often be referred to as the land grant university. W&M is a national university in USNWR, but it is often considered as an alternative to SLACs at the undergraduate level. I don't necessarily agree with your distinctions between JMU, VCU, and GMU. I believe they are all included in USNWR National Universities now. USNWR is really using Carnegie Classifications to distinguish between National Universities (R1/R2) and regional or LAC designations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just from a quick review of SCHEV website, which has lots of official statistics.

Unlike UVA and William & Mary, it’s actually easier to get into JMU, GMU and VCU from out of state than in state, and there’s really no difference between OOS and in state when it comes to VT.

UVA’s and VT’s in state yields are both much, much better than William & Mary’s. But W&M’s yield is higher than JMU’s.
JMU’s in state yield is shockingly low. Clearly it is a first choice school for very, very few.

There is a HUGE difference for in state versus out of state at Virginia Tech. Whatever are you on about?

I guess it depends on how you look at it. While a higher percentage of VT out of state applicants get admitted (64 percent versus 47 percent according to the most recently available statistics), the average math scores of out of state students are higher. That’s probably because the biggest draw for out of states students would be engineering.

Actually, apologies. I totally misread and thought you were talking about tuition prices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I get the impression that UVA, W&M, and VT are state flagships and national universities, with dramatically different profiles in and out of state. JMU seems like a regional school of second choice, like American. VCU and GMU seem like instate second-tier schools with no regional or national profiles.

This is pretty accurate. GMU might have a bigger profile in certain areas due to its law and public policy schools. VCU has a respected medical school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I get the impression that UVA, W&M, and VT are state flagships and national universities, with dramatically different profiles in and out of state. JMU seems like a regional school of second choice, like American. VCU and GMU seem like instate second-tier schools with no regional or national profiles.

This is pretty accurate. GMU might have a bigger profile in certain areas due to its law and public policy schools. VCU has a respected medical school.

VCU is strong in health and very strong in arts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nothing about what you posted Op surprises me. But I'm glad you posted it, in case others (esp OOS) don't know.

From Maryland, this info is inconsequential given our options. My kid is headed to JMU in the fall and so are many friends from MCPS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing about what you posted Op surprises me. But I'm glad you posted it, in case others (esp OOS) don't know.

I think it’s surprising to many posters than several VA schools are easier to get into from out of state than in state.

Because out of state yield is very low. That doesn’t mean they’re taking in-state seats.

[Anonymous]

Op is a VT alum and trying to make VT more than just an oversized average school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just from a quick review of SCHEV website, which has lots of official statistics.

Unlike UVA and William & Mary, it’s actually easier to get into JMU, GMU and VCU from out of state than in state, and there’s really no difference between OOS and in state when it comes to VT.

UVA’s and VT’s in state yields are both much, much better than William & Mary’s. But W&M’s yield is higher than JMU’s.
JMU’s in state yield is shockingly low. Clearly it is a first choice school for very, very few.

JMU was first choice for mine. Only interest, actually. Only VA school applied to. Turned down two OOS.

Same here. JMU is a hugely popular school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op is a VT alum and trying to make VT more than just an oversized average school.

WTF? You sound disgruntled. Sorry your kid didn't get into VT and now you take it out on unsuspecting posters. Get a grip.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Op is a VT alum and trying to make VT more than just an oversized average school.

WTF? You sound disgruntled. Sorry your kid didn't get into VT and now you take it out on unsuspecting posters. Get a grip.

No. My kid got into VT as did all her other friends. It was a great safety.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op is a VT alum and trying to make VT more than just an oversized average school.

WTF? You sound disgruntled. Sorry your kid didn't get into VT and now you take it out on unsuspecting posters. Get a grip.

No. My kid got into VT as did all her other friends. It was a great safety.

Nice trolling. Not convincing anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:OP's point is to stir up the JMU love/hate debate. Just an unfortunate troll. Don't feed it.

Not my point at all. Just sharing some factual information that folks may find surprising.

Actually none of this is surprising. Either you’re a troll or not very informed.

Considering the responses I am getting from other posters, I’m being helpful. I think, for example, some folks might be interested to know that only 27% of in states students offered admission at JMU accept the offer. That does leave hope for the waitlist.

My guess is that the OP was posting the most of the initial positive responses herself. Same old, same old. Trolls gotta troll.