New NIH grant rules

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I don't get it.

Can we study menopause? That only affects women. So is that DEI? Can we study women's recovery from birth? Can we study postpartum depression?

Can we study the fact that physicians underestimate pain perception in Black patients? Or do we have to just ignore that?

Can we train people that depression symptoms often show up as physical complaints in East Asian populations? Or do we have to not tell our trainees that?

Even if the left, or even NIH, went to far with DEI, the idea that we can't study/train these things AT ALL is outrageous. If you're a conservative, you have to know that this is a really stupid overcorrection.

This new policy is awful and outrageous. It's a snowflake level overcorrection and will hurt women - especially women's health research - as well as minorities. Also, students and professors should be free to research what they want and if it's a compelling topic (that includes the word gender or mentions a minority group) it should be able to compete for funding.

I hate what Trump has been doing and continues to do to our country. I didn't vote for him and am proud of that. I hope others who may have been swayed by him have now looked at what he's doing to our economy and votes him out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New articles state NIH will not participate in grants with any university that has DEI programming or diverse from Israel…

The DEI portion seems like it would impact many highly respected research universities

The Trump administration is simply applying the law and fighting racial discrimination, specifically: requiring compliance with Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which prohibits race-based discrimination in federally funded programs.

Aren’t you opposed to race-based discrimination, OP?

[Anonymous]

Gotcha. We want women to have more babies, but it’s now illegal to research fertility, pregnancy outcomes, post partum issues, etc, etc. because DEI. Makes perfect sense.

I too want a definition of DEI. It’s like “woke”— it means everything you disagree with and nothing substantive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The rule will obviously have to define its terms.

I don’t think so. This administration acts on typo-filled, grammatically incorrect Truth Social posts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New articles state NIH will not participate in grants with any university that has DEI programming or diverse from Israel…

The DEI portion seems like it would impact many highly respected research universities

The Trump administration is simply applying the law and fighting racial discrimination, specifically: requiring compliance with Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which prohibits race-based discrimination in federally funded programs.

Aren’t you opposed to race-based discrimination, OP?

Black people have lowed eFGRs, because ewe assume they have different muscle density (without actually looking at an individuals muscle density), which affects their qualifications for dialysis and kidney transplant. But, let’s not deal with that issue. DEI!!!

[Anonymous]

Why can't the NIH just limit grants to what they want to fund? How do they have the right to say what other groups and programs are on campus?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gotcha. We want women to have more babies, but it’s now illegal to research fertility, pregnancy outcomes, post partum issues, etc, etc. because DEI. Makes perfect sense.

I too want a definition of DEI. It’s like “woke”— it means everything you disagree with and nothing substantive.

Yup, DEI as I have seen it wasn't about having unqualified women and brown people and poor people succeed in life. It was about making sure that qualified women and brown and poor people could succeed in life without discrimination or undue barriers. Hard to do if you can't talk about scientifically evident differences in health.

[Anonymous]

How do they define DEI? I mean I’m in healthcare and healthcare disparities are a fact. Certain conditions also impact certain populations to a greater degree. Does no DEi mean no more studies on women’s cardiac health? LGBT issues? Mental health within certain populations? Kidney disease in specific groups? At this point, my hospital remains committed to DEI initiatives. No, it doesn’t mean white men are discriminated against (white men have always been the default). But I wonder if this administration is going to go after hospitals next.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gotcha. We want women to have more babies, but it’s now illegal to research fertility, pregnancy outcomes, post partum issues, etc, etc. because DEI. Makes perfect sense.

I too want a definition of DEI. It’s like “woke”— it means everything you disagree with and nothing substantive.

Men give birth to babies too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gotcha. We want women to have more babies, but it’s now illegal to research fertility, pregnancy outcomes, post partum issues, etc, etc. because DEI. Makes perfect sense.

I too want a definition of DEI. It’s like “woke”— it means everything you disagree with and nothing substantive.

Yup, DEI as I have seen it wasn't about having unqualified women and brown people and poor people succeed in life. It was about making sure that qualified women and brown and poor people could succeed in life without discrimination or undue barriers. Hard to do if you can't talk about scientifically evident differences in health.

Men, as well as many of the other genders, can give birth to babies too, you know. That is a scientific fact.

Science is real, PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gotcha. We want women to have more babies, but it’s now illegal to research fertility, pregnancy outcomes, post partum issues, etc, etc. because DEI. Makes perfect sense.

I too want a definition of DEI. It’s like “woke”— it means everything you disagree with and nothing substantive.

Yup, DEI as I have seen it wasn't about having unqualified women and brown people and poor people succeed in life. It was about making sure that qualified women and brown and poor people could succeed in life without discrimination or undue barriers. Hard to do if you can't talk about scientifically evident differences in health.

Men, as well as many of the other genders, can give birth to babies too, you know. That is a scientific fact.

Science is real, PP.

Oh the trans bogeyman that is hurting your life in so many ways. Keep talking about that when your female loved one has ovarian cancer, and the NIH grants studying women have been canceled because..DEI.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gotcha. We want women to have more babies, but it’s now illegal to research fertility, pregnancy outcomes, post partum issues, etc, etc. because DEI. Makes perfect sense.

I too want a definition of DEI. It’s like “woke”— it means everything you disagree with and nothing substantive.

Yup, DEI as I have seen it wasn't about having unqualified women and brown people and poor people succeed in life. It was about making sure that qualified women and brown and poor people could succeed in life without discrimination or undue barriers. Hard to do if you can't talk about scientifically evident differences in health.

Men, as well as many of the other genders, can give birth to babies too, you know. That is a scientific fact.

Science is real, PP.

Oh the trans bogeyman that is hurting your life in so many ways. Keep talking about that when your female loved one has ovarian cancer, and the NIH grants studying women have been canceled because..DEI.

Let me ask you this, PP:

How is getting rid of DEI affecting you personally?

Seriously: why do you care?

[Anonymous]

Will any school with frats then not get research grants since frats are all male clubs that are not inclusive of women and the university at large ?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gotcha. We want women to have more babies, but it’s now illegal to research fertility, pregnancy outcomes, post partum issues, etc, etc. because DEI. Makes perfect sense.

I too want a definition of DEI. It’s like “woke”— it means everything you disagree with and nothing substantive.

Yup, DEI as I have seen it wasn't about having unqualified women and brown people and poor people succeed in life. It was about making sure that qualified women and brown and poor people could succeed in life without discrimination or undue barriers. Hard to do if you can't talk about scientifically evident differences in health.

Men, as well as many of the other genders, can give birth to babies too, you know. That is a scientific fact.

Science is real, PP.

Oh the trans bogeyman that is hurting your life in so many ways. Keep talking about that when your female loved one has ovarian cancer, and the NIH grants studying women have been canceled because..DEI.

Let me ask you this, PP:

How is getting rid of DEI affecting you personally?

Seriously: why do you care?

Because it hurts me to see this administration wreaking havoc on our nation's public health, foreign policy and competitive edge in the name of DEI.
Because I care about women and people of color and know that there is a long history of people getting denied opportunities they because of discrimination.
Because I know that women have different health issues from men and that different ethnicities are more affected by certain diseases.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good. DEI was forced by federal contract on entities under Biden. The President of Harvard very carefully doesn’t support DEI in his public statements because it’s wildly unpopular.

many agree and many do not understand that a lot of govt grants (ie tax dollar supported grants) required DEI the past 3 years