Weapons Detection System Pilot

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d rather have this then guns brought to school.

These systems do not work.

That’s true: the system failed to stop past shootings in school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d rather have this then guns brought to school.

These systems do not work.

That’s true: the system failed to stop past shootings in school.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/01/us/ai-gun-detection-software-antioch-school/index.html

[Anonymous]

The video explains that students must remove laptops and binders from their backpacks, hand them to a staff member, then walk through the detector.

I can see jams at the door as students struggle to get their laptops and binders out. The video also had the laptop charging cord taken out, so I guess that needs to be removed as well?

The FAQ states that the system may be alerted by "3-ring binders, laptops, eyeglass cases, umbrellas, and metal lunchboxes or pencil cases." So do those come out as well? That's a lot of stuff to remove from your backpack to prevent triggering the device. I wonder how the system works with band instruments?

I get why this is being done, and it sucks that we're in this kind of position. I'd rather this than a school shooting. Still, my kid watched the video and said, "We're all going to be late to class if we have to dig through our backpack to get everything out, then put everything back in. And what if you hide a knife in your binder?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS just emailed about this. I am thrilled!

How is this a good thing?

It is fairly depressing, actually. How anyone can be "thrilled" over this astounds me

Weapons won’t be able to be brought in. They will be detected.

The elementary school in Charles county that had a gun go off yesterday had one of these. Clearly didn’t work since a 4th grader brought a gun in his backpack

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The video explains that students must remove laptops and binders from their backpacks, hand them to a staff member, then walk through the detector.

I can see jams at the door as students struggle to get their laptops and binders out. The video also had the laptop charging cord taken out, so I guess that needs to be removed as well?

The FAQ states that the system may be alerted by "3-ring binders, laptops, eyeglass cases, umbrellas, and metal lunchboxes or pencil cases." So do those come out as well? That's a lot of stuff to remove from your backpack to prevent triggering the device. I wonder how the system works with band instruments?

I get why this is being done, and it sucks that we're in this kind of position. I'd rather this than a school shooting. Still, my kid watched the video and said, "We're all going to be late to class if we have to dig through our backpack to get everything out, then put everything back in. And what if you hide a knife in your binder?"

+1

This system is another stupid idea from FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d rather have this then guns brought to school.

These systems do not work.

That’s true: the system failed to stop past shootings in school.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/01/us/ai-gun-detection-software-antioch-school/index.html

Thanks for posting article although scary to read for the Nashville shooting why the technology didn’t detect the gun the shooter used in school shooting : “To detect a gun, the camera must be able to “see” the gun, he said, adding the gun was not visible.” Is the FCPS technology the same as what was in Nashville? Reads it’s more a chilling effect than anything else.

[Anonymous]

We have these at my DD's high school, there's one at every entrance and exit around 5, and the security guards are the ones who tend to them. They wait in lines and just get their computers out and it's not that long at all. It's worked great so far and there have been no weapons brought to school ever since this system has been in place since the beginning of the 23-24 school yr.

[Anonymous]

Another in a long line of things to be cut before FCPS gets one more extra tax dollar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have these at my DD's high school, there's one at every entrance and exit around 5, and the security guards are the ones who tend to them. They wait in lines and just get their computers out and it's not that long at all. It's worked great so far and there have been no weapons brought to school ever since this system has been in place since the beginning of the 23-24 school yr.

You mean no weapons that you know of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have these at my DD's high school, there's one at every entrance and exit around 5, and the security guards are the ones who tend to them. They wait in lines and just get their computers out and it's not that long at all. It's worked great so far and there have been no weapons brought to school ever since this system has been in place since the beginning of the 23-24 school yr.

This is great to hear!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The video explains that students must remove laptops and binders from their backpacks, hand them to a staff member, then walk through the detector.

I can see jams at the door as students struggle to get their laptops and binders out. The video also had the laptop charging cord taken out, so I guess that needs to be removed as well?

The FAQ states that the system may be alerted by "3-ring binders, laptops, eyeglass cases, umbrellas, and metal lunchboxes or pencil cases." So do those come out as well? That's a lot of stuff to remove from your backpack to prevent triggering the device. I wonder how the system works with band instruments?

I get why this is being done, and it sucks that we're in this kind of position. I'd rather this than a school shooting. Still, my kid watched the video and said, "We're all going to be late to class if we have to dig through our backpack to get everything out, then put everything back in. And what if you hide a knife in your binder?"

2700 kids through one foor eith all of this?

FCPS,better not deploy these during AP tests.

[Anonymous]

dumbest shit ever

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also, if these become permanent, they will need staff to be there to attend to them... staff that won't be able to supervise the other kids inside the building, and that lack of supervision has been a problem in places where this has been implemented. Not saying the system isn't a need or good... just that there is an impact there and if something goes down in other places where admin and security can't be, it's an issue

This is true. And it happened right next door in Prince William County last school year
https://wjla.com/news/local/student-attacked-patriot-high-school-lawsuit-suing-prince-william-county-public-schools-attorney-debbie-rose-knocking-someone-unconscious-kick-head-video-attackers-charged-dmv

"“The school division was on notice from the school principal earlier in the summer that they did not have enough personnel to man both the Evolv system entry points in the morning and the common areas where the students were - that in the event of an incident - they wouldn't maybe be able to be able to respond appropriately,” Rose said. “And that, in fact, did happen.”

The Evolv system is a weapon detection technology that currently exists at the front doors inside Prince William County high schools.

Rose argues Prince William County Public Schools had been warned on at least two occasions that an attack like this could happen in school."[i]

[Anonymous]

FCPS sucks at implementing technology for academic purposes, can’t see them doing any better here.

Budget shortfall, so let’s add technology that increases the need for more bodies. Interesting approach no wonder they can’t get by on $4B a year.

[Anonymous]

Kid leaves weapon in car.
Goes in through WDS in the morning.
Goes out to car at lunchtime, when non-WDS doors are open, retrieves weapon, goes back in.

Or will there be WDS on every door, all the time? (Schools have what, at least ten doors?)