Why does Congress even exist?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Trump is calling 100% of the shots he is signing executive orders every day that apparently have the effect of law. He's not questioned. He's not thwarted. Every news story is just about Trump and his actions. I know Congress has always had a bad reputation as "do nothing" but this has become absolutely ludicrous. Are they doing effing anything? I mean, I guess we are a monarchy after all. everything becomes new again I guess.


Were you complaining when Obama said if Congress doesn't do what he wants, 'I have my pen and my phone'?
Or when Biden decided he would ignore laws and not enforce them or created new classes of work visas?


DP. If you were bothered by Obama and Biden executive orders, you should be bothered by Trump‘s as well. Below are the numbers of EO’s signed by each president.

- **Obama:** 276 total (147 in first term, 129 in second term)
- **Biden:** 162 total (single term)
- **Trump:** 329 total so far (220 in first term, 109 in second term as of April 05, 2025)
Source: grok

One key difference this time is that, under the Trump administration, his executive orders have more power because his administration is ignoring the courts and Congress is not opposing his EO’s. Obama and Biden were sued in the courts numerous times and when they lost, they abided by the decision. This president doesn’t care about the courts or Congress. He feels the executive branch is the most important.



Grok this, pal.

Biden’s Student Loan Boast: The Supreme Court ‘Didn’t Stop Me’

The President ignores the law again as he forgives more student debt. The total is now $138 billion and counting.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-biden-student-debt-forgiveness-supreme-court-0c5204fe


Grok this you moron.

"In June 2023, the Supreme Court ruled 6-3 in Biden v. Nebraska that Biden's initial plan to forgive up to $20,000 in federal student loan debt for millions of borrowers, costing an estimated $400 billion, exceeded his executive authority under the HEROES Act of 2003. The Court held that such a significant action required explicit congressional approval, striking down the broad forgiveness program before any debt was canceled.
Following this decision, Biden complied with the ruling by not implementing that specific plan. Instead, his administration pivoted to alternative approaches, using existing legal authorities to cancel smaller amounts of student debt for specific groups. Since the ruling, the administration has forgiven over $175 billion in student loans for nearly 5 million borrowers through programs like Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF), income-driven repayment (IDR) adjustments, and relief for borrowers defrauded by for-profit colleges. These efforts relied on pre-existing statutory mechanisms, not the HEROES Act plan the Court rejected."

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump is calling 100% of the shots he is signing executive orders every day that apparently have the effect of law. He's not questioned. He's not thwarted. Every news story is just about Trump and his actions. I know Congress has always had a bad reputation as "do nothing" but this has become absolutely ludicrous. Are they doing effing anything? I mean, I guess we are a monarchy after all. everything becomes new again I guess.


Were you complaining when Obama said if Congress doesn't do what he wants, 'I have my pen and my phone'?
Or when Biden decided he would ignore laws and not enforce them or created new classes of work visas?


When did Obama or Biden ever do what Trump is doing, an to this extent? I’ll wait.[/quote
They are different people with different policy priorities. The question for this thread is why is the President doing things without Congress?
Anonymous
The MAGA view is that Congress has never done its job so screw that. And the courts have no right to interfere with the President, so screw them to. In online arguments, I've been suggesting that what they want is to just quit a constitutional system together. Then they double down on the president has to because nobody else is.

Found this:
In the run-up to the 2016 election, Trump listed his top 10 legislative priorities as part of his “Contract with the American Voter,” which included repeal of the Affordable Care Act, infrastructure investment, harsher prison sentences for immigration violations, and full funding of a border wall to be reimbursed by Mexico. None of that reached his desk. The only wish list items that did were a military spending bill and a tax cut bill, the latter of which incorporated a part of a third item, an expanded child tax credit.

Biden fared much better with his core agenda. In July 2020, as he campaigned for the presidency, he laid out a vision for rebuilding the middle class through investments in infrastructure, manufacturing, and clean energy. In November 2021, he signed a $1 trillion infrastructure bill. Then, in August 2022, he signed the CHIPS bill, which invests $280 billion in semiconductor manufacturing. Days later, he signed the Inflation Reduction Act, which invests $370 billion in clean energy and related infrastructure, along with provisions designed to reduce health care costs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Trump is calling 100% of the shots he is signing executive orders every day that apparently have the effect of law. He's not questioned. He's not thwarted. Every news story is just about Trump and his actions. I know Congress has always had a bad reputation as "do nothing" but this has become absolutely ludicrous. Are they doing effing anything? I mean, I guess we are a monarchy after all. everything becomes new again I guess.


In this thread: the same people who hate the conservatives' skepticism of the administrative state explain to you that, actually, Congress and not the executive branch should be the primary policy formulators
Anonymous
Following the Roy Cohn and JE Hoover playbooks, he has stuff on the Repulsivecans. And they are scared Musts money will primary them. If they grew spines they would do their jobs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump is calling 100% of the shots he is signing executive orders every day that apparently have the effect of law. He's not questioned. He's not thwarted. Every news story is just about Trump and his actions. I know Congress has always had a bad reputation as "do nothing" but this has become absolutely ludicrous. Are they doing effing anything? I mean, I guess we are a monarchy after all. everything becomes new again I guess.


Were you complaining when Obama said if Congress doesn't do what he wants, 'I have my pen and my phone'?
Or when Biden decided he would ignore laws and not enforce them or created new classes of work visas?


DP. If you were bothered by Obama and Biden executive orders, you should be bothered by Trump‘s as well. Below are the numbers of EO’s signed by each president.

- **Obama:** 276 total (147 in first term, 129 in second term)
- **Biden:** 162 total (single term)
- **Trump:** 329 total so far (220 in first term, 109 in second term as of April 05, 2025)
Source: grok

One key difference this time is that, under the Trump administration, his executive orders have more power because his administration is ignoring the courts and Congress is not opposing his EO’s. Obama and Biden were sued in the courts numerous times and when they lost, they abided by the decision. This president doesn’t care about the courts or Congress. He feels the executive branch is the most important.



Grok this, pal.

Biden’s Student Loan Boast: The Supreme Court ‘Didn’t Stop Me’

The President ignores the law again as he forgives more student debt. The total is now $138 billion and counting.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-biden-student-debt-forgiveness-supreme-court-0c5204fe


What do you think that article says?

Rupert Murdoch's gang puts their lies in the opinion page when they can't find facts in the news page.

I'm not interested in their "Opinion" of Biden.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Following the Roy Cohn and JE Hoover playbooks, he has stuff on the Repulsivecans. And they are scared Musts money will primary them. If they grew spines they would do their jobs.


They should keep in mind that they likely wont get pardons at the end of this all. Even their base will come after them, eventually:

https://newrepublic.com/post/191740/trump-lutnick-cut-social-security-medicaid-medicare?utm_source=Threads&utm_campaign=SF_TNR&utm_medium=social
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Following the Roy Cohn and JE Hoover playbooks, he has stuff on the Repulsivecans. And they are scared Musts money will primary them. If they grew spines they would do their jobs.


The Wisconsin Supreme Court election just proved that Musk can be beaten and that they should not cower before him.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump is calling 100% of the shots he is signing executive orders every day that apparently have the effect of law. He's not questioned. He's not thwarted. Every news story is just about Trump and his actions. I know Congress has always had a bad reputation as "do nothing" but this has become absolutely ludicrous. Are they doing effing anything? I mean, I guess we are a monarchy after all. everything becomes new again I guess.


In this thread: the same people who hate the conservatives' skepticism of the administrative state explain to you that, actually, Congress and not the executive branch should be the primary policy formulators


Conservatives have a fundamentally broken understanding of government leading them to this derangement about the "administrative state." They seem to believe that federal agencies have rooms full of unelected bureaucrats with nothing better to do than sit around dreaming up random bullshit regulations for no good purpose other than to burden industry.

The reality of it is this: CONGRESS passes the laws and passes them on to the Executive branch to implement (execute on) those laws. Often the laws as written are a loose framework that doesn't give specific guidance on how to implement, so the agency then needs to develop a way to implement it within the framework of the law passed to them by Congress. That is the rulemaking, the development of regulations. And that process comes with its own layers of oversight and accountability.

Republicans seem to have some bizarre inability to connect those dots and therefore think the regulations promulgated by agencies just come from nowhere when in fact they have a statutory basis in laws passed by Congress. By that same token they (incorrectly) think agencies can just "pass laws made up out of thin air" (which they don't) that is why they don't have a problem with Trump making up EOs out of thin air that go completely beyond any statutory authority he has as President.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump is calling 100% of the shots he is signing executive orders every day that apparently have the effect of law. He's not questioned. He's not thwarted. Every news story is just about Trump and his actions. I know Congress has always had a bad reputation as "do nothing" but this has become absolutely ludicrous. Are they doing effing anything? I mean, I guess we are a monarchy after all. everything becomes new again I guess.


Were you complaining when Obama said if Congress doesn't do what he wants, 'I have my pen and my phone'?
Or when Biden decided he would ignore laws and not enforce them or created new classes of work visas?


Hey now, we'll have none of that here.

Stick to the pre-approved narrative, or there will be severe consequences. You have been warned.


You are very stupid

The Constitution above all

Why do you think Trump didn't put his hand on the Bible and promise to uphold the Constitution. Because in his pea brain, he knew he wouldn't and even he like to hedge his bets on an afterlife, he's so old


We all know he made a deal with the devil. Otherwise that hamburger-swilling POS would be dead by now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump is calling 100% of the shots he is signing executive orders every day that apparently have the effect of law. He's not questioned. He's not thwarted. Every news story is just about Trump and his actions. I know Congress has always had a bad reputation as "do nothing" but this has become absolutely ludicrous. Are they doing effing anything? I mean, I guess we are a monarchy after all. everything becomes new again I guess.


Were you complaining when Obama said if Congress doesn't do what he wants, 'I have my pen and my phone'?
Or when Biden decided he would ignore laws and not enforce them or created new classes of work visas?


DP. If you were bothered by Obama and Biden executive orders, you should be bothered by Trump‘s as well. Below are the numbers of EO’s signed by each president.

- **Obama:** 276 total (147 in first term, 129 in second term)
- **Biden:** 162 total (single term)
- **Trump:** 329 total so far (220 in first term, 109 in second term as of April 05, 2025)
Source: grok

One key difference this time is that, under the Trump administration, his executive orders have more power because his administration is ignoring the courts and Congress is not opposing his EO’s. Obama and Biden were sued in the courts numerous times and when they lost, they abided by the decision. This president doesn’t care about the courts or Congress. He feels the executive branch is the most important.



Grok this, pal.

Biden’s Student Loan Boast: The Supreme Court ‘Didn’t Stop Me’

The President ignores the law again as he forgives more student debt. The total is now $138 billion and counting.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-biden-student-debt-forgiveness-supreme-court-0c5204fe


Grok this you moron.

"In June 2023, the Supreme Court ruled 6-3 in Biden v. Nebraska that Biden's initial plan to forgive up to $20,000 in federal student loan debt for millions of borrowers, costing an estimated $400 billion, exceeded his executive authority under the HEROES Act of 2003. The Court held that such a significant action required explicit congressional approval, striking down the broad forgiveness program before any debt was canceled.
Following this decision, Biden complied with the ruling by not implementing that specific plan. Instead, his administration pivoted to alternative approaches, using existing legal authorities to cancel smaller amounts of student debt for specific groups. Since the ruling, the administration has forgiven over $175 billion in student loans for nearly 5 million borrowers through programs like Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF), income-driven repayment (IDR) adjustments, and relief for borrowers defrauded by for-profit colleges. These efforts relied on pre-existing statutory mechanisms, not the HEROES Act plan the Court rejected."



Yup.

I just luv that some moron is all up in arms about student loan forgiveness while Trump dismantles our government. Priorities!
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