Stop the Zoning Change That Could Destroy Our Communities!

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh no how dare we let landowners use the land they bought and paid for the way they want!

My god, what if they do something crazy like build tall buildings full of housing in an area that has a massive housing shortage?!


Oh how dare we RE agents lie to buyers about the character of the neighborhood and zoning to increase demand and line our pockets?

Oh how dare we developers lie to communities when we apply for permits, rarely, if ever, bringing to life the rosy vision we present when asking for exemptions and almost always creating more difficult conditions during construction than promised?

Oh how dare we both work behind the scenes with county and state authorities to change the rules to our financial favor, with limited public view and input, never allowing for mitigation of the negative impacts borne by residents to be attached as a condition?

Oh how dare we elected and appointed representatives of those residents court all of this to gain campaign contributions and indirect emolument through family/friends, investments and business associates?

And, more to the point, how dare residents, whose lives would be considerably disrupted from the effects of the above either in staying or leaving, object when there are alternate and less disruptive means available to society to achieve the noble ends bandied about as justification for it all?


How dare some private company (homebuilders) make a profit? You do understand that some "evil developer" built your house and *GASP* made money doing so?

You NIMBYs are ridiculous.


There already is public input, you NIMBY. It's called elections. What you want is special treatment. Well get over it, you get none.


By your election logic, there's never anything to object about from any elected official within their purview while in office, and we shouldn't make our opinions known

Just because we're largely a capitalist society and a developer made a profit by buiding a home under a particular zoning regime in the past doesn't mean that any new zoning regime encouraging profit is fine.


Oh you just know PP is having a fit every day about things the Trump administration is doing. They are part of the resistance! Far left people are the biggest hypocrites out there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh no how dare we let landowners use the land they bought and paid for the way they want!

My god, what if they do something crazy like build tall buildings full of housing in an area that has a massive housing shortage?!


Oh how dare we RE agents lie to buyers about the character of the neighborhood and zoning to increase demand and line our pockets?

Oh how dare we developers lie to communities when we apply for permits, rarely, if ever, bringing to life the rosy vision we present when asking for exemptions and almost always creating more difficult conditions during construction than promised?

Oh how dare we both work behind the scenes with county and state authorities to change the rules to our financial favor, with limited public view and input, never allowing for mitigation of the negative impacts borne by residents to be attached as a condition?

Oh how dare we elected and appointed representatives of those residents court all of this to gain campaign contributions and indirect emolument through family/friends, investments and business associates?

And, more to the point, how dare residents, whose lives would be considerably disrupted from the effects of the above either in staying or leaving, object when there are alternate and less disruptive means available to society to achieve the noble ends bandied about as justification for it all?


How dare some private company (homebuilders) make a profit? You do understand that some "evil developer" built your house and *GASP* made money doing so?

You NIMBYs are ridiculous.


There already is public input, you NIMBY. It's called elections. What you want is special treatment. Well get over it, you get none.


Well, I guess that we should just sit back and enjoy trumps work. He was elected.

*shrug*
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Oh no how dare we let landowners use the land they bought and paid for the way they want!

My god, what if they do something crazy like build tall buildings full of housing in an area that has a massive housing shortage?!


Exactly, it’s ridiculous that I can’t open a unregulated zip line attraction in my yard.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need more housing.


How about you volunteer your backyard? Or maybe a room in your house? Go on, live your values.


There are literally bills in the senate to allow ADUs and granny flats, genius. Do you even know what you are talking about?


Do you even know the difference between those and a 4 story apartment building whose main access point would be through a daycare parking lot onto an already congested road, along with an emergency access road that would cut right between two yards? Go ahead and put an ADU on your own property and leave the rest of us the hell alone.


The YIMBYs are selfish little pigs that care not one bit about you or anyone else. Well, except all of the people that doesn’t live in the area. The hypothetical people are more important than residents, I guess.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's really easy to say you support affordable housing in the abstract. It's quite another thing to support it quite literally going in your backyard. I bet very few YIMBYs actually put their money where their mouth is. There is a reason your policies are deeply unpopular, and you know it.

Fairfax County will continue to circle the drain if residents figure out that developers can come in and put high density housing into any old single family neighborhood without any regard for the affected community.

I hope people living near struggling churches are paying attention. If passed, Senate Bill 1178 says that churches wouldn't even need to apply for rezoning to build high density housing on their property.


Um, well, YIMBYs support more housing, which will decrease demand in certain areas, which will curtail rent growth.

How do your anti-housing policies make rent cheaper, exactly?

Oh, that's right. They don't.


Is it my job to make rent cheaper in my neighborhood?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh no how dare we let landowners use the land they bought and paid for the way they want!

My god, what if they do something crazy like build tall buildings full of housing in an area that has a massive housing shortage?!


Oh how dare we RE agents lie to buyers about the character of the neighborhood and zoning to increase demand and line our pockets?

Oh how dare we developers lie to communities when we apply for permits, rarely, if ever, bringing to life the rosy vision we present when asking for exemptions and almost always creating more difficult conditions during construction than promised?

Oh how dare we both work behind the scenes with county and state authorities to change the rules to our financial favor, with limited public view and input, never allowing for mitigation of the negative impacts borne by residents to be attached as a condition?

Oh how dare we elected and appointed representatives of those residents court all of this to gain campaign contributions and indirect emolument through family/friends, investments and business associates?

And, more to the point, how dare residents, whose lives would be considerably disrupted from the effects of the above either in staying or leaving, object when there are alternate and less disruptive means available to society to achieve the noble ends bandied about as justification for it all?


How dare some private company (homebuilders) make a profit? You do understand that some "evil developer" built your house and *GASP* made money doing so?

You NIMBYs are ridiculous.


There already is public input, you NIMBY. It's called elections. What you want is special treatment. Well get over it, you get none.


Well, I guess that we should just sit back and enjoy trumps work. He was elected.

*shrug*


Trump is on your NIMBY side, numbskull.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's really easy to say you support affordable housing in the abstract. It's quite another thing to support it quite literally going in your backyard. I bet very few YIMBYs actually put their money where their mouth is. There is a reason your policies are deeply unpopular, and you know it.

Fairfax County will continue to circle the drain if residents figure out that developers can come in and put high density housing into any old single family neighborhood without any regard for the affected community.

I hope people living near struggling churches are paying attention. If passed, Senate Bill 1178 says that churches wouldn't even need to apply for rezoning to build high density housing on their property.


Um, well, YIMBYs support more housing, which will decrease demand in certain areas, which will curtail rent growth.

How do your anti-housing policies make rent cheaper, exactly?

Oh, that's right. They don't.


Is it my job to make rent cheaper in my neighborhood?


"F you, I got mine!"

How neighborly of you. No wonder Trump won.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh no how dare we let landowners use the land they bought and paid for the way they want!

My god, what if they do something crazy like build tall buildings full of housing in an area that has a massive housing shortage?!


Oh how dare we RE agents lie to buyers about the character of the neighborhood and zoning to increase demand and line our pockets?

Oh how dare we developers lie to communities when we apply for permits, rarely, if ever, bringing to life the rosy vision we present when asking for exemptions and almost always creating more difficult conditions during construction than promised?

Oh how dare we both work behind the scenes with county and state authorities to change the rules to our financial favor, with limited public view and input, never allowing for mitigation of the negative impacts borne by residents to be attached as a condition?

Oh how dare we elected and appointed representatives of those residents court all of this to gain campaign contributions and indirect emolument through family/friends, investments and business associates?

And, more to the point, how dare residents, whose lives would be considerably disrupted from the effects of the above either in staying or leaving, object when there are alternate and less disruptive means available to society to achieve the noble ends bandied about as justification for it all?


How dare some private company (homebuilders) make a profit? You do understand that some "evil developer" built your house and *GASP* made money doing so?

You NIMBYs are ridiculous.


There already is public input, you NIMBY. It's called elections. What you want is special treatment. Well get over it, you get none.


By your election logic, there's never anything to object about from any elected official within their purview while in office, and we shouldn't make our opinions known

Just because we're largely a capitalist society and a developer made a profit by buiding a home under a particular zoning regime in the past doesn't mean that any new zoning regime encouraging profit is fine.


In other others, you are a hypocrite. Got it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need more housing.


How about you volunteer your backyard? Or maybe a room in your house? Go on, live your values.


There are literally bills in the senate to allow ADUs and granny flats, genius. Do you even know what you are talking about?


Do you even know the difference between those and a 4 story apartment building whose main access point would be through a daycare parking lot onto an already congested road, along with an emergency access road that would cut right between two yards? Go ahead and put an ADU on your own property and leave the rest of us the hell alone.


You poor NIMBYs really have no idea how outnumbered you really are. So sad that you resort to these silly arguments. Very entertaining, though!

If you don't like the laws that say a building can be built, and what roads need to be built, then vote differently. The community has already spoken, you lost. Get over it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh no how dare we let landowners use the land they bought and paid for the way they want!

My god, what if they do something crazy like build tall buildings full of housing in an area that has a massive housing shortage?!


Oh how dare we RE agents lie to buyers about the character of the neighborhood and zoning to increase demand and line our pockets?

Oh how dare we developers lie to communities when we apply for permits, rarely, if ever, bringing to life the rosy vision we present when asking for exemptions and almost always creating more difficult conditions during construction than promised?

Oh how dare we both work behind the scenes with county and state authorities to change the rules to our financial favor, with limited public view and input, never allowing for mitigation of the negative impacts borne by residents to be attached as a condition?

Oh how dare we elected and appointed representatives of those residents court all of this to gain campaign contributions and indirect emolument through family/friends, investments and business associates?

And, more to the point, how dare residents, whose lives would be considerably disrupted from the effects of the above either in staying or leaving, object when there are alternate and less disruptive means available to society to achieve the noble ends bandied about as justification for it all?


How dare some private company (homebuilders) make a profit? You do understand that some "evil developer" built your house and *GASP* made money doing so?

You NIMBYs are ridiculous.


There already is public input, you NIMBY. It's called elections. What you want is special treatment. Well get over it, you get none.


By your election logic, there's never anything to object about from any elected official within their purview while in office, and we shouldn't make our opinions known

Just because we're largely a capitalist society and a developer made a profit by buiding a home under a particular zoning regime in the past doesn't mean that any new zoning regime encouraging profit is fine.


In other others, you are a hypocrite. Got it.


Sure. Whatever soothes your conscience from the effective taking to line your pocket without the consent of those from whom you take.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need more housing.


How about you volunteer your backyard? Or maybe a room in your house? Go on, live your values.


There are literally bills in the senate to allow ADUs and granny flats, genius. Do you even know what you are talking about?


Do you even know the difference between those and a 4 story apartment building whose main access point would be through a daycare parking lot onto an already congested road, along with an emergency access road that would cut right between two yards? Go ahead and put an ADU on your own property and leave the rest of us the hell alone.


I looked at the map. They literally are planning an egress between two houses on a cul de sac. And, PP is correct about the main access point through a daycare parking lot. We are talking about 250 units.

This does not affect me. I do not live in Franklin Farm, though I do live nearby. This is not the right place for this plan. But, how would you like a new road going between two rather close houses. These are not acred estates. They are suburban homes.

It will also involve clearning out a heavily treed area which likely houses wildlife.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We need more housing.


This isn't actually true. When people say this, usually they mean that they want a SFH and can't afford one. But there are actually more than enough apartments.

The big problem is that there is lots of price-fixing for apartments, so no matter how many apartments get built, the prices never come down.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need more housing.


How about you volunteer your backyard? Or maybe a room in your house? Go on, live your values.


There are literally bills in the senate to allow ADUs and granny flats, genius. Do you even know what you are talking about?


These bills failed because Virginia residents don’t want Richmond telling them how they should run their communities.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's really easy to say you support affordable housing in the abstract. It's quite another thing to support it quite literally going in your backyard. I bet very few YIMBYs actually put their money where their mouth is. There is a reason your policies are deeply unpopular, and you know it.

Fairfax County will continue to circle the drain if residents figure out that developers can come in and put high density housing into any old single family neighborhood without any regard for the affected community.

I hope people living near struggling churches are paying attention. If passed, Senate Bill 1178 says that churches wouldn't even need to apply for rezoning to build high density housing on their property.


Um, well, YIMBYs support more housing, which will decrease demand in certain areas, which will curtail rent growth.

How do your anti-housing policies make rent cheaper, exactly?

Oh, that's right. They don't.


You don’t care about school overcrowding, traffic, noise pollution or the environment, flooding. The only thing you care about is boosting developers profits and ruining neighborhoods. Qualify of life matters and your policies prioritize developers profits over everything else. People want to live in a community with a healthy environment and have a government that protects their well-being
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's really easy to say you support affordable housing in the abstract. It's quite another thing to support it quite literally going in your backyard. I bet very few YIMBYs actually put their money where their mouth is. There is a reason your policies are deeply unpopular, and you know it.

Fairfax County will continue to circle the drain if residents figure out that developers can come in and put high density housing into any old single family neighborhood without any regard for the affected community.

I hope people living near struggling churches are paying attention. If passed, Senate Bill 1178 says that churches wouldn't even need to apply for rezoning to build high density housing on their property.


Um, well, YIMBYs support more housing, which will decrease demand in certain areas, which will curtail rent growth.

How do your anti-housing policies make rent cheaper, exactly?

Oh, that's right. They don't.


Is it my job to make rent cheaper in my neighborhood?


"F you, I got mine!"

How neighborly of you. No wonder Trump won.


It’s not neighborly to cut down a bunch of trees and pave over 8 acres of land which will cause flooding for the adjacent homes.
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