What do religious people have in common with atheists?

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Anonymous wrote:Atheism is simply another form of religious faith. Faith in nothing is still faith in something.

It is a type of faith, but not a religious one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only faith I have is that most believers are ignorant, unreasonable, or both.

Believers may be very intelligent, but somehow still believe that they are going to live forever with God in heaven. It's not intelligence that stands in their way. Maybe it's childhood indoctrination and the fact that it seems like a majority of people believe in God. (Luckily, that is changing)

I haven't gotten more intelligent since I discarded religion. I studied it very carefully before becoming a non-believer.

+1. Due to something that happened to one of my children in the name of religion, I both started questioning my own faith (subsequently completely deconstructed it), and then needed to understand what had happened to my child. The psychology of indoctrination into any cult (yes most religions fit the criteria of cults ) is both fascinating and horrifying due to how it plays upon our human nature. I now consider childhood indoctrination to be a form of psychological abuse . Not a popular opinion I’m sure but after thousands of hours of reading about and listening to former religious people, my point of view is very well supported

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only faith I have is that most believers are ignorant, unreasonable, or both.

Believers may be very intelligent, but somehow still believe that they are going to live forever with God in heaven. It's not intelligence that stands in their way. Maybe it's childhood indoctrination and the fact that it seems like a majority of people believe in God. (Luckily, that is changing)

I haven't gotten more intelligent since I discarded religion. I studied it very carefully before becoming a non-believer.

+1. Due to something that happened to one of my children in the name of religion, I both started questioning my own faith (subsequently completely deconstructed it), and then needed to understand what had happened to my child. The psychology of indoctrination into any cult (yes most religions fit the criteria of cults ) is both fascinating and horrifying due to how it plays upon our human nature. I now consider childhood indoctrination to be a form of psychological abuse . Not a popular opinion I’m sure but after thousands of hours of reading about and listening to former religious people, my point of view is very well supported

Fascinating -- and yes, I do as well consider childhood indoctrination to be a form of psychological abuse. I think most kids (including me) accept what their parents tell them and only later maybe question it. But some people never buy it, even as small children. I've met a few.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Atheism is simply another form of religious faith. Faith in nothing is still faith in something.

It is a type of faith, but not a religious one.

This is a stupid statement. Atheism is not "faith in nothing". It is simply the lack of belief in a god or gods.

Do you have "faith" there are no leprechauns?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Atheism is simply another form of religious faith. Faith in nothing is still faith in something.

It is a type of faith, but not a religious one.

This is a stupid statement. Atheism is not "faith in nothing". It is simply the lack of belief in a god or gods.

Do you have "faith" there are no leprechauns?

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[Anonymous]

I'd say like most people, it depends on the individual. My best friend is Catholic and I'm an atheist. I could problem write a 20 page essay on the things we have in common, because we've been friends since 4th grade. We just don't share one thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'd say like most people, it depends on the individual. My best friend is Catholic and I'm an atheist. I could problem write a 20 page essay on the things we have in common, because we've been friends since 4th grade. We just don't share one thing.

Interesting - Do you talk about your differing views on religion? Also, Have you been an atheist since childhood? If you went through a change in your religious views, did you discuss it with your best friend?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only faith I have is that most believers are ignorant, unreasonable, or both.

Believers may be very intelligent, but somehow still believe that they are going to live forever with God in heaven. It's not intelligence that stands in their way. Maybe it's childhood indoctrination and the fact that it seems like a majority of people believe in God. (Luckily, that is changing)

I haven't gotten more intelligent since I discarded religion. I studied it very carefully before becoming a non-believer.

+1. Due to something that happened to one of my children in the name of religion, I both started questioning my own faith (subsequently completely deconstructed it), and then needed to understand what had happened to my child. The psychology of indoctrination into any cult (yes most religions fit the criteria of cults ) is both fascinating and horrifying due to how it plays upon our human nature. I now consider childhood indoctrination to be a form of psychological abuse . Not a popular opinion I’m sure but after thousands of hours of reading about and listening to former religious people, my point of view is very well supported

Fascinating -- and yes, I do as well consider childhood indoctrination to be a form of psychological abuse. I think most kids (including me) accept what their parents tell them and only later maybe question it. But some people never buy it, even as small children. I've met a few.

pp here - I'll add that I don't think my parents meant to abuse me in any way regarding religious indoctrination. They were just doing what everyone else did - teaching their children religion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'd say like most people, it depends on the individual. My best friend is Catholic and I'm an atheist. I could problem write a 20 page essay on the things we have in common, because we've been friends since 4th grade. We just don't share one thing.

Interesting - Do you talk about your differing views on religion? Also, Have you been an atheist since childhood? If you went through a change in your religious views, did you discuss it with your best friend?

We have talked about how she reconciled the serious issues in the Catholic church and it's stance on women with her other beliefs. We've kept it respectful. I attended her wedding and kids' baptisms so it's not like I won't darken the door of a church.

My Dad's ex Catholic so I spent time sitting quietly in mass with my aunts as a kid and went to a protestant church with my mom. I even was a choir member in high school and college. I grew up around religion, I just never felt a connection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Atheism is simply another form of religious faith. Faith in nothing is still faith in something.

It is a type of faith, but not a religious one.

This is a stupid statement. Atheism is not "faith in nothing". It is simply the lack of belief in a god or gods.

Do you have "faith" there are no leprechauns?

Do you actually consider the whole response before posting? Your statement is the stupid one.

I'm this PP. My post was in response to the included quote section where that person claimed atheism is a form of religious faith. It is not religious based.

According to Merriam-Webster, religious = relating to or manifesting faithful devotion to an acknowledged ultimate reality or deity.

Now, also using Merriam-Webster, faith = something that is believed especially with strong conviction.

Well, I have a strong conviction that my knowledge and understanding of history, theology, and science leads me to not believe in deities. It is not faith in nothing or in religion. It is faith in my understanding. I have strong convictions that atheism is true. Therefore, it is a faith in something, just not one related to acknowledging an ultimate reality or deity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Atheism is simply another form of religious faith. Faith in nothing is still faith in something.

It is a type of faith, but not a religious one.

This is a stupid statement. Atheism is not "faith in nothing". It is simply the lack of belief in a god or gods.

Do you have "faith" there are no leprechauns?

Do you actually consider the whole response before posting? Your statement is the stupid one.

I'm this PP. My post was in response to the included quote section where that person claimed atheism is a form of religious faith. It is not religious based.

According to Merriam-Webster, religious = relating to or manifesting faithful devotion to an acknowledged ultimate reality or deity.

Now, also using Merriam-Webster, faith = something that is believed especially with strong conviction.

Well, I have a strong conviction that my knowledge and understanding of history, theology, and science leads me to not believe in deities. It is not faith in nothing or in religion. It is faith in my understanding. I have strong convictions that atheism is true. Therefore, it is a faith in something, just not one related to acknowledging an ultimate reality or deity.

No, it remains a stupid statement, sorry.

Your own definition:

Now, also using Merriam-Webster, faith = something that is believed especially with strong conviction.

Atheism is not a belief. It is a lack of a belief. If you can’t understanding that critical distinction, all other points are fruit of a poisoned tree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Atheism is simply another form of religious faith. Faith in nothing is still faith in something.

It is a type of faith, but not a religious one.

This is a stupid statement. Atheism is not "faith in nothing". It is simply the lack of belief in a god or gods.

Do you have "faith" there are no leprechauns?

Do you actually consider the whole response before posting? Your statement is the stupid one.

I'm this PP. My post was in response to the included quote section where that person claimed atheism is a form of religious faith. It is not religious based.

According to Merriam-Webster, religious = relating to or manifesting faithful devotion to an acknowledged ultimate reality or deity.

Now, also using Merriam-Webster, faith = something that is believed especially with strong conviction.

Well, I have a strong conviction that my knowledge and understanding of history, theology, and science leads me to not believe in deities. It is not faith in nothing or in religion. It is faith in my understanding. I have strong convictions that atheism is true. Therefore, it is a faith in something, just not one related to acknowledging an ultimate reality or deity.

No, it remains a stupid statement, sorry.

Your own definition:

Now, also using Merriam-Webster, faith = something that is believed especially with strong conviction.

Atheism is not a belief. It is a lack of a belief. If you can’t understanding that critical distinction, all other points are fruit of a poisoned tree.

You really don't consider the whole context. You conveniently left off the last section that explicitly provided the rationale.

Try working on your reading comprehension.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Atheism is simply another form of religious faith. Faith in nothing is still faith in something.

It is a type of faith, but not a religious one.

This is a stupid statement. Atheism is not "faith in nothing". It is simply the lack of belief in a god or gods.

Do you have "faith" there are no leprechauns?

Do you actually consider the whole response before posting? Your statement is the stupid one.

I'm this PP. My post was in response to the included quote section where that person claimed atheism is a form of religious faith. It is not religious based.

According to Merriam-Webster, religious = relating to or manifesting faithful devotion to an acknowledged ultimate reality or deity.

Now, also using Merriam-Webster, faith = something that is believed especially with strong conviction.

Well, I have a strong conviction that my knowledge and understanding of history, theology, and science leads me to not believe in deities. It is not faith in nothing or in religion. It is faith in my understanding. I have strong convictions that atheism is true. Therefore, it is a faith in something, just not one related to acknowledging an ultimate reality or deity.

No, it remains a stupid statement, sorry.

Your own definition:

Now, also using Merriam-Webster, faith = something that is believed especially with strong conviction.

Atheism is not a belief. It is a lack of a belief. If you can’t understanding that critical distinction, all other points are fruit of a poisoned tree.

You really don't consider the whole context. You conveniently left off the last section that explicitly provided the rationale.

Try working on your reading comprehension.

The last section doesn't matter, hence "all other points are fruit of a poisoned tree".

Atheism is not a belief. It is a lack of a belief.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Atheism is simply another form of religious faith. Faith in nothing is still faith in something.

It is a type of faith, but not a religious one.

This is a stupid statement. Atheism is not "faith in nothing". It is simply the lack of belief in a god or gods.

Do you have "faith" there are no leprechauns?

Do you actually consider the whole response before posting? Your statement is the stupid one.

I'm this PP. My post was in response to the included quote section where that person claimed atheism is a form of religious faith. It is not religious based.

According to Merriam-Webster, religious = relating to or manifesting faithful devotion to an acknowledged ultimate reality or deity.

Now, also using Merriam-Webster, faith = something that is believed especially with strong conviction.

Well, I have a strong conviction that my knowledge and understanding of history, theology, and science leads me to not believe in deities. It is not faith in nothing or in religion. It is faith in my understanding. I have strong convictions that atheism is true. Therefore, it is a faith in something, just not one related to acknowledging an ultimate reality or deity.

No, it remains a stupid statement, sorry.

Your own definition:

Now, also using Merriam-Webster, faith = something that is believed especially with strong conviction.

Atheism is not a belief. It is a lack of a belief. If you can’t understanding that critical distinction, all other points are fruit of a poisoned tree.

You really don't consider the whole context. You conveniently left off the last section that explicitly provided the rationale.

Try working on your reading comprehension.

DP -all arguments aside, it would be better in my opinion if you just stopped calling atheism a belief.