What news out,ets are considered unbiased, particularly curious to hear from MAGA

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:AP and BBC


X is a total $hit show of bots, trolls, and disinformation. Americans have proven they are not smart enough to sort through it for real news. Plus, no one should be supporting Musk. Get off X.

Sounds.... authoritarian.
Democracy is dangerous in that regard, as it depends on an intelligent populace. So are you against democracy?

Sounds…like an observation and a fact. They just put a twice impeached criminal in office who willingly delivered a Cold War victory to an actual authoritarian.

Playing devil's advocate, I have no side here, just curious. What do you propose then?

You say the public is too dumb to decide for themselves, so then elections are off the table. What form of government would you propose, or would you scrap all forms of government and try a peaceful anarchy situation?

What an illogical leap.

I propose that people not spend time on sites like X that incorrectly equate moderation with censorship, that they educate themselves about the IRA and others like it, that they realize they need to follow the rule “don’t believe everything you read on the internet”, and that they be responsible adults about the media they consume, understanding that the internet is full of absolute BS, and even people who study propaganda and disinformation sometimes get fooled - that’s how careful you have to be.

Read Indivisible Rulers, Network Propaganda, Broken Code or watch The Social Dilemma, The Great Hack, The Anti-Social Network, Q Into the Storm or whatever- there are tons of books, documentaries and investigative journalism articles on it all.

Become media literate. Be a responsible citizen. So far, Americans appear to be doing a pretty awful job at this - too dumb and ignorant for the privilege of the internet and it’s being used against them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP and BBC


X is a total $hit show of bots, trolls, and disinformation. Americans have proven they are not smart enough to sort through it for real news. Plus, no one should be supporting Musk. Get off X.

Sounds.... authoritarian.
Democracy is dangerous in that regard, as it depends on an intelligent populace. So are you against democracy?

Sounds…like an observation and a fact. They just put a twice impeached criminal in office who willingly delivered a Cold War victory to an actual authoritarian.

Playing devil's advocate, I have no side here, just curious. What do you propose then?

You say the public is too dumb to decide for themselves, so then elections are off the table. What form of government would you propose, or would you scrap all forms of government and try a peaceful anarchy situation?

What an illogical leap.

I propose that people not spend time on sites like X that incorrectly equate moderation with censorship, that they educate themselves about the IRA and others like it, that they realize they need to follow the rule “don’t believe everything you read on the internet”, and that they be responsible adults about the media they consume, understanding that the internet is full of absolute BS, and even people who study propaganda and disinformation sometimes get fooled - that’s how careful you have to be.

Read Indivisible Rulers, Network Propaganda, Broken Code or watch The Social Dilemma, The Great Hack, The Anti-Social Network, Q Into the Storm or whatever- there are tons of books, documentaries and investigative journalism articles on it all.

Become media literate. Be a responsible citizen. So far, Americans appear to be doing a pretty awful job at this - too dumb and ignorant for the privilege of the internet and it’s being used against them.

Everything is "the internet" now. I know older people have trouble understanding this, but everything is online. Even appliances now.
The book suggestions are horrible and biased.
Bolded parts are true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP and BBC


X is a total $hit show of bots, trolls, and disinformation. Americans have proven they are not smart enough to sort through it for real news. Plus, no one should be supporting Musk. Get off X.

Sounds.... authoritarian.
Democracy is dangerous in that regard, as it depends on an intelligent populace. So are you against democracy?

Sounds…like an observation and a fact. They just put a twice impeached criminal in office who willingly delivered a Cold War victory to an actual authoritarian.

Playing devil's advocate, I have no side here, just curious. What do you propose then?

You say the public is too dumb to decide for themselves, so then elections are off the table. What form of government would you propose, or would you scrap all forms of government and try a peaceful anarchy situation?

What an illogical leap.

I propose that people not spend time on sites like X that incorrectly equate moderation with censorship, that they educate themselves about the IRA and others like it, that they realize they need to follow the rule “don’t believe everything you read on the internet”, and that they be responsible adults about the media they consume, understanding that the internet is full of absolute BS, and even people who study propaganda and disinformation sometimes get fooled - that’s how careful you have to be.

Read Indivisible Rulers, Network Propaganda, Broken Code or watch The Social Dilemma, The Great Hack, The Anti-Social Network, Q Into the Storm or whatever- there are tons of books, documentaries and investigative journalism articles on it all.

Become media literate. Be a responsible citizen. So far, Americans appear to be doing a pretty awful job at this - too dumb and ignorant for the privilege of the internet and it’s being used against them.

Everything is "the internet" now. I know older people have trouble understanding this, but everything is online. Even appliances now.
The book suggestions are horrible and biased.
Bolded parts are true.

But X isn’t a source for news like say a newspaper. X is just a collection of random people posting a snippet of information and people either loving it or hating it. That’s the problem. You actually need facts and the full story not a screenshot and a few catchy words. It’s nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP and BBC


X is a total $hit show of bots, trolls, and disinformation. Americans have proven they are not smart enough to sort through it for real news. Plus, no one should be supporting Musk. Get off X.

Sounds.... authoritarian.
Democracy is dangerous in that regard, as it depends on an intelligent populace. So are you against democracy?

Sounds…like an observation and a fact. They just put a twice impeached criminal in office who willingly delivered a Cold War victory to an actual authoritarian.

Playing devil's advocate, I have no side here, just curious. What do you propose then?

You say the public is too dumb to decide for themselves, so then elections are off the table. What form of government would you propose, or would you scrap all forms of government and try a peaceful anarchy situation?

What an illogical leap.

I propose that people not spend time on sites like X that incorrectly equate moderation with censorship, that they educate themselves about the IRA and others like it, that they realize they need to follow the rule “don’t believe everything you read on the internet”, and that they be responsible adults about the media they consume, understanding that the internet is full of absolute BS, and even people who study propaganda and disinformation sometimes get fooled - that’s how careful you have to be.

Read Indivisible Rulers, Network Propaganda, Broken Code or watch The Social Dilemma, The Great Hack, The Anti-Social Network, Q Into the Storm or whatever- there are tons of books, documentaries and investigative journalism articles on it all.

Become media literate. Be a responsible citizen. So far, Americans appear to be doing a pretty awful job at this - too dumb and ignorant for the privilege of the internet and it’s being used against them.

Everything is "the internet" now. I know older people have trouble understanding this, but everything is online. Even appliances now.
The book suggestions are horrible and biased.
Bolded parts are true.

But X isn’t a source for news like say a newspaper. X is just a collection of random people posting a snippet of information and people either loving it or hating it. That’s the problem. You actually need facts and the full story not a screenshot and a few catchy words. It’s nonsense.

News reporters get their info from X. Not the other way around. The reporters have to filter through the info the same as the public.

Transparency is good. What you are proposing is major 1st Amendment restrictions.

[Anonymous]

Shouldn’t some sort of fact checking function be necessary to qualify as a ‘news source’? If a site simply allows the posting of opinions then that serves a purpose but doesn’t qualify as news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Shouldn’t some sort of fact checking function be necessary to qualify as a ‘news source’? If a site simply allows the posting of opinions then that serves a purpose but doesn’t qualify as news.

This is classic Orwellian and was amusing to watch be implements a few years ago in an attempt to control certain narratives by political entities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shouldn’t some sort of fact checking function be necessary to qualify as a ‘news source’? If a site simply allows the posting of opinions then that serves a purpose but doesn’t qualify as news.

This is classic Orwellian and was amusing to watch be implements a few years ago in an attempt to control certain narratives by political entities.

It’s not Orwellian. It’s journalism 101. You don’t report a fact unless you corroborate with multiple sources.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP and BBC


X is a total $hit show of bots, trolls, and disinformation. Americans have proven they are not smart enough to sort through it for real news. Plus, no one should be supporting Musk. Get off X.

Sounds.... authoritarian.
Democracy is dangerous in that regard, as it depends on an intelligent populace. So are you against democracy?

Sounds…like an observation and a fact. They just put a twice impeached criminal in office who willingly delivered a Cold War victory to an actual authoritarian.

Playing devil's advocate, I have no side here, just curious. What do you propose then?

You say the public is too dumb to decide for themselves, so then elections are off the table. What form of government would you propose, or would you scrap all forms of government and try a peaceful anarchy situation?

What an illogical leap.

I propose that people not spend time on sites like X that incorrectly equate moderation with censorship, that they educate themselves about the IRA and others like it, that they realize they need to follow the rule “don’t believe everything you read on the internet”, and that they be responsible adults about the media they consume, understanding that the internet is full of absolute BS, and even people who study propaganda and disinformation sometimes get fooled - that’s how careful you have to be.

Read Indivisible Rulers, Network Propaganda, Broken Code or watch The Social Dilemma, The Great Hack, The Anti-Social Network, Q Into the Storm or whatever- there are tons of books, documentaries and investigative journalism articles on it all.

Become media literate. Be a responsible citizen. So far, Americans appear to be doing a pretty awful job at this - too dumb and ignorant for the privilege of the internet and it’s being used against them.

Everything is "the internet" now. I know older people have trouble understanding this, but everything is online. Even appliances now.
The book suggestions are horrible and biased.
Bolded parts are true.

These books are written by an award winning tech reporter for the Wall Street Journal, a research manager at the Stanford Internet Observatory, a Harvard Law professor who teaches and is the co-director of the Berkman Klein Center for Internet and Society at Harvard, the other research director there, and a fellow there.

Or read the news:

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-were-sharing-3-million-russian-troll-tweets/


https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/02/russia-troll-farm/553616/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/anti-vax-movement-russian-trolls-fueled-anti-vaccination-debate-in-us-by-spreading-misinformation-twitter-study/

The articles are endless. Pick your source.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Shouldn’t some sort of fact checking function be necessary to qualify as a ‘news source’? If a site simply allows the posting of opinions then that serves a purpose but doesn’t qualify as news.

We need some kind of non-partisan professional ethics board. Because right now anyone can call themselves a journalist, get a website, and spout whatever BS they want. There needs to be a clear difference between news and fictional entertainment because it’s causing real harm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shouldn’t some sort of fact checking function be necessary to qualify as a ‘news source’? If a site simply allows the posting of opinions then that serves a purpose but doesn’t qualify as news.

This is classic Orwellian and was amusing to watch be implements a few years ago in an attempt to control certain narratives by political entities.

It’s not Orwellian. It’s journalism 101. You don’t report a fact unless you corroborate with multiple sources.

That is correct. However that is not what the "fact checkers" were. I think you know this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP and BBC


X is a total $hit show of bots, trolls, and disinformation. Americans have proven they are not smart enough to sort through it for real news. Plus, no one should be supporting Musk. Get off X.

Sounds.... authoritarian.
Democracy is dangerous in that regard, as it depends on an intelligent populace. So are you against democracy?

Sounds…like an observation and a fact. They just put a twice impeached criminal in office who willingly delivered a Cold War victory to an actual authoritarian.

Playing devil's advocate, I have no side here, just curious. What do you propose then?

You say the public is too dumb to decide for themselves, so then elections are off the table. What form of government would you propose, or would you scrap all forms of government and try a peaceful anarchy situation?

What an illogical leap.

I propose that people not spend time on sites like X that incorrectly equate moderation with censorship, that they educate themselves about the IRA and others like it, that they realize they need to follow the rule “don’t believe everything you read on the internet”, and that they be responsible adults about the media they consume, understanding that the internet is full of absolute BS, and even people who study propaganda and disinformation sometimes get fooled - that’s how careful you have to be.

Read Indivisible Rulers, Network Propaganda, Broken Code or watch The Social Dilemma, The Great Hack, The Anti-Social Network, Q Into the Storm or whatever- there are tons of books, documentaries and investigative journalism articles on it all.

Become media literate. Be a responsible citizen. So far, Americans appear to be doing a pretty awful job at this - too dumb and ignorant for the privilege of the internet and it’s being used against them.

Everything is "the internet" now. I know older people have trouble understanding this, but everything is online. Even appliances now.
The book suggestions are horrible and biased.
Bolded parts are true.

These books are written by an award winning tech reporter for the Wall Street Journal, a research manager at the Stanford Internet Observatory, a Harvard Law professor who teaches and is the co-director of the Berkman Klein Center for Internet and Society at Harvard, the other research director there, and a fellow there.

Or read the news:

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-were-sharing-3-million-russian-troll-tweets/


https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/02/russia-troll-farm/553616/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/anti-vax-movement-russian-trolls-fueled-anti-vaccination-debate-in-us-by-spreading-misinformation-twitter-study/

The articles are endless. Pick your source.

Agree with bolded part. Let the reader decide, for good or bad. Freedom is scary. It leads to bad things. It also leads to good things. Such is the nature of freedom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP and BBC


X is a total $hit show of bots, trolls, and disinformation. Americans have proven they are not smart enough to sort through it for real news. Plus, no one should be supporting Musk. Get off X.

Sounds.... authoritarian.
Democracy is dangerous in that regard, as it depends on an intelligent populace. So are you against democracy?

Sounds…like an observation and a fact. They just put a twice impeached criminal in office who willingly delivered a Cold War victory to an actual authoritarian.

Playing devil's advocate, I have no side here, just curious. What do you propose then?

You say the public is too dumb to decide for themselves, so then elections are off the table. What form of government would you propose, or would you scrap all forms of government and try a peaceful anarchy situation?

What an illogical leap.

I propose that people not spend time on sites like X that incorrectly equate moderation with censorship, that they educate themselves about the IRA and others like it, that they realize they need to follow the rule “don’t believe everything you read on the internet”, and that they be responsible adults about the media they consume, understanding that the internet is full of absolute BS, and even people who study propaganda and disinformation sometimes get fooled - that’s how careful you have to be.

Read Indivisible Rulers, Network Propaganda, Broken Code or watch The Social Dilemma, The Great Hack, The Anti-Social Network, Q Into the Storm or whatever- there are tons of books, documentaries and investigative journalism articles on it all.

Become media literate. Be a responsible citizen. So far, Americans appear to be doing a pretty awful job at this - too dumb and ignorant for the privilege of the internet and it’s being used against them.

Everything is "the internet" now. I know older people have trouble understanding this, but everything is online. Even appliances now.
The book suggestions are horrible and biased.
Bolded parts are true.

These books are written by an award winning tech reporter for the Wall Street Journal, a research manager at the Stanford Internet Observatory, a Harvard Law professor who teaches and is the co-director of the Berkman Klein Center for Internet and Society at Harvard, the other research director there, and a fellow there.

Or read the news:

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-were-sharing-3-million-russian-troll-tweets/


https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/02/russia-troll-farm/553616/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/anti-vax-movement-russian-trolls-fueled-anti-vaccination-debate-in-us-by-spreading-misinformation-twitter-study/

The articles are endless. Pick your source.

Agree with bolded part. Let the reader decide, for good or bad. Freedom is scary. It leads to bad things. It also leads to good things. Such is the nature of freedom.

“I’m an American, it’s my God given right to be as stupid as I wanna be!”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP and BBC


X is a total $hit show of bots, trolls, and disinformation. Americans have proven they are not smart enough to sort through it for real news. Plus, no one should be supporting Musk. Get off X.

Sounds.... authoritarian.
Democracy is dangerous in that regard, as it depends on an intelligent populace. So are you against democracy?

Sounds…like an observation and a fact. They just put a twice impeached criminal in office who willingly delivered a Cold War victory to an actual authoritarian.

Playing devil's advocate, I have no side here, just curious. What do you propose then?

You say the public is too dumb to decide for themselves, so then elections are off the table. What form of government would you propose, or would you scrap all forms of government and try a peaceful anarchy situation?

What an illogical leap.

I propose that people not spend time on sites like X that incorrectly equate moderation with censorship, that they educate themselves about the IRA and others like it, that they realize they need to follow the rule “don’t believe everything you read on the internet”, and that they be responsible adults about the media they consume, understanding that the internet is full of absolute BS, and even people who study propaganda and disinformation sometimes get fooled - that’s how careful you have to be.

Read Indivisible Rulers, Network Propaganda, Broken Code or watch The Social Dilemma, The Great Hack, The Anti-Social Network, Q Into the Storm or whatever- there are tons of books, documentaries and investigative journalism articles on it all.

Become media literate. Be a responsible citizen. So far, Americans appear to be doing a pretty awful job at this - too dumb and ignorant for the privilege of the internet and it’s being used against them.

Everything is "the internet" now. I know older people have trouble understanding this, but everything is online. Even appliances now.
The book suggestions are horrible and biased.
Bolded parts are true.

These books are written by an award winning tech reporter for the Wall Street Journal, a research manager at the Stanford Internet Observatory, a Harvard Law professor who teaches and is the co-director of the Berkman Klein Center for Internet and Society at Harvard, the other research director there, and a fellow there.

Or read the news:

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-were-sharing-3-million-russian-troll-tweets/


https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/02/russia-troll-farm/553616/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/anti-vax-movement-russian-trolls-fueled-anti-vaccination-debate-in-us-by-spreading-misinformation-twitter-study/

The articles are endless. Pick your source.

Agree with bolded part. Let the reader decide, for good or bad. Freedom is scary. It leads to bad things. It also leads to good things. Such is the nature of freedom.

“I’m an American, it’s my God given right to be as stupid as I wanna be!”

Pretty much that. Same as any country that values freedom. Oddly enough, Americans tend to have one of the higher overall rates of intelligence, despite the outliers, of any other country except perhaps Japan, which is very homogenous in nature.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I am a moderate, pro-labor Democrat who knew Trump was going to win months ago, just to lay out my political leanings. I do not believe there are any unbiased or even trustworthy news sources. I consume a very wide array of media sources and reach conclusions from that. And I mean very, very wide: like Daily Wire on one end, Mother Jones on the other.

I 100% do not trust mainstream media like NYT, WaPo, BBC, etc.

I'm politically opposite of you, yet share all the same opinions and behaviors around media. There's hope for us yet!

I actually find I get along well with people I disagree with politically so long as they aren’t on the insane ends of the spectrum. I disagree on some policy issues with political opponents but I largely consider the far left and far right equally dangerous and equally looney.

In any event I trust no media any more. So, I just consume a wide variety and go from there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shouldn’t some sort of fact checking function be necessary to qualify as a ‘news source’? If a site simply allows the posting of opinions then that serves a purpose but doesn’t qualify as news.

This is classic Orwellian and was amusing to watch be implements a few years ago in an attempt to control certain narratives by political entities.

It’s not Orwellian. It’s journalism 101. You don’t report a fact unless you corroborate with multiple sources.

DP. The attempt at fact checking fell apart a few years ago when it became obvious that the fact checkers were unable to put aside their own political biases. For instance, reporting on the actual medical research (and lack thereof) on puberty blockers for kids was abysmally inaccurate but wholly ignored by fact checkers.