MSLN - GA - ENCL

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the decision a club makes to join each of these leagues? What decision is best on the boys side and what decision is best on the girls side? Do boys teams have to go the same way as the girls team? Is it all or nothing in the league? Why would a club pick MLSN over GA or ECNL? Or GA over ENCL? Or why would you want to stay ECNL if given the "opportunity" to play GA? Can someone really explain the leagues to this new to travel soccer dad? If my club has changed to GA, why are some players on my child's team not wanting to do that with their teammates and instead want to go to other ENCL teams? I don't understand. Please help explain. We are trying to figure out what we should be doing here.

For boys, MLS Next is better than ECNL. For girls, ECNL is better than GA. In most cases, ECNL requires both sides (boys/girls) to be in ECNL. If boys play in MLS Next, girls have to go GA. So which side gets priority? Ideally, it would be girls in the ECNL, boys in MLS Next.

The ECNL is better than GA Mantra is old perception. Since the DA failed, the newer GA is rising in status. Aligning with MLSN will bring GA to a higher level than ECNL just like DA did. Within a few years, you will see better players defecting to the GA. This is already happening. ECNL made a big mistake forcing clubs to align with each other to generate more competitive teams. ECNL is generally disorganized. There are a lot of under the breath complaints about the operation of ECNL. Just look at the failed showcase in Seattle where many games were cancelled. ECNL is dropping the ball.

It's easier to understand when you step back and look at what ECNL and GA provide.

1. League Games
2. Events like showcases
3. Playoffs
4. Talent IDs

Both GA and ECNL provide above in a nearly identicle manner. What makes them different is the clubs involved.

If the only way into MLSN (the top boys league) is to play in GA over time clubs will switch their girls over from ECNL. It's just a matter of time. Also the way it will work is 1 or 2 big clubs will switch from ECNL to MLSN and GA then the rest will follow. This is how it worked when everyone switched to DA and it's how it worked when all the girls clubs switched back to ECNL when DA blew up. (The boys went to MLSN)

MLSN 1 has excellent showcases and social media presence. Fear of other clubs in the area getting MLS has driven decisions too, for example if VRSC got MLS1 because NVA chose ECNL they would lose many top players instantly.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the decision a club makes to join each of these leagues? What decision is best on the boys side and what decision is best on the girls side? Do boys teams have to go the same way as the girls team? Is it all or nothing in the league? Why would a club pick MLSN over GA or ECNL? Or GA over ENCL? Or why would you want to stay ECNL if given the "opportunity" to play GA? Can someone really explain the leagues to this new to travel soccer dad? If my club has changed to GA, why are some players on my child's team not wanting to do that with their teammates and instead want to go to other ENCL teams? I don't understand. Please help explain. We are trying to figure out what we should be doing here.

For boys, MLS Next is better than ECNL. For girls, ECNL is better than GA. In most cases, ECNL requires both sides (boys/girls) to be in ECNL. If boys play in MLS Next, girls have to go GA. So which side gets priority? Ideally, it would be girls in the ECNL, boys in MLS Next.

The ECNL is better than GA Mantra is old perception. Since the DA failed, the newer GA is rising in status. Aligning with MLSN will bring GA to a higher level than ECNL just like DA did. Within a few years, you will see better players defecting to the GA. This is already happening. ECNL made a big mistake forcing clubs to align with each other to generate more competitive teams. ECNL is generally disorganized. There are a lot of under the breath complaints about the operation of ECNL. Just look at the failed showcase in Seattle where many games were cancelled. ECNL is dropping the ball.

It's certainly incorrect to say that Mantra is old perception. It's current truth. The future is uncertain - that we can agree on.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the decision a club makes to join each of these leagues? What decision is best on the boys side and what decision is best on the girls side? Do boys teams have to go the same way as the girls team? Is it all or nothing in the league? Why would a club pick MLSN over GA or ECNL? Or GA over ENCL? Or why would you want to stay ECNL if given the "opportunity" to play GA? Can someone really explain the leagues to this new to travel soccer dad? If my club has changed to GA, why are some players on my child's team not wanting to do that with their teammates and instead want to go to other ENCL teams? I don't understand. Please help explain. We are trying to figure out what we should be doing here.

For boys, MLS Next is better than ECNL. For girls, ECNL is better than GA. In most cases, ECNL requires both sides (boys/girls) to be in ECNL. If boys play in MLS Next, girls have to go GA. So which side gets priority? Ideally, it would be girls in the ECNL, boys in MLS Next.

The ECNL is better than GA Mantra is old perception. Since the DA failed, the newer GA is rising in status. Aligning with MLSN will bring GA to a higher level than ECNL just like DA did. Within a few years, you will see better players defecting to the GA. This is already happening. ECNL made a big mistake forcing clubs to align with each other to generate more competitive teams. ECNL is generally disorganized. There are a lot of under the breath complaints about the operation of ECNL. Just look at the failed showcase in Seattle where many games were cancelled. ECNL is dropping the ball.

It's easier to understand when you step back and look at what ECNL and GA provide.

1. League Games
2. Events like showcases
3. Playoffs
4. Talent IDs

Both GA and ECNL provide above in a nearly identicle manner. What makes them different is the clubs involved.

If the only way into MLSN (the top boys league) is to play in GA over time clubs will switch their girls over from ECNL. It's just a matter of time. Also the way it will work is 1 or 2 big clubs will switch from ECNL to MLSN and GA then the rest will follow. This is how it worked when everyone switched to DA and it's how it worked when all the girls clubs switched back to ECNL when DA blew up. (The boys went to MLSN)

I don't agree. I do not see a lot of clubs moving to GA and dropping ECNL. Yes they will have to let the boys suffer but that is what will happen unless GA gets more equal to ECNL. But there is nothing that shows this will happen anytime soon. Indeed the reverse is true -- GA fell pretty far this year on recruiting.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the decision a club makes to join each of these leagues? What decision is best on the boys side and what decision is best on the girls side? Do boys teams have to go the same way as the girls team? Is it all or nothing in the league? Why would a club pick MLSN over GA or ECNL? Or GA over ENCL? Or why would you want to stay ECNL if given the "opportunity" to play GA? Can someone really explain the leagues to this new to travel soccer dad? If my club has changed to GA, why are some players on my child's team not wanting to do that with their teammates and instead want to go to other ENCL teams? I don't understand. Please help explain. We are trying to figure out what we should be doing here.

For boys, MLS Next is better than ECNL. For girls, ECNL is better than GA. In most cases, ECNL requires both sides (boys/girls) to be in ECNL. If boys play in MLS Next, girls have to go GA. So which side gets priority? Ideally, it would be girls in the ECNL, boys in MLS Next.

The ECNL is better than GA Mantra is old perception. Since the DA failed, the newer GA is rising in status. Aligning with MLSN will bring GA to a higher level than ECNL just like DA did. Within a few years, you will see better players defecting to the GA. This is already happening. ECNL made a big mistake forcing clubs to align with each other to generate more competitive teams. ECNL is generally disorganized. There are a lot of under the breath complaints about the operation of ECNL. Just look at the failed showcase in Seattle where many games were cancelled. ECNL is dropping the ball.

It's certainly incorrect to say that Mantra is old perception. It's current truth. The future is uncertain - that we can agree on.

GA started behind ECNL and has dropped like rock since.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the decision a club makes to join each of these leagues? What decision is best on the boys side and what decision is best on the girls side? Do boys teams have to go the same way as the girls team? Is it all or nothing in the league? Why would a club pick MLSN over GA or ECNL? Or GA over ENCL? Or why would you want to stay ECNL if given the "opportunity" to play GA? Can someone really explain the leagues to this new to travel soccer dad? If my club has changed to GA, why are some players on my child's team not wanting to do that with their teammates and instead want to go to other ENCL teams? I don't understand. Please help explain. We are trying to figure out what we should be doing here.

MLSNext. No MLSN. We’re not a cable television show.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the decision a club makes to join each of these leagues? What decision is best on the boys side and what decision is best on the girls side? Do boys teams have to go the same way as the girls team? Is it all or nothing in the league? Why would a club pick MLSN over GA or ECNL? Or GA over ENCL? Or why would you want to stay ECNL if given the "opportunity" to play GA? Can someone really explain the leagues to this new to travel soccer dad? If my club has changed to GA, why are some players on my child's team not wanting to do that with their teammates and instead want to go to other ENCL teams? I don't understand. Please help explain. We are trying to figure out what we should be doing here.

MLSNext. No MLSN. We’re not a cable television show.

Just because of your weird odd bizarre disturbing fixation we’ll keep calling it MLSN

[Anonymous]

Its an acroynym bro chill.... Major League Soccer Next - MLSN

[Anonymous]

Just like Tottenham, you can ask, but won't get us saying it how you want.

I mean really, in what world would we not shorten that? Be realistic.

[Anonymous]

why do you idiots leave an egregious spelling error in the title of this thread? God you hosers are so pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the decision a club makes to join each of these leagues? What decision is best on the boys side and what decision is best on the girls side? Do boys teams have to go the same way as the girls team? Is it all or nothing in the league? Why would a club pick MLSN over GA or ECNL? Or GA over ENCL? Or why would you want to stay ECNL if given the "opportunity" to play GA? Can someone really explain the leagues to this new to travel soccer dad? If my club has changed to GA, why are some players on my child's team not wanting to do that with their teammates and instead want to go to other ENCL teams? I don't understand. Please help explain. We are trying to figure out what we should be doing here.

MLSNext. No MLSN. We’re not a cable television show.

Just because of your weird odd bizarre disturbing fixation we’ll keep calling it MLSN

Yeah, it is MLSN. Been saying MLSN in conversations lately because of the ridiculous chirping. Starting to catch on more and more.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the decision a club makes to join each of these leagues? What decision is best on the boys side and what decision is best on the girls side? Do boys teams have to go the same way as the girls team? Is it all or nothing in the league? Why would a club pick MLSN over GA or ECNL? Or GA over ENCL? Or why would you want to stay ECNL if given the "opportunity" to play GA? Can someone really explain the leagues to this new to travel soccer dad? If my club has changed to GA, why are some players on my child's team not wanting to do that with their teammates and instead want to go to other ENCL teams? I don't understand. Please help explain. We are trying to figure out what we should be doing here.

For boys, MLS Next is better than ECNL. For girls, ECNL is better than GA. In most cases, ECNL requires both sides (boys/girls) to be in ECNL. If boys play in MLS Next, girls have to go GA. So which side gets priority? Ideally, it would be girls in the ECNL, boys in MLS Next.

The ECNL is better than GA Mantra is old perception. Since the DA failed, the newer GA is rising in status. Aligning with MLSN will bring GA to a higher level than ECNL just like DA did. Within a few years, you will see better players defecting to the GA. This is already happening. ECNL made a big mistake forcing clubs to align with each other to generate more competitive teams. ECNL is generally disorganized. There are a lot of under the breath complaints about the operation of ECNL. Just look at the failed showcase in Seattle where many games were cancelled. ECNL is dropping the ball.

It's easier to understand when you step back and look at what ECNL and GA provide.

1. League Games
2. Events like showcases
3. Playoffs
4. Talent IDs

Both GA and ECNL provide above in a nearly identicle manner. What makes them different is the clubs involved.

If the only way into MLSN (the top boys league) is to play in GA over time clubs will switch their girls over from ECNL. It's just a matter of time. Also the way it will work is 1 or 2 big clubs will switch from ECNL to MLSN and GA then the rest will follow. This is how it worked when everyone switched to DA and it's how it worked when all the girls clubs switched back to ECNL when DA blew up. (The boys went to MLSN)

This part:“Both GA and ECNL provide above in a nearly identicle manner. What makes them different is the clubs involved.” Is completely wrong. What makes them different is how many college coaches show up. As it currently stands, ECNL does a far better job providing whatever it is that college coaches are looking for. Maybe GA can replicate, but right now it’s not even close. Every college on the girls side goes to ECNL showcases, SOME college coaches also go to GA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the decision a club makes to join each of these leagues? What decision is best on the boys side and what decision is best on the girls side? Do boys teams have to go the same way as the girls team? Is it all or nothing in the league? Why would a club pick MLSN over GA or ECNL? Or GA over ENCL? Or why would you want to stay ECNL if given the "opportunity" to play GA? Can someone really explain the leagues to this new to travel soccer dad? If my club has changed to GA, why are some players on my child's team not wanting to do that with their teammates and instead want to go to other ENCL teams? I don't understand. Please help explain. We are trying to figure out what we should be doing here.

For boys, MLS Next is better than ECNL. For girls, ECNL is better than GA. In most cases, ECNL requires both sides (boys/girls) to be in ECNL. If boys play in MLS Next, girls have to go GA. So which side gets priority? Ideally, it would be girls in the ECNL, boys in MLS Next.

The ECNL is better than GA Mantra is old perception. Since the DA failed, the newer GA is rising in status. Aligning with MLSN will bring GA to a higher level than ECNL just like DA did. Within a few years, you will see better players defecting to the GA. This is already happening. ECNL made a big mistake forcing clubs to align with each other to generate more competitive teams. ECNL is generally disorganized. There are a lot of under the breath complaints about the operation of ECNL. Just look at the failed showcase in Seattle where many games were cancelled. ECNL is dropping the ball.

It's easier to understand when you step back and look at what ECNL and GA provide.

1. League Games
2. Events like showcases
3. Playoffs
4. Talent IDs

Both GA and ECNL provide above in a nearly identicle manner. What makes them different is the clubs involved.

If the only way into MLSN (the top boys league) is to play in GA over time clubs will switch their girls over from ECNL. It's just a matter of time. Also the way it will work is 1 or 2 big clubs will switch from ECNL to MLSN and GA then the rest will follow. This is how it worked when everyone switched to DA and it's how it worked when all the girls clubs switched back to ECNL when DA blew up. (The boys went to MLSN)

This part:“Both GA and ECNL provide above in a nearly identicle manner. What makes them different is the clubs involved.” Is completely wrong. What makes them different is how many college coaches show up. As it currently stands, ECNL does a far better job providing whatever it is that college coaches are looking for. Maybe GA can replicate, but right now it’s not even close. Every college on the girls side goes to ECNL showcases, SOME college coaches also go to GA.

It’s more than just SOME. GA is having a national event this week. Click on Attending Scouts and see for yourself: https://girlsacademyleague.com/champions-cup-finals/ 200 colleges will be there. Yes, ECNL gets more than 200. But then consider that many of those extra ECNL scouts are from colleges not from the eastern US where most from the DMV will go and the difference becomes even smaller.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the decision a club makes to join each of these leagues? What decision is best on the boys side and what decision is best on the girls side? Do boys teams have to go the same way as the girls team? Is it all or nothing in the league? Why would a club pick MLSN over GA or ECNL? Or GA over ENCL? Or why would you want to stay ECNL if given the "opportunity" to play GA? Can someone really explain the leagues to this new to travel soccer dad? If my club has changed to GA, why are some players on my child's team not wanting to do that with their teammates and instead want to go to other ENCL teams? I don't understand. Please help explain. We are trying to figure out what we should be doing here.

For boys, MLS Next is better than ECNL. For girls, ECNL is better than GA. In most cases, ECNL requires both sides (boys/girls) to be in ECNL. If boys play in MLS Next, girls have to go GA. So which side gets priority? Ideally, it would be girls in the ECNL, boys in MLS Next.

The ECNL is better than GA Mantra is old perception. Since the DA failed, the newer GA is rising in status. Aligning with MLSN will bring GA to a higher level than ECNL just like DA did. Within a few years, you will see better players defecting to the GA. This is already happening. ECNL made a big mistake forcing clubs to align with each other to generate more competitive teams. ECNL is generally disorganized. There are a lot of under the breath complaints about the operation of ECNL. Just look at the failed showcase in Seattle where many games were cancelled. ECNL is dropping the ball.

It's easier to understand when you step back and look at what ECNL and GA provide.

1. League Games
2. Events like showcases
3. Playoffs
4. Talent IDs

Both GA and ECNL provide above in a nearly identicle manner. What makes them different is the clubs involved.

If the only way into MLSN (the top boys league) is to play in GA over time clubs will switch their girls over from ECNL. It's just a matter of time. Also the way it will work is 1 or 2 big clubs will switch from ECNL to MLSN and GA then the rest will follow. This is how it worked when everyone switched to DA and it's how it worked when all the girls clubs switched back to ECNL when DA blew up. (The boys went to MLSN)

This part:“Both GA and ECNL provide above in a nearly identicle manner. What makes them different is the clubs involved.” Is completely wrong. What makes them different is how many college coaches show up. As it currently stands, ECNL does a far better job providing whatever it is that college coaches are looking for. Maybe GA can replicate, but right now it’s not even close. Every college on the girls side goes to ECNL showcases, SOME college coaches also go to GA.

Scouts don't attend events to check out a league.

Scouts do atrend events to check out players.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the decision a club makes to join each of these leagues? What decision is best on the boys side and what decision is best on the girls side? Do boys teams have to go the same way as the girls team? Is it all or nothing in the league? Why would a club pick MLSN over GA or ECNL? Or GA over ENCL? Or why would you want to stay ECNL if given the "opportunity" to play GA? Can someone really explain the leagues to this new to travel soccer dad? If my club has changed to GA, why are some players on my child's team not wanting to do that with their teammates and instead want to go to other ENCL teams? I don't understand. Please help explain. We are trying to figure out what we should be doing here.

For boys, MLS Next is better than ECNL. For girls, ECNL is better than GA. In most cases, ECNL requires both sides (boys/girls) to be in ECNL. If boys play in MLS Next, girls have to go GA. So which side gets priority? Ideally, it would be girls in the ECNL, boys in MLS Next.

The ECNL is better than GA Mantra is old perception. Since the DA failed, the newer GA is rising in status. Aligning with MLSN will bring GA to a higher level than ECNL just like DA did. Within a few years, you will see better players defecting to the GA. This is already happening. ECNL made a big mistake forcing clubs to align with each other to generate more competitive teams. ECNL is generally disorganized. There are a lot of under the breath complaints about the operation of ECNL. Just look at the failed showcase in Seattle where many games were cancelled. ECNL is dropping the ball.

It's easier to understand when you step back and look at what ECNL and GA provide.

1. League Games
2. Events like showcases
3. Playoffs
4. Talent IDs

Both GA and ECNL provide above in a nearly identicle manner. What makes them different is the clubs involved.

If the only way into MLSN (the top boys league) is to play in GA over time clubs will switch their girls over from ECNL. It's just a matter of time. Also the way it will work is 1 or 2 big clubs will switch from ECNL to MLSN and GA then the rest will follow. This is how it worked when everyone switched to DA and it's how it worked when all the girls clubs switched back to ECNL when DA blew up. (The boys went to MLSN)

This part:“Both GA and ECNL provide above in a nearly identicle manner. What makes them different is the clubs involved.” Is completely wrong. What makes them different is how many college coaches show up. As it currently stands, ECNL does a far better job providing whatever it is that college coaches are looking for. Maybe GA can replicate, but right now it’s not even close. Every college on the girls side goes to ECNL showcases, SOME college coaches also go to GA.

Scouts don't attend events to check out a league.

Scouts do atrend events to check out players.

True, but ECNL has more/better players than in GA, so scouts go there in greater numbers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the decision a club makes to join each of these leagues? What decision is best on the boys side and what decision is best on the girls side? Do boys teams have to go the same way as the girls team? Is it all or nothing in the league? Why would a club pick MLSN over GA or ECNL? Or GA over ENCL? Or why would you want to stay ECNL if given the "opportunity" to play GA? Can someone really explain the leagues to this new to travel soccer dad? If my club has changed to GA, why are some players on my child's team not wanting to do that with their teammates and instead want to go to other ENCL teams? I don't understand. Please help explain. We are trying to figure out what we should be doing here.

For boys, MLS Next is better than ECNL. For girls, ECNL is better than GA. In most cases, ECNL requires both sides (boys/girls) to be in ECNL. If boys play in MLS Next, girls have to go GA. So which side gets priority? Ideally, it would be girls in the ECNL, boys in MLS Next.

The ECNL is better than GA Mantra is old perception. Since the DA failed, the newer GA is rising in status. Aligning with MLSN will bring GA to a higher level than ECNL just like DA did. Within a few years, you will see better players defecting to the GA. This is already happening. ECNL made a big mistake forcing clubs to align with each other to generate more competitive teams. ECNL is generally disorganized. There are a lot of under the breath complaints about the operation of ECNL. Just look at the failed showcase in Seattle where many games were cancelled. ECNL is dropping the ball.

It's easier to understand when you step back and look at what ECNL and GA provide.

1. League Games
2. Events like showcases
3. Playoffs
4. Talent IDs

Both GA and ECNL provide above in a nearly identicle manner. What makes them different is the clubs involved.

If the only way into MLSN (the top boys league) is to play in GA over time clubs will switch their girls over from ECNL. It's just a matter of time. Also the way it will work is 1 or 2 big clubs will switch from ECNL to MLSN and GA then the rest will follow. This is how it worked when everyone switched to DA and it's how it worked when all the girls clubs switched back to ECNL when DA blew up. (The boys went to MLSN)

This part:“Both GA and ECNL provide above in a nearly identicle manner. What makes them different is the clubs involved.” Is completely wrong. What makes them different is how many college coaches show up. As it currently stands, ECNL does a far better job providing whatever it is that college coaches are looking for. Maybe GA can replicate, but right now it’s not even close. Every college on the girls side goes to ECNL showcases, SOME college coaches also go to GA.

It’s more than just SOME. GA is having a national event this week. Click on Attending Scouts and see for yourself: https://girlsacademyleague.com/champions-cup-finals/ 200 colleges will be there. Yes, ECNL gets more than 200. But then consider that many of those extra ECNL scouts are from colleges not from the eastern US where most from the DMV will go and the difference becomes even smaller.

This is for the Champions Cup - which is in theory the best teams in GA. They do attract lots of coaches because it's typically a higher caliber player pool than when compared to the remainder of the GA teams. If you are on a GA team that makes the Champions Cup consistently, then yes, you can have a relatively similar recruiting experience as you would in ECNL.