MSLN - GA - ENCL

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the decision a club makes to join each of these leagues? What decision is best on the boys side and what decision is best on the girls side? Do boys teams have to go the same way as the girls team? Is it all or nothing in the league? Why would a club pick MLSN over GA or ECNL? Or GA over ENCL? Or why would you want to stay ECNL if given the "opportunity" to play GA? Can someone really explain the leagues to this new to travel soccer dad? If my club has changed to GA, why are some players on my child's team not wanting to do that with their teammates and instead want to go to other ENCL teams? I don't understand. Please help explain. We are trying to figure out what we should be doing here.

For boys, MLS Next is better than ECNL. For girls, ECNL is better than GA. In most cases, ECNL requires both sides (boys/girls) to be in ECNL. If boys play in MLS Next, girls have to go GA. So which side gets priority? Ideally, it would be girls in the ECNL, boys in MLS Next.

The ECNL is better than GA Mantra is old perception. Since the DA failed, the newer GA is rising in status. Aligning with MLSN will bring GA to a higher level than ECNL just like DA did. Within a few years, you will see better players defecting to the GA. This is already happening. ECNL made a big mistake forcing clubs to align with each other to generate more competitive teams. ECNL is generally disorganized. There are a lot of under the breath complaints about the operation of ECNL. Just look at the failed showcase in Seattle where many games were cancelled. ECNL is dropping the ball.

It's easier to understand when you step back and look at what ECNL and GA provide.

1. League Games
2. Events like showcases
3. Playoffs
4. Talent IDs

Both GA and ECNL provide above in a nearly identicle manner. What makes them different is the clubs involved.

If the only way into MLSN (the top boys league) is to play in GA over time clubs will switch their girls over from ECNL. It's just a matter of time. Also the way it will work is 1 or 2 big clubs will switch from ECNL to MLSN and GA then the rest will follow. This is how it worked when everyone switched to DA and it's how it worked when all the girls clubs switched back to ECNL when DA blew up. (The boys went to MLSN)

I suspect longer term you will see ECNL player pathway further aligned with USL. MLSN might grow larger but talent will be more diluted. It's getting close now as many of the non-academy teams are not very good. ECNL will remain more attractive than MLSN for boys in certain markets. Not sure how this will impact girls but suspect ECNL will remain the better league for the near future.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the decision a club makes to join each of these leagues? What decision is best on the boys side and what decision is best on the girls side? Do boys teams have to go the same way as the girls team? Is it all or nothing in the league? Why would a club pick MLSN over GA or ECNL? Or GA over ENCL? Or why would you want to stay ECNL if given the "opportunity" to play GA? Can someone really explain the leagues to this new to travel soccer dad? If my club has changed to GA, why are some players on my child's team not wanting to do that with their teammates and instead want to go to other ENCL teams? I don't understand. Please help explain. We are trying to figure out what we should be doing here.

For boys, MLS Next is better than ECNL. For girls, ECNL is better than GA. In most cases, ECNL requires both sides (boys/girls) to be in ECNL. If boys play in MLS Next, girls have to go GA. So which side gets priority? Ideally, it would be girls in the ECNL, boys in MLS Next.

The ECNL is better than GA Mantra is old perception. Since the DA failed, the newer GA is rising in status. Aligning with MLSN will bring GA to a higher level than ECNL just like DA did. Within a few years, you will see better players defecting to the GA. This is already happening. ECNL made a big mistake forcing clubs to align with each other to generate more competitive teams. ECNL is generally disorganized. There are a lot of under the breath complaints about the operation of ECNL. Just look at the failed showcase in Seattle where many games were cancelled. ECNL is dropping the ball.

It's easier to understand when you step back and look at what ECNL and GA provide.

1. League Games
2. Events like showcases
3. Playoffs
4. Talent IDs

Both GA and ECNL provide above in a nearly identicle manner. What makes them different is the clubs involved.

If the only way into MLSN (the top boys league) is to play in GA over time clubs will switch their girls over from ECNL. It's just a matter of time. Also the way it will work is 1 or 2 big clubs will switch from ECNL to MLSN and GA then the rest will follow. This is how it worked when everyone switched to DA and it's how it worked when all the girls clubs switched back to ECNL when DA blew up. (The boys went to MLSN)

This part:“Both GA and ECNL provide above in a nearly identicle manner. What makes them different is the clubs involved.” Is completely wrong. What makes them different is how many college coaches show up. As it currently stands, ECNL does a far better job providing whatever it is that college coaches are looking for. Maybe GA can replicate, but right now it’s not even close. Every college on the girls side goes to ECNL showcases, SOME college coaches also go to GA.

It’s more than just SOME. GA is having a national event this week. Click on Attending Scouts and see for yourself: https://girlsacademyleague.com/champions-cup-finals/ 200 colleges will be there. Yes, ECNL gets more than 200. But then consider that many of those extra ECNL scouts are from colleges not from the eastern US where most from the DMV will go and the difference becomes even smaller.

This is for the Champions Cup - which is in theory the best teams in GA. They do attract lots of coaches because it's typically a higher caliber player pool than when compared to the remainder of the GA teams. If you are on a GA team that makes the Champions Cup consistently, then yes, you can have a relatively similar recruiting experience as you would in ECNL.

You keep pushing bad information I guess to support the narrative you like. The GA event this week is for Champions Cup clubs but it’s ALSO a showcase with plenty of non-champions cup teams. It’s also not GA’s biggest national event. The one in December was bigger with more than the 200 colleges that are at this one. Not saying GA is comparable to ENCL but the differences are less than many think and people should do the research.

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There sure are a lot of cycles wasted talking about the strength of the various youth leagues. If your kid is good, they will be found. NYFC just drafted a kid from Richmond who played for the Strikers and Davidson. Never playing higher that ECRL didn’t my seem to hold him back.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the decision a club makes to join each of these leagues? What decision is best on the boys side and what decision is best on the girls side? Do boys teams have to go the same way as the girls team? Is it all or nothing in the league? Why would a club pick MLSN over GA or ECNL? Or GA over ENCL? Or why would you want to stay ECNL if given the "opportunity" to play GA? Can someone really explain the leagues to this new to travel soccer dad? If my club has changed to GA, why are some players on my child's team not wanting to do that with their teammates and instead want to go to other ENCL teams? I don't understand. Please help explain. We are trying to figure out what we should be doing here.

For boys, MLS Next is better than ECNL. For girls, ECNL is better than GA. In most cases, ECNL requires both sides (boys/girls) to be in ECNL. If boys play in MLS Next, girls have to go GA. So which side gets priority? Ideally, it would be girls in the ECNL, boys in MLS Next.

The ECNL is better than GA Mantra is old perception. Since the DA failed, the newer GA is rising in status. Aligning with MLSN will bring GA to a higher level than ECNL just like DA did. Within a few years, you will see better players defecting to the GA. This is already happening. ECNL made a big mistake forcing clubs to align with each other to generate more competitive teams. ECNL is generally disorganized. There are a lot of under the breath complaints about the operation of ECNL. Just look at the failed showcase in Seattle where many games were cancelled. ECNL is dropping the ball.

It's easier to understand when you step back and look at what ECNL and GA provide.

1. League Games
2. Events like showcases
3. Playoffs
4. Talent IDs

Both GA and ECNL provide above in a nearly identicle manner. What makes them different is the clubs involved.

If the only way into MLSN (the top boys league) is to play in GA over time clubs will switch their girls over from ECNL. It's just a matter of time. Also the way it will work is 1 or 2 big clubs will switch from ECNL to MLSN and GA then the rest will follow. This is how it worked when everyone switched to DA and it's how it worked when all the girls clubs switched back to ECNL when DA blew up. (The boys went to MLSN)

This part:“Both GA and ECNL provide above in a nearly identicle manner. What makes them different is the clubs involved.” Is completely wrong. What makes them different is how many college coaches show up. As it currently stands, ECNL does a far better job providing whatever it is that college coaches are looking for. Maybe GA can replicate, but right now it’s not even close. Every college on the girls side goes to ECNL showcases, SOME college coaches also go to GA.

It’s more than just SOME. GA is having a national event this week. Click on Attending Scouts and see for yourself: https://girlsacademyleague.com/champions-cup-finals/ 200 colleges will be there. Yes, ECNL gets more than 200. But then consider that many of those extra ECNL scouts are from colleges not from the eastern US where most from the DMV will go and the difference becomes even smaller.

This is for the Champions Cup - which is in theory the best teams in GA. They do attract lots of coaches because it's typically a higher caliber player pool than when compared to the remainder of the GA teams. If you are on a GA team that makes the Champions Cup consistently, then yes, you can have a relatively similar recruiting experience as you would in ECNL.

You keep pushing bad information I guess to support the narrative you like. The GA event this week is for Champions Cup clubs but it’s ALSO a showcase with plenty of non-champions cup teams. It’s also not GA’s biggest national event. The one in December was bigger with more than the 200 colleges that are at this one. Not saying GA is comparable to ENCL but the differences are less than many think and people should do the research.

DD has been in both. Agree not a lot diferent for the top kids in GA. But the mid and bottom of GA teams are having a tough time with recruiting. Not so for ECNL.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain the decision a club makes to join each of these leagues? What decision is best on the boys side and what decision is best on the girls side? Do boys teams have to go the same way as the girls team? Is it all or nothing in the league? Why would a club pick MLSN over GA or ECNL? Or GA over ENCL? Or why would you want to stay ECNL if given the "opportunity" to play GA? Can someone really explain the leagues to this new to travel soccer dad? If my club has changed to GA, why are some players on my child's team not wanting to do that with their teammates and instead want to go to other ENCL teams? I don't understand. Please help explain. We are trying to figure out what we should be doing here.

For boys, MLS Next is better than ECNL. For girls, ECNL is better than GA. In most cases, ECNL requires both sides (boys/girls) to be in ECNL. If boys play in MLS Next, girls have to go GA. So which side gets priority? Ideally, it would be girls in the ECNL, boys in MLS Next.

The ECNL is better than GA Mantra is old perception. Since the DA failed, the newer GA is rising in status. Aligning with MLSN will bring GA to a higher level than ECNL just like DA did. Within a few years, you will see better players defecting to the GA. This is already happening. ECNL made a big mistake forcing clubs to align with each other to generate more competitive teams. ECNL is generally disorganized. There are a lot of under the breath complaints about the operation of ECNL. Just look at the failed showcase in Seattle where many games were cancelled. ECNL is dropping the ball.

It's easier to understand when you step back and look at what ECNL and GA provide.

1. League Games
2. Events like showcases
3. Playoffs
4. Talent IDs

Both GA and ECNL provide above in a nearly identicle manner. What makes them different is the clubs involved.

If the only way into MLSN (the top boys league) is to play in GA over time clubs will switch their girls over from ECNL. It's just a matter of time. Also the way it will work is 1 or 2 big clubs will switch from ECNL to MLSN and GA then the rest will follow. This is how it worked when everyone switched to DA and it's how it worked when all the girls clubs switched back to ECNL when DA blew up. (The boys went to MLSN)

This part:“Both GA and ECNL provide above in a nearly identicle manner. What makes them different is the clubs involved.” Is completely wrong. What makes them different is how many college coaches show up. As it currently stands, ECNL does a far better job providing whatever it is that college coaches are looking for. Maybe GA can replicate, but right now it’s not even close. Every college on the girls side goes to ECNL showcases, SOME college coaches also go to GA.

It’s more than just SOME. GA is having a national event this week. Click on Attending Scouts and see for yourself: https://girlsacademyleague.com/champions-cup-finals/ 200 colleges will be there. Yes, ECNL gets more than 200. But then consider that many of those extra ECNL scouts are from colleges not from the eastern US where most from the DMV will go and the difference becomes even smaller.

This is for the Champions Cup - which is in theory the best teams in GA. They do attract lots of coaches because it's typically a higher caliber player pool than when compared to the remainder of the GA teams. If you are on a GA team that makes the Champions Cup consistently, then yes, you can have a relatively similar recruiting experience as you would in ECNL.

You keep pushing bad information I guess to support the narrative you like. The GA event this week is for Champions Cup clubs but it’s ALSO a showcase with plenty of non-champions cup teams. It’s also not GA’s biggest national event. The one in December was bigger with more than the 200 colleges that are at this one. Not saying GA is comparable to ENCL but the differences are less than many think and people should do the research.

DD has been in both. Agree not a lot diferent for the top kids in GA. But the mid and bottom of GA teams are having a tough time with recruiting. Not so for ECNL.

All a league can do is provide exposure. The rest is up to the player. Both ECNL and GA provide more than enough exposure.