CES lottery cutoff MAP

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I am curious what is the raw score for 97th for MAP R?

224 for 3rd grade

221 is 90th percentile...just surprised at the sharp drop percentile with 3 points

That is strange. According to the 2020 norm table, 220 is 95th, 222 is 96th in 3rd grade winter test.

It depends on the school i thought

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I am curious what is the raw score for 97th for MAP R?

224 for 3rd grade

221 is 90th percentile...just surprised at the sharp drop percentile with 3 points

That is strange. According to the 2020 norm table, 220 is 95th, 222 is 96th in 3rd grade winter test.

It depends on the school i thought

The lottery cutoff depends on whether you are low or high FARMS. I believe it is pooled across those categories and not by individual school

But those scores above are the national percentiles.

So a 220 is 95th nationwide but may be like 70th in a low FARMS school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now that the winter MAP have posted, curious if any of the current 4th or 5th grade parents can share what their kids’ MAP-R score was (percentile or raw score), low or high FARMs, and whether kid made it in the lottery or not.

Kid went from 99th percentile in the fall to 97th in winter, and I worry that drop just cost a spot in the lottery…

There was a recent thread about ces cutoff someone complaining their kid didn't get in

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Anonymous wrote:You only need map-r in the 85th percentile to be in the lottery. Map-m is not considered.

85th locally normed… which at a low farms school could be 99th percentile

For real? Need to be 99th percentile at low farms school? How about kids with IEP?

No. People love to exaggerate and make a lot of assumptions that low poverty schools have only the highest achievers.

MCPS has only released information from a couple years ago, but at that point the cut off for the lowest FARMS schools was about the 93rd percentile. It went much lower for the highest poverty schools, but there were also very few schools categorized in the highest poverty tier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now that the winter MAP have posted, curious if any of the current 4th or 5th grade parents can share what their kids’ MAP-R score was (percentile or raw score), low or high FARMs, and whether kid made it in the lottery or not.

Kid went from 99th percentile in the fall to 97th in winter, and I worry that drop just cost a spot in the lottery…

A caveat. Last year's local norms may be different from this year's local norms, though last year's may provide a rough estimate, with the assumption of similar performance from year to year within each school grouping. Can't depend on it, though.

This year's local norms will depend on the entire set of test scores from this year's test takers, within each MCPS-FARMS-band of schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You only need map-r in the 85th percentile to be in the lottery. Map-m is not considered.

85th locally normed… which at a low farms school could be 99th percentile

For real? Need to be 99th percentile at low farms school? How about kids with IEP?

No. People love to exaggerate and make a lot of assumptions that low poverty schools have only the highest achievers.

MCPS has only released information from a couple years ago, but at that point the cut off for the lowest FARMS schools was about the 93rd percentile. It went much lower for the highest poverty schools, but there were also very few schools categorized in the highest poverty tier.

I found the thread from last year: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1047197.page

Many kids scoring 95th percentile plus not in the pool….

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Now that the winter MAP have posted, curious if any of the current 4th or 5th grade parents can share what their kids’ MAP-R score was (percentile or raw score), low or high FARMs, and whether kid made it in the lottery or not.

Kid went from 99th percentile in the fall to 97th in winter, and I worry that drop just cost a spot in the lottery…

There was a recent thread about ces cutoff someone complaining their kid didn't get in

OP here: That was for the middle school magnets I think… I’m trying to see if I should prepare kid now that they may not get into the enriched group next year (they know about the difference already). I know CES is a long shot even if you get into the pool so not going to get hopes up about that but was really hoping kid would be in ELC next year.

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Does anyone know if they will start mailing the lottery results this week or next? Do we also get it on parentvue? Thank you!

[Anonymous]

From the CES website:
Mid to late March 2025 Central Review and Lottery Results sent to families
March 31- April 9, 2025 Invited Family Events at CES sites
April 11, 2025 - Deadline to appeal Central Review results

I'm guessing we will see them more towards the end of March.

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if they will start mailing the lottery results this week or next? Do we also get it on parentvue? Thank you!

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I fully trust DCUM will post once anyone gets a letter.... hopefully that will keep me from reloading parentvue too often

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the CES website:
Mid to late March 2025 Central Review and Lottery Results sent to families
March 31- April 9, 2025 Invited Family Events at CES sites
April 11, 2025 - Deadline to appeal Central Review results

I'm guessing we will see them more towards the end of March.

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if they will start mailing the lottery results this week or next? Do we also get it on parentvue? Thank you!

Families will receive a letter in the US Mail and on ParentVue the week of March 10, 2025. The letter will note if the student met the criteria to be in the lottery pool and if the student is in the lottery pool, whether or not the student was chosen in the lottery to be in the program. Invitations from the waitpool will come by email. It is helpful if families keep their contact information, including email address, up to date in ParentVUE.

The above came from the FAQ on the website. So I am confused with EOM.

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250 with 98 percentile 5th grade CES

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My kiddo is in both pool math and humanities but not selected in first round. Waiting for the 2nd round results.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the CES website:
Mid to late March 2025 Central Review and Lottery Results sent to families
March 31- April 9, 2025 Invited Family Events at CES sites
April 11, 2025 - Deadline to appeal Central Review results

I'm guessing we will see them more towards the end of March.

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if they will start mailing the lottery results this week or next? Do we also get it on parentvue? Thank you!

Thank you!!

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Anonymous wrote:My kiddo is in both pool math and humanities but not selected in first round. Waiting for the 2nd round results.

I assume you’re talking middle school? This is a thread specifically for the CES for 4th grade.