Is Gen Z like Millenials in that they think everything they do is wonderful?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm an old millennial. Millennials have it tough! We were not coddled or told we were wonderful. Maybe these people at your workplace have a wealthy background? That breeds this attitude in all generations. As for Gen Z, they have a sense of self-worth, boundaries and not putting up with bullshit in the workplace. It's a good thing millennials don't have.


What gen was coddled and told they were wonderful? And that their comfort and feelings matter most? I thought that was millennials.

Yes, the people I’m thinking of are all from UMC families I believe. So maybe that’s it.


Millennials were not nurtured by boomers at all, the opposite. So as a reaction, they paid more attention to their Gen Z kids, especially to emotional health. But it's not a negative.


Most millennials don’t have Gen Z kids.


This. Especially not kids old enough to be in the workplace. Those kids were raised by Gen X.

It’s the internet/social media. Everyone thinks they know everything, that their opinion is important, that they are the main character of their own reality show, and that they are “advocating for themselves” when they say no or push back on things they’re being asked to do by supervisors. They also seem to fail to understand the importance of showing up to a meeting on time or at least communicating if you’re running late.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm an old millennial. Millennials have it tough! We were not coddled or told we were wonderful. Maybe these people at your workplace have a wealthy background? That breeds this attitude in all generations. As for Gen Z, they have a sense of self-worth, boundaries and not putting up with bullshit in the workplace. It's a good thing millennials don't have.


What gen was coddled and told they were wonderful? And that their comfort and feelings matter most? I thought that was millennials.

Yes, the people I’m thinking of are all from UMC families I believe. So maybe that’s it.


Millennials were not nurtured by boomers at all, the opposite. So as a reaction, they paid more attention to their Gen Z kids, especially to emotional health. But it's not a negative.


Most millennials don’t have Gen Z kids.


This. Especially not kids old enough to be in the workplace. Those kids were raised by Gen X.

It’s the internet/social media. Everyone thinks they know everything, that their opinion is important, that they are the main character of their own reality show, and that they are “advocating for themselves” when they say no or push back on things they’re being asked to do by supervisors. They also seem to fail to understand the importance of showing up to a meeting on time or at least communicating if you’re running late.


I agree that the Gen Z kids in the workforce right now had Gen X parents.

Fwiw, teachers say that the curent crop of young Gen Z/Gen Alpha kids are an absolute disaster - and they have Millennial parents.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm an old millennial. Millennials have it tough! We were not coddled or told we were wonderful. Maybe these people at your workplace have a wealthy background? That breeds this attitude in all generations. As for Gen Z, they have a sense of self-worth, boundaries and not putting up with bullshit in the workplace. It's a good thing millennials don't have.


What gen was coddled and told they were wonderful? And that their comfort and feelings matter most? I thought that was millennials.

Yes, the people I’m thinking of are all from UMC families I believe. So maybe that’s it.


Millennials were not nurtured by boomers at all, the opposite. So as a reaction, they paid more attention to their Gen Z kids, especially to emotional health. But it's not a negative.


Most millennials don’t have Gen Z kids.


I do
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Anonymous wrote:I'm an old millennial. Millennials have it tough! We were not coddled or told we were wonderful. Maybe these people at your workplace have a wealthy background? That breeds this attitude in all generations. As for Gen Z, they have a sense of self-worth, boundaries and not putting up with bullshit in the workplace. It's a good thing millennials don't have.


This is the opposite of my experience. The millennials I work with (people in their 30s usually) think that they are god's gift and deserve everything.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm an old millennial. Millennials have it tough! We were not coddled or told we were wonderful. Maybe these people at your workplace have a wealthy background? That breeds this attitude in all generations. As for Gen Z, they have a sense of self-worth, boundaries and not putting up with bullshit in the workplace. It's a good thing millennials don't have.


This is the opposite of my experience. The millennials I work with (people in their 30s usually) think that they are god's gift and deserve everything.


This is my experience too. I posted earlier about my millennial coworker who thinks she is so smart, so funny, so fashionable, so everything wonderful and at times the disconnect from reality is hysterical. She keeps calling herself a ‘chef’ and a ‘foodie’ and an ‘expert baker’ but recently we all had to bring in desserts for an event. Her baked goods looked like hard misshapen lumps and were inedible.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm an old millennial. Millennials have it tough! We were not coddled or told we were wonderful. Maybe these people at your workplace have a wealthy background? That breeds this attitude in all generations. As for Gen Z, they have a sense of self-worth, boundaries and not putting up with bullshit in the workplace. It's a good thing millennials don't have.


What gen was coddled and told they were wonderful? And that their comfort and feelings matter most? I thought that was millennials.

Yes, the people I’m thinking of are all from UMC families I believe. So maybe that’s it.


Millennials were not nurtured by boomers at all, the opposite. So as a reaction, they paid more attention to their Gen Z kids, especially to emotional health. But it's not a negative.


Most millennials don’t have Gen Z kids.


I do


Again, reading comp and logic. Sigh
Anonymous
Boomers: “Back in my day…”

Also Boomers: “Millennials and Gen Z think everything they do is the best way to do everything, and let me tell you how they are wrong!”
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Literally everyone is like this. It’s not a generation thing, it’s a normal part of that age. Listen to Gen X music of the 80s/90s and you’ll see they felt the same way.

And also, often young people do have a fresh perspective and bring new ideas. I remember being in the workplace with old Boomers who were stuck in their ways (I’m an older millennial), and I could solve problems they couldn’t. Both sides bring positives to the table, whether it’s experience or a new perspective.

Also agree with PP that it’s great they have workplace boundaries. I hate working with Gen X and Boomers because they feel entitled to my time 24/7.


Lol. I don’t need to listen to Gen X music to figure out what they thought. I’m Gen X and when I started working in law firms, you did what the partners asked, canceled plans if you were needed, didn’t assume you knew everything. My gen x friends (now senior and partners etc) and I often notice how different the younger generation is- more likely to throw work back at a senior person, more likely to want time off for things we’d never have asked for (their dog is sick, it’s their BFFs bday), more likely to speak as if they are experts when they’re not.

It feels like a shift for sure. And yes, obviously each generation brings positives, and negatives, to the table


Definitely bringing more negatives. I had a first year associate tell me the other day that he was working too hard and that he felt he was working beyond normal working hours. He had 47 billable hours for January. Don’t think he’ll make it long in biglaw. I would never have even thought of saying this to a partner when I started.
Anonymous
No. Gen Z is low key
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm an old millennial. Millennials have it tough! We were not coddled or told we were wonderful. Maybe these people at your workplace have a wealthy background? That breeds this attitude in all generations. As for Gen Z, they have a sense of self-worth, boundaries and not putting up with bullshit in the workplace. It's a good thing millennials don't have.


This is the opposite of my experience. The millennials I work with (people in their 30s usually) think that they are god's gift and deserve everything.


That’s the difference between older and younger Millennials IMO. If we roughly divide it by “Millennials born in the 80s” and “Millennials born in the 90s,” the 80s Millennials had very different childhoods and upbringings than the later Millennials. I was born in 84 and I absolutely have friends who had silent generationer parents and multiple Gen X siblings. They might as well have been Gen X themselves, just with the added disadvantage of being younger adults in their mid 20s just getting started in their careers when the economy crashed in 2008.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Literally everyone is like this. It’s not a generation thing, it’s a normal part of that age. Listen to Gen X music of the 80s/90s and you’ll see they felt the same way.

And also, often young people do have a fresh perspective and bring new ideas. I remember being in the workplace with old Boomers who were stuck in their ways (I’m an older millennial), and I could solve problems they couldn’t. Both sides bring positives to the table, whether it’s experience or a new perspective.

Also agree with PP that it’s great they have workplace boundaries. I hate working with Gen X and Boomers because they feel entitled to my time 24/7.


Lol. I don’t need to listen to Gen X music to figure out what they thought. I’m Gen X and when I started working in law firms, you did what the partners asked, canceled plans if you were needed, didn’t assume you knew everything. My gen x friends (now senior and partners etc) and I often notice how different the younger generation is- more likely to throw work back at a senior person, more likely to want time off for things we’d never have asked for (their dog is sick, it’s their BFFs bday), more likely to speak as if they are experts when they’re not.

It feels like a shift for sure. And yes, obviously each generation brings positives, and negatives, to the table


Definitely bringing more negatives. I had a first year associate tell me the other day that he was working too hard and that he felt he was working beyond normal working hours. He had 47 billable hours for January. Don’t think he’ll make it long in biglaw. I would never have even thought of saying this to a partner when I started.


My friends daughter told her Goldman Sachs’s MD that she wouldn’t work weekends. WTF
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Boomers: “Back in my day…”

Also Boomers: “Millennials and Gen Z think everything they do is the best way to do everything, and let me tell you how they are wrong!”


You’re probably a millennial bc you call everyone a boomer
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Literally everyone is like this. It’s not a generation thing, it’s a normal part of that age. Listen to Gen X music of the 80s/90s and you’ll see they felt the same way.

And also, often young people do have a fresh perspective and bring new ideas. I remember being in the workplace with old Boomers who were stuck in their ways (I’m an older millennial), and I could solve problems they couldn’t. Both sides bring positives to the table, whether it’s experience or a new perspective.

Also agree with PP that it’s great they have workplace boundaries. I hate working with Gen X and Boomers because they feel entitled to my time 24/7.


Lol. I don’t need to listen to Gen X music to figure out what they thought. I’m Gen X and when I started working in law firms, you did what the partners asked, canceled plans if you were needed, didn’t assume you knew everything. My gen x friends (now senior and partners etc) and I often notice how different the younger generation is- more likely to throw work back at a senior person, more likely to want time off for things we’d never have asked for (their dog is sick, it’s their BFFs bday), more likely to speak as if they are experts when they’re not.

It feels like a shift for sure. And yes, obviously each generation brings positives, and negatives, to the table


Definitely bringing more negatives. I had a first year associate tell me the other day that he was working too hard and that he felt he was working beyond normal working hours. He had 47 billable hours for January. Don’t think he’ll make it long in biglaw. I would never have even thought of saying this to a partner when I started.


I had a partner tell me during a job interview, “we work nine in the morning until nine at night.” He stared at my pregnant belly while he said it.

He is dead now. I actually watched him have an aneurysm or stroke out in the middle of a speech at a conference. (I took a job at another firm). That partner was a delightful speaker but he skipped his “third point” that day during his stoke. He was escorted off the stage. He was never the same.
Anonymous
At my second law firm, supposedly a ‘family friendly’ mid sized firm, the partner would yell ‘half day, Susie?!’ if he saw me walk out before 8pm. Har.

Obviously there is a happy middle ground. Asking for a day off for your BFFs bday or bc your dog has diarrhea is a bridge too far
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