UVA vs U Michigan-Engineering

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Anonymous wrote:Have you seen both? The facilities for engineering are night and day to me, with Michigan being far superior. Lots of other things to consider but engineering facilities are not close

Michigan has nearly 10K engineering students. UVA is a little over 1K.

So, at UVa, E students will be a name not a number, while at U Mich E students will be a number not a name.

Nope, at UVa also a (4 digit) number

Not in the UVa E School. Been there, done that. Faculty in the student’s department at UVa SEAS nearly always will actually know their students on sight.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have you seen both? The facilities for engineering are night and day to me, with Michigan being far superior. Lots of other things to consider but engineering facilities are not close

Michigan has nearly 10K engineering students. UVA is a little over 1K.

At UVA, engineering degrees are 10% of all Bachelor's degrees awarded.

At Michigan, engineering degrees are 13% of Bachelor's degrees awarded.

Not all that different adjusted for school size.

The PP was talking about the great difference in facilities. I was just pointing out the obvious. Michigan has a much, much larger program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have you seen both? The facilities for engineering are night and day to me, with Michigan being far superior. Lots of other things to consider but engineering facilities are not close

Michigan has nearly 10K engineering students. UVA is a little over 1K.

At UVA, engineering degrees are 10% of all Bachelor's degrees awarded.

At Michigan, engineering degrees are 13% of Bachelor's degrees awarded.

Not all that different adjusted for school size.

The PP was talking about the great difference in facilities. I was just pointing out the obvious. Michigan has a much, much larger program.

Which actually may not be a good thing for many students…

[Anonymous]

It’s too bad the state flagship of Virginia is so average in STEM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have you seen both? The facilities for engineering are night and day to me, with Michigan being far superior. Lots of other things to consider but engineering facilities are not close

Michigan has nearly 10K engineering students. UVA is a little over 1K.

At UVA, engineering degrees are 10% of all Bachelor's degrees awarded.

At Michigan, engineering degrees are 13% of Bachelor's degrees awarded.

Not all that different adjusted for school size.

The PP was talking about the great difference in facilities. I was just pointing out the obvious. Michigan has a much, much larger program.

And I still don’t get your point. Do you think the size of UVA is good or bad?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s too bad the state flagship of Virginia is so average in STEM.

Your positivity adds so much light to the world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s too bad the state flagship of Virginia is so average in STEM.

Your positivity adds so much light to the world.

If UVA were better in STEM, the OP wouldn’t have even started this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have you seen both? The facilities for engineering are night and day to me, with Michigan being far superior. Lots of other things to consider but engineering facilities are not close

Michigan has nearly 10K engineering students. UVA is a little over 1K.

So, at UVa, E students will be a name not a number, while at U Mich E students will be a number not a name.

Nope, at UVa also a (4 digit) number

Not in the UVa E School. Been there, done that. Faculty in the student’s department at UVa SEAS nearly always will actually know their students on sight.

That’s cute. All things being equal I’d prefer the program with better faculty, resources, research opportunities, and reputation. I don’t need to know EVERYONE on the faculty or for them to recognize me to get a superior education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have you seen both? The facilities for engineering are night and day to me, with Michigan being far superior. Lots of other things to consider but engineering facilities are not close

Michigan has nearly 10K engineering students. UVA is a little over 1K.

So, at UVa, E students will be a name not a number, while at U Mich E students will be a number not a name.

Nope, at UVa also a (4 digit) number

Not in the UVa E School. Been there, done that. Faculty in the student’s department at UVa SEAS nearly always will actually know their students on sight.

That’s cute. All things being equal I’d prefer the program with better faculty, resources, research opportunities, and reputation. I don’t need to know EVERYONE on the faculty or for them to recognize me to get a superior education.

There is more than one way to do things and, particularly at the undergraduate level, bigger is not always better. Look at median earnings in different areas of engineering for undergraduates (from College Scorecard):

Aerospace: UM $113,025; UVA $93,485
Biomedical: UVA $94,692; UM $85,471
Chemical: UVA $115,895; UM $100,000
Civil: UVA $95,518; UM $88,870
Computer: UVA $139,318; UM $123,120
Electrical: UVA $114,299; UM $109,107
Mechanical: UM $101,514; UVA $91,262

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have you seen both? The facilities for engineering are night and day to me, with Michigan being far superior. Lots of other things to consider but engineering facilities are not close

Michigan has nearly 10K engineering students. UVA is a little over 1K.

So, at UVa, E students will be a name not a number, while at U Mich E students will be a number not a name.

Nope, at UVa also a (4 digit) number

Not in the UVa E School. Been there, done that. Faculty in the student’s department at UVa SEAS nearly always will actually know their students on sight.

That’s cute. All things being equal I’d prefer the program with better faculty, resources, research opportunities, and reputation. I don’t need to know EVERYONE on the faculty or for them to recognize me to get a superior education.

There is more than one way to do things and, particularly at the undergraduate level, bigger is not always better. Look at median earnings in different areas of engineering for undergraduates (from College Scorecard):

Aerospace: UM $113,025; UVA $93,485
Biomedical: UVA $94,692; UM $85,471
Chemical: UVA $115,895; UM $100,000
Civil: UVA $95,518; UM $88,870
Computer: UVA $139,318; UM $123,120
Electrical: UVA $114,299; UM $109,107
Mechanical: UM $101,514; UVA $91,262

So 5-2 in favor of UVA.