What happens if large percentage take the buy out?

[Anonymous]

It’s not a buyout. Nobody is taking it. I mean my agency still has a VERA offer open that covers almost everyone in my agency.

[Anonymous]

They are grossly overestimating the number of people who won't return to office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If more than 5% take this deal, I'd be surprised.

-A fed.

I read they were aiming for 5-10% with this, I think that is feasible.

A friend is a legal recruiter, she is getting a lot of calls from feds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What happens if you don't take the buyout to look for a new job and then a large percentage of government workers get the axe in September, for the new fiscal year?

If they thought they had the ability to do that they would have just done that instead of making this offer.

You don't know that.

[Anonymous]

^prior to this latest email, people are trying to get out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What happens if you don't take the buyout to look for a new job and then a large percentage of government workers get the axe in September, for the new fiscal year?

If they thought they had the ability to do that they would have just done that instead of making this offer.

You don't know that.

I would not assume that either. It’s planned phases. Getting 5-10% out now + RTO ups pressure. Then on to phase 2.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What happens if there is a large percentage (50% or more) who take the federal buy out? All of those jobs just cease to exist? No work gets done at the federal level? Or is everything just optics and the work gets moved to federal contractor companies? That way Trump can say he reduced the federal workforce by 50% and his base is too stupid to realize all the work actually went to federal contractors.

I think it depends, some agencies they won’t contract out, think DOE.

What do you mean? DOE is hugely dependent on contractors. Who do you think runs all the national labs?

Anyway I think some people will take this but only the ones who have retired/quit anyway, which means it is about the stupidest possible way to reduce head count.

Say a manager or SME with 30 years experience retires you are going to decide that there is no need to replace them because they happened to be ready to go?

[Anonymous]

Only people taking this are people who were already planning to retire or leave. No way its going to even be 5%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This ain’t Twitter Elon! Try again M-fer!

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What happens if you don't take the buyout to look for a new job and then a large percentage of government workers get the axe in September, for the new fiscal year?

If they thought they had the ability to do that they would have just done that instead of making this offer.

You don't know that.

I would not assume that either. It’s planned phases. Getting 5-10% out now + RTO ups pressure. Then on to phase 2.

+1. It's this

[Anonymous]

I wouldn’t do it even if it was planning to retire, I don’t trust them at all.

[Anonymous]

It is always pending mgt approval.

My old company way back we did an exercise where we had 3,000 employees and sr. Mgt with HR and review of Performance reviews on a paper print out in a conference room "red circled" 10 percent of company. Meaning Dead wood, excess worker, over paid, bad performer.

Then we went back a second time and "double red circled" the worst of worse to get to bottom 5 percent.

We then did a program similar to this. Anyone doubled redcircled we accepted resignation instantly. Anyone one redcircle HR briefly took a look.

We off loaded around 5 percent of company. Pretty much open to all to apply.

The double red-circled people we then wrote up and fired one by one and they went out in a less dignified way.

We were a union shop so to fire people a real pain proving it. Better if dead wood took a deal

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If more than 5% take this deal, I'd be surprised.

-A fed.

I read they were aiming for 5-10% with this, I think that is feasible.

A friend is a legal recruiter, she is getting a lot of calls from feds.

no halfway intelligent lawyer is taking this “offer.” It offers literally nothing except being able to avoid RTO for a few months.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Only people taking this are people who were already planning to retire or leave. No way its going to even be 5%.

I would be shocked if they reach 2%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Only people taking this are people who were already planning to retire or leave. No way it’s going to even be 5%.

I wouldn’t take it even if I was planning to retire because it’s totally unclear how it impacts your SCD etc. About the only scenario I can see someone taking this is if they literally cannot RTO and were ordered to do so immediately. Despite all the lies, that’s not a big number of people - definitely not 5% of the entire federal workforce, lol. Even if I was in the category of not being physically able to RTO I probably would not take it because the actual agency process of terminating me would take longer and have due process. And of course, choosing to “resign” means you likely lose your legal right to bring a claim related to the RTO order.