Your thoughts on likelihood of rolling back SS, Medicaid, Medicare after first week

[Anonymous]

The ideas they are considering are linked in this article (there's a PDF list): https://ccf.georgetown.edu/2025/01/20/house-budget-committee-circulates-new-detailed-list-of-budget-reconciliation-options-including-draconian-medicaid-cuts-within-house-republican-caucus/

There needs to be Social Security reform of some kind and the potential changes get more and more painful the longer you wait. That's not a Trump-specific issue at all. The money is not being stolen. https://www.ssa.gov/OACT/solvency/

[Anonymous]

I don't want to hear anything about raising the retirement age until they raise the cap on SS taxes dramatically (ideally eliminating it)

[Anonymous]

Sadly the benefits of social security aren't worth it for most of us. You get $1-4K a year but how much did you pay in over your lifetime to get 10-20 years of benefits. For medicare, you pay premiums all your life from your payroll taxes to when you actually take it. Not worth it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sadly the benefits of social security aren't worth it for most of us. You get $1-4K a year but how much did you pay in over your lifetime to get 10-20 years of benefits. For medicare, you pay premiums all your life from your payroll taxes to when you actually take it. Not worth it.

That’s a month, not a year. Clearly not enough to live on for most, but it’s something.

I turn 65 soon and was going to wait till 67 to collect SS, but who knows what will be happening in two years.

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Anonymous wrote:They definitely going to crush medicaid-- they need $5 trillion to pay for their tax cuts for the wealthy and while they won't find all of that they need to find enough to keep the bond markets happy or they will see crazy high interest rates, like the UK when they had Liz Truss trying to do supply side economics.

Probably they will try to get a trillion out of Medicaid and another $500 billion out of medicare, making it less and less useful to anyone.

Do people think they will just try to roll back expansion Medicaid? I don't think they can touch Medicaid for individuals on SSI/SSDI/elderly. Not sure about children's coverage

[Anonymous]

It makes the most sense for trump to eliminate Medicaid for immigrants, of all ages, who qualify. That sounds most like something he’d do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sadly the benefits of social security aren't worth it for most of us. You get $1-4K a year but how much did you pay in over your lifetime to get 10-20 years of benefits. For medicare, you pay premiums all your life from your payroll taxes to when you actually take it. Not worth it.

What? No. Most Americans get more from SS and Medicare then they paid in.

[Anonymous]

I'm near retirement. Cut my SS so I don't get as much as I put in to give Bezos a tax cut and I'm out in the streets with a baseball bat. To the Republicans who pull this crap, FU. Maybe the American people will finally wake up, though I doubt it.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm near retirement. Cut my SS so I don't get as much as I put in to give Bezos a tax cut and I'm out in the streets with a baseball bat. To the Republicans who pull this crap, FU. Maybe the American people will finally wake up, though I doubt it.

No one cares about your baseball bat. We already had Rodney King Occupy Wall St and Georgie Floyd.

The current leader of the US government has been wearing t-shirt mocking Occupy Wall St for years.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm near retirement. Cut my SS so I don't get as much as I put in to give Bezos a tax cut and I'm out in the streets with a baseball bat. To the Republicans who pull this crap, FU. Maybe the American people will finally wake up, though I doubt it.

No one cares about your baseball bat. We already had Rodney King Occupy Wall St and Georgie Floyd.

The current leader of the US government has been wearing t-shirt mocking Occupy Wall St for years.

Why are you on their side? You're OK if benefits you paid into are not received?

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Anonymous wrote:As a millennial I'd like to make ss optional so I can stop paying and cash out

"cash out"? It's a pay as you go system-- the most you can do is destroy the social safety net for seniors by ending social security but you are never getting your contributions back.

Don't be a tool and let the right wing propaganda tell you the money isn't there for social security-- it's only not there if they steal it for other things, like tax cuts for the wealthy.

Too late

[Anonymous]

Are the people blithely saying "good" aware that they will one day be old?

I know that if Trump tries to touch Medicare (especially any move to privatize it) I will go chain myself to the Capitol building with an "over my dead body" sign. Even though I'm early 40s, have great health insurance, and very healthy.

One day I will be in my 70s and 80s and have the same health problems lots of people in their 70s and 80s have and I will need to be able to see a doctor, get a prescription, and receive basic healthcare. Do you know what it would be like for a 70 or 80 year old on the private insurance market? And having to do that after paying into the Medicare system for decades?

Absolutely not. You can prize Medicare from my cold, dead hands. We cannot simply abandon the elderly to our terrible private insurance system when they are too old to work. What is wrong with you? Are you a billionaire? If not, this will impact you too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm near retirement. Cut my SS so I don't get as much as I put in to give Bezos a tax cut and I'm out in the streets with a baseball bat. To the Republicans who pull this crap, FU. Maybe the American people will finally wake up, though I doubt it.

This. Trump might not care because he never has to run for office again and he's very rich. But there are more of the rest of us and if you tell people that the system they've paid into their entire life will not be there to sustain them when they are too old to work anymore, people will have nothing to lose from rising up. You think there's been civil unrest the last few years? Go ahead and try to eliminate SS and Medicare and you'll learn what civil unrest is. It's people with not other options exercising the only leverage they have left.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They definitely going to crush medicaid-- they need $5 trillion to pay for their tax cuts for the wealthy and while they won't find all of that they need to find enough to keep the bond markets happy or they will see crazy high interest rates, like the UK when they had Liz Truss trying to do supply side economics.

Probably they will try to get a trillion out of Medicaid and another $500 billion out of medicare, making it less and less useful to anyone.

Do people think they will just try to roll back expansion Medicaid? I don't think they can touch Medicaid for individuals on SSI/SSDI/elderly. Not sure about children's coverage

I mean, eliminating birthright citizenship is also unconstitutional but here we are.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sadly the benefits of social security aren't worth it for most of us. You get $1-4K a year but how much did you pay in over your lifetime to get 10-20 years of benefits. For medicare, you pay premiums all your life from your payroll taxes to when you actually take it. Not worth it.

What? No. Most Americans get more from SS and Medicare then they paid in.

You have to imagine that you have invested the contributions well for all the years...but most/many people will just spend the money and still be left needed gov support in the end.