Your thoughts on likelihood of rolling back SS, Medicaid, Medicare after first week

Anonymous
Rolling back Medicaid and Medicare is going to bankrupt a lot of hospitals.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:As a millennial I'd like to make ss optional so I can stop paying and cash out


That’s not how SS works. Your taxes pay for current retirees and younger generations pay for you.

How much did the first recipients pay into the system? If you said $0 you would be correct.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The ideas they are considering are linked in this article (there's a PDF list): https://ccf.georgetown.edu/2025/01/20/house-budget-committee-circulates-new-detailed-list-of-budget-reconciliation-options-including-draconian-medicaid-cuts-within-house-republican-caucus/

There needs to be Social Security reform of some kind and the potential changes get more and more painful the longer you wait. That's not a Trump-specific issue at all. The money is not being stolen. https://www.ssa.gov/OACT/solvency/


Raise the cap and that will make it solvent. Stop forcing people in demanding manual labor jobs to work longer and longer, if they are able to manage to find a job at their age.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The ideas they are considering are linked in this article (there's a PDF list): https://ccf.georgetown.edu/2025/01/20/house-budget-committee-circulates-new-detailed-list-of-budget-reconciliation-options-including-draconian-medicaid-cuts-within-house-republican-caucus/

There needs to be Social Security reform of some kind and the potential changes get more and more painful the longer you wait. That's not a Trump-specific issue at all. The money is not being stolen. https://www.ssa.gov/OACT/solvency/


Raise the cap and that will make it solvent. Stop forcing people in demanding manual labor jobs to work longer and longer, if they are able to manage to find a job at their age.


Raising the cap alone will not make it solvent. Look at E2.1 in the link below. It addresses 73% of the issue, assuming no credit to benefits, and that's doing it immediately for 2025, which is surely not on the table at this point. So it will be even less helpful if done in the future.

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/solvency/provisions/payrolltax_summary.html

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:They definitely going to crush medicaid-- they need $5 trillion to pay for their tax cuts for the wealthy and while they won't find all of that they need to find enough to keep the bond markets happy or they will see crazy high interest rates, like the UK when they had Liz Truss trying to do supply side economics.

Probably they will try to get a trillion out of Medicaid and another $500 billion out of medicare, making it less and less useful to anyone.



Do people think they will just try to roll back expansion Medicaid? I don't think they can touch Medicaid for individuals on SSI/SSDI/elderly. Not sure about children's coverage


I mean, eliminating birthright citizenship is also unconstitutional but here we are.


So Barron is illegal now?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:They definitely going to crush medicaid-- they need $5 trillion to pay for their tax cuts for the wealthy and while they won't find all of that they need to find enough to keep the bond markets happy or they will see crazy high interest rates, like the UK when they had Liz Truss trying to do supply side economics.

Probably they will try to get a trillion out of Medicaid and another $500 billion out of medicare, making it less and less useful to anyone.



Do people think they will just try to roll back expansion Medicaid? I don't think they can touch Medicaid for individuals on SSI/SSDI/elderly. Not sure about children's coverage


I mean, eliminating birthright citizenship is also unconstitutional but here we are.


So Barron is illegal now?


Where was Donald Trump Sr born?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:As a millennial I'd like to make ss optional so I can stop paying and cash out


That’s not how SS works. Your taxes pay for current retirees and younger generations pay for you.

How much did the first recipients pay into the system? If you said $0 you would be correct.


Scam program needs to end
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a millennial I'd like to make ss optional so I can stop paying and cash out


That’s not how SS works. Your taxes pay for current retirees and younger generations pay for you.

How much did the first recipients pay into the system? If you said $0 you would be correct.


Scam program needs to end


Every 1st world country has a system, most more generous than the US.

80% of deep red counties that voted for Trump derive most of their income from government transfers. So, I guess if Trump wants to destroy his voters…that’s the way to do it.
Anonymous
Trump's nominee for the OMB (Office of Management and Budget) is Russel Vought, a co-author of Project 2025. (This is curious since Trump had claimed he knew nothing about Project 2025, yet he apparently knows one of the architects of it well enough to nominate him.) Vought recently stated: “I think we need to go after the mandatory programs that Sen. Cornyn mentioned that are keeping people out of the workforce because they have become not just a social safety net, but they have become a benefit hammock."

That would include Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

Theoretically, Congress would have to cooperate. And they well might. But if you believe the checks and balances are broken, then you should understand a rug pull is possible at any time.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:As a millennial I'd like to make ss optional so I can stop paying and cash out


You've already used the benefits of SS, so you can't cash out. SS is covering you now in case you become disabled or if you have a disabled child. As a millennial you should know that.


Lol no thanks didn't need it I have my own insurance


Lol great you didn't need it, but you still are covered and so you used it as a safety net. You have car insurance and if you don't get in an accident you still used it as a safety net. See?
Anonymous
Tax the Uber rich more. That would be fair.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I'm near retirement. Cut my SS so I don't get as much as I put in to give Bezos a tax cut and I'm out in the streets with a baseball bat. To the Republicans who pull this crap, FU. Maybe the American people will finally wake up, though I doubt it.


No one cares about your baseball bat. We already had Rodney King Occupy Wall St and Georgie Floyd.

The current leader of the US government has been wearing t-shirt mocking Occupy Wall St for years.


That’s no excuse. I was angry about the George Floyd riots, but I didn’t vote for Trump. You have to be an idiot to vote for Trump.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Sadly the benefits of social security aren't worth it for most of us. You get $1-4K a year but how much did you pay in over your lifetime to get 10-20 years of benefits. For medicare, you pay premiums all your life from your payroll taxes to when you actually take it. Not worth it.


If you become disabled or widowed early or have a child with a disability, you'll see the value.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Tax the Uber rich more. That would be fair.


This. Tax the billionaires!
Anonymous
I am preparing to take care of my elderly father myself in several years. No nursing home for Medicaid patients. He may also be kicked off Medicaid as a permanent resident. Luckily ophthalmology is the only care he truly needs rn.
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