SEC CBA - how long?

[Anonymous]

In meantime, branch chiefs will
Be applying for 14 positions. Are 16s the loophole that gets paid well
But no return to office ?

[Anonymous]

Don’t get too excited. We don’t know yet if they will order BU back in and give the finger to the CBA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In meantime, branch chiefs will
Be applying for 14 positions. Are 16s the loophole that gets paid well
But no return to office ?

I don't know how that works with a hiring freeze if you can just go back like that unless there is an open position. It's possible their 17 AD will block them due to business needs since no one is going to want to replace them.

At least in my division 16s are pretty rare and are usually team leads so no RTO but hard positions to get.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel terrible for branch chiefs having to go into work to sit in an empty building.

That is if NTEU continues to exist. I think that they will disban the union nation-wide. I think that they want everyone back or many to retire/resign.

[Anonymous]

the trolls are out in force tonight

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the trolls are out in force tonight

+1.

Let’s stop doom scrolling and appreciate the great news we got today. Management came to their senses and determined that telework is a protected right under our CBA and furthers our mission. What happens in 3 years when the CBA is up? Who know. But for tonight and the next two or three years, we can maintain our telework rights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It was signed in 2023. Period of 3 years. Then the fourth year BOTH parties have to agree to re open (union won’t reopen since they already owned them in the current negotiation.)

So this means it will be 2027 until the SEC can even attempt to change telework. Pay your union dues! We have the union to thank for our ability to telework until 2027 8 times per pay period.

Wait so do you think this is a done deal? Would love for you to be right but IDK seems too easy that no one will contest the terms of the CBA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was signed in 2023. Period of 3 years. Then the fourth year BOTH parties have to agree to re open (union won’t reopen since they already owned them in the current negotiation.)

So this means it will be 2027 until the SEC can even attempt to change telework. Pay your union dues! We have the union to thank for our ability to telework until 2027 8 times per pay period.

Wait so do you think this is a done deal? Would love for you to be right but IDK seems too easy that no one will contest the terms of the CBA.

We won’t know until we know. My guess is SEC won’t be a first mover to quash the CBA. But it is clearly showing it will follow these orders without question. Trump doesn’t care if people quit. And I assume SEC leadership doesn’t care either — until they can’t get their rulemaking done because no one will work more than 40 hours per week. I’ve been on many rulemakings that took years. And that’s when we were working 60+ hours per week.

[Anonymous]

This thread is hilarious with everyone trying to predict 3 years out. Well, here’s my prediction:

They’re not going to allow HQ to sit 2/3 empty till fall 2027. Nor is it tenable for supervisors to work in office 80 hrs per PP while their subordinates waltz in 2 days a PP. Something will have to change. They’ll either loosen up on the telework policy for NBU, try to dissolve the CBA, etc.

This country has the attention span of a mouse. “Stickin it to the feds” is the Current Thing, but in a few months, we will have moved on to something else — a new “beast” to slay, a different emergency to obsess over. And people will forget about how many days feds telework. It’s a dumb, temporary media obsession. (When’s the last time anyone’s heard of Covid, which was sooooo important a couple years ago?)

[Anonymous]

So managers now have to RTO AND just got their extra TSP match cancelled to boot (a significant pay cut)? Expect an exodus. Who will take their place?

Seriously, when a manager retires/leaves, which BU staff will apply to take the position?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So managers now have to RTO AND just got their extra TSP match cancelled to boot (a significant pay cut)? Expect an exodus. Who will take their place?

Seriously, when a manager retires/leaves, which BU staff will apply to take the position?

People who can will retire. But people have to find jobs and that takes time. And with a lot of people looking at the same time it will take even longer. It will be a steady trickle out. Acting Chair and then Chair won’t even notice or care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is hilarious with everyone trying to predict 3 years out. Well, here’s my prediction:

They’re not going to allow HQ to sit 2/3 empty till fall 2027. Nor is it tenable for supervisors to work in office 80 hrs per PP while their subordinates waltz in 2 days a PP. Something will have to change. They’ll either loosen up on the telework policy for NBU, try to dissolve the CBA, etc.

This country has the attention span of a mouse. “Stickin it to the feds” is the Current Thing, but in a few months, we will have moved on to something else — a new “beast” to slay, a different emergency to obsess over. And people will forget about how many days feds telework. It’s a dumb, temporary media obsession. (When’s the last time anyone’s heard of Covid, which was sooooo important a couple years ago?)

If they were going to make us come in, they would have done so tonight in the email. They can’t in a few weeks or months decide our CBA is not valid. Their email today makes it clear that telework is a right until at least 2027. If they were going to argue the language is vague in the CBA, they would have ripped the bandaid off and done so. Sorry to the haters, and sorry to management stuck working every day in an office, but SEC employees will be working from home for the next few years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So managers now have to RTO AND just got their extra TSP match cancelled to boot (a significant pay cut)? Expect an exodus. Who will take their place?

Seriously, when a manager retires/leaves, which BU staff will apply to take the position?

People who can will retire. But people have to find jobs and that takes time. And with a lot of people looking at the same time it will take even longer. It will be a steady trickle out. Acting Chair and then Chair won’t even notice or care.

I know my manager is thinking about stepping down to a 14 spot. I dont know if that is allowed now with the hiring freeze or if their management will let them because who would want to take their place? I don't know if this feeling is widespread but I could see others feeling this way.

Anyways, it may not be people leaving but rather people stepping down that we need to worry about and that could happen quickly.

[Anonymous]

The notice calling managers backs states that it is “interim” guidance.

[Anonymous]

My brother works at office of comptroller of currency and they will be back full time.

So some financial regulators like SEC will get years of working from home due to this agreement. Unfortunately, other financial regulators will be back working.