Why do some kids behave horribly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a special ed teacher and here's one example. My client is in 8th grade and has had trouble since he started school. My client asked for help for years, but the schools shrugged her off. Finally we got him evaluated and he has severe dyslexia -- in 8th grade, reading at a 1st grade level. But because that was never recognized or supported, he developed all sorts of strategies to avoid reading -- acting out, disrupting the class, leaving class, etc. No, it's not great, but can you blame him?

Yes I can blame him and his parent for the behavior. Even if you can’t read or don’t want to read, you can sit in the chair not disturbing class. There is a big difference between not having the emotional or hormonal regulation to be able to control behavior vs choosing not to

[Anonymous]

We aren’t kick a kid out of class for “bad behavior” when their uncle was molesting them when they were a toddler.

[Anonymous]

Bad parents. Bad teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They’re parented by millennials.

Who were raised by boomers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a special ed teacher and here's one example. My client is in 8th grade and has had trouble since he started school. My client asked for help for years, but the schools shrugged her off. Finally we got him evaluated and he has severe dyslexia -- in 8th grade, reading at a 1st grade level. But because that was never recognized or supported, he developed all sorts of strategies to avoid reading -- acting out, disrupting the class, leaving class, etc. No, it's not great, but can you blame him?

Yes I can blame him and his parent for the behavior. Even if you can’t read or don’t want to read, you can sit in the chair not disturbing class. There is a big difference between not having the emotional or hormonal regulation to be able to control behavior vs choosing not to

Blame him all you want but there is a reason there are insanely high rates of dyslexia in prison populations and that has massive social and economic costs so maybe schools should actually support kids with dyslexia instead of just letting them flounder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The behavior issues really ramped up when the Education department issued the “dear colleagues” letter during the Obama era. It dated that schools could be sued for differences in suspensions by race. Schools responded by getting rid of suspension entirely. Suspension was just treated as a holiday by kids since parents often refuse to hold their kids accountable. Technology use meant kids didn’t feel they were missing anything (socially/entertainment/assignment) by being absent anyways.

So now kids have very little consequences. 7% of boys are thought to be narcissists (girls 3-4%). Trauma and other issues creates a lot psychos and kids who don’t trust adults or unwilling to follow rules from adults. The guardrails that could contain these kids are now gone. Overall it has meant that being in a classroom is often miserable for students and teachers. Kids are mostly checked out and doing the bare Minimum in most schools. Teachers have trouble engaging kids addicted to screens or who can’t handle labs, independent thinking, or working socially with others.

Truly sad to see how things have gone downhill in the last 15 years. The smart kids with parent support are doing better than ever, but everyone else seems to really be unmotivated.

-A teacher.

I don't want to doubt your experience as a teacher, and I agree with what you say here, but I question this statistic. Can you cite from where you found this number? "Thought to be narcissists" is a very general term to use for elementary age kids.

Also, the word is anyway, not anyways.

[Anonymous]

How many threads do we need on this?

[Anonymous]

The kids get positive feedback when they go to the admin office. This is called classical conditioning. When they do bad things, go somewhere to get out of workand eat candy, no punishment; it is training them to do the bad behavior again. Duh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The behavior issues really ramped up when the Education department issued the “dear colleagues” letter during the Obama era. It dated that schools could be sued for differences in suspensions by race. Schools responded by getting rid of suspension entirely. Suspension was just treated as a holiday by kids since parents often refuse to hold their kids accountable. Technology use meant kids didn’t feel they were missing anything (socially/entertainment/assignment) by being absent anyways.

So now kids have very little consequences. 7% of boys are thought to be narcissists (girls 3-4%). Trauma and other issues creates a lot psychos and kids who don’t trust adults or unwilling to follow rules from adults. The guardrails that could contain these kids are now gone. Overall it has meant that being in a classroom is often miserable for students and teachers. Kids are mostly checked out and doing the bare Minimum in most schools. Teachers have trouble engaging kids addicted to screens or who can’t handle labs, independent thinking, or working socially with others.

Truly sad to see how things have gone downhill in the last 15 years. The smart kids with parent support are doing better than ever, but everyone else seems to really be unmotivated.

-A teacher.

I don't want to doubt your experience as a teacher, and I agree with what you say here, but I question this statistic. Can you cite from where you found this number? "Thought to be narcissists" is a very general term to use for elementary age kids.

Also, the word is anyway, not anyways.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/9742-narcissistic-personality-disorder


I didn’t even get in other mood disorders, oppositional defiance and conduct disorders that teachers deal with now with little support. Unfortunately, “building a relationship” with a lot of these types amounts to manipulating their needs by giving undeserved praise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: and what happened to repercussions and accountability? 20 years ago when I was in school, kids were held liable for their actions in school / on buses (suspended, expelled, etc). Is the new age just to be complacent to terrible behavior from teens who then turn into adults that commit crime ??

Every child must now be “included.” No matter what.